Canonisations? What Canonisations?

canonisation popesThe “Canonisations” of Popes John XXIII and John Paul II took place in Rome, today,  27th April, 2014.  Here’s an extract from one newspaper report…

“We declare and define Blessed John XXIII and John Paul II to be saints and we enrol them among the saints, decreeing that they are to be venerated as such by the whole church” said Francis in the official proclamation at about 10.15 am.

Later, in his homily, the Argentinian pontiff paid tribute to “two men of courage” who he said had “co-operated with the Holy Spirit in renewing and updating the church”. “They were priests, bishops and popes of the 20th century. They lived through the tragic events of that century, but they were not overwhelmed by them,” he said. Source 


Since popes have no authority to “renew and update” the Church, but must defend, guard, protect and proclaim it to the world, and since these popes, between them have all but closed down Catholicism in our times, preferring, instead, to create an ecumenical and inter-religious “Church”, these “canonisations” are problematic, to say the least.  Having informed ourselves of all the relevant issues, and having considered the matter from every angle, the Catholic Truth Team is agreed that no conscientious Catholic could possibly recognise these “canonisations.”  We urge our readers to pray for the souls of these two pontiffs in the traditional way, presuming that they enjoy the great grace of salvation but may still be in Purgatory, in need of our prayers.  Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us…

A Tale of Two Canonisations: safety of the infallibity in doubt – SSPX…

A Tale of Two (Problematic) Canonisations: the doubts - SSPX

On September 3, 2013, at the consistory held in Rome, the Pope announced that François would proceed to canonization of Pope John XXIII (1958-1963) and John Paul II (1978-2005) in a single ceremony on 27 April 2014. From the beatification of Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli, September 3, 2000, and Karol Wojtyla, the 1 st May 2011, the Society of Saint Pius X issued a very serious reservations…


“Three serious reasons to justify the Catholic faithful to doubt the validity of the new beatification and canonization. First, the reforms that followed the Council led to some shortcomings in the procedure and secondly, they introduce a new collégialiste intention, two consequences that are inconsistent with the safety of the infallibility of beatification and canonization. Third, the judgment takes place in the trial involves a design for the less ambiguous and therefore dubious holiness and heroic virtue. In the context of the post-conciliar reforms from the Pope and the bishops proposed to the veneration of the faithful genuine Catholic saints canonized but after a weak and questionable procedure. Thus the heroic virtues of Padre Pio, canonized since Vatican II, no doubt, even though we can waver before the new style of trial that led to proclaim his virtues. On the other hand, the same procedure makes possible canonization once unthinkable, where the title is awarded to the holiness of the faithful departed whose reputation remains controversial and in which the heroic virtue does not shine with a brilliance badge. Is it sure that the intention of the popes who have completed the canonization of a new kind of heroic virtue is that it was for their predecessors, until Vatican II? This new situation is explained by the confusion introduced by the post-conciliar reforms. We can not dissipate unless they attack the root and to consider the merits of these reforms. ”  (emphasis added)  Read more 

The first part of this discussion took place here

A Tale of Two Canonisations: Church in future will question their validity – SSPX

A Tale of Two Canonisations: Church in future will question their validity - SSPX

Nine years after his death, after an exceptionally rapid process, John Paul II will be canonized on April 27, 2014, together with John XXIII, who will have the benefit of a dispensation from a miracle so as to make possible a joint canonization.

Why this expedited procedure and this decision to unite the two popes in one and the same ceremony? Because, as was explained on the airwaves of Vatican Radio by Cardinal Paul Poupard, former President of the Pontifical Council for Culture, the Second Vatican Council should be regarded as a compass and its directions must be followed, in fidelity to the inspiration of its instigator, John XXIII, and along the lines of the application thereof which John Paul II constantly made, throughout his pontificate.

Although he was never able to obtain the trial that he demanded, Abp. Marcel Lefebvre was declared excommunicated latae sententiae for having consecrated four bishops, but above all for having ceaselessly denounced the rupture that the Council introduced into the Church’s bi-millennial Tradition, with its religious liberty, ecumenism, collegiality and the reformed liturgy.

Someday the Church, disowning the unheard-of procedures that are currently followed, will determine the validity of this “canonization” and of this “excommunication”.
Fr. ALain Lorans

In the next issue of DICI, to be published on October 18: a study about the doubts concerning the canonization of John XXIII and John Paul II. END.

(Click on photo of Archbishop Lefebvre, Founder of the Society of St Pius X, for source)


Well – is the SSPX correct? Will the Church in the future question the validity of these canonisations, due to changes in the procedures? Has sufficient time be allowed for investigation into the lives and writings of these two pontiffs? Has the investigation been sufficiently detailed, in depth, or has the whole thing been too rushed?

We will discuss the October 18th edition of Dici, where the SSPX doubts about these canonisations will be published, but, in the meantime, tell us your thoughts about the current edition of Dici. Is the SSPX right about this – or not?  WILL the Church in the future re-examine these canonisations and possibly invalidate them due to the “unheard of procedures” introduced to achieve them?