Archbishop-Elect Dermot Farrell of Dublin – The New Judas On The Block… 

From The Catholic Thing – Some Troubles in Dublin by Fr Gerald E. Murray

               Archbishop-Elect of Dublin,               Dermot Farrell

The Archbishop-Elect of Dublin, Dermot Farrell, gave an interview to the Irish Times soon after his appointment had been announced by the Holy See. (Click here for a transcript of the interview.)

The new archbishop declares himself in favour of women deacons and married priests. He does not find in the Scriptures an argument against the ordination of women to the priesthood. He calls the teaching of the Catechism of the Catholic Church on homosexuality merely technical. He also says he has no problem with the private blessing of rings for divorced and remarrying couples and for homosexual couples (though he finds public blessings problematic because people often misconstrue them as actual marriages).

Amid so many other troubles, the Irish Church appears to be headed for more rocky days.

Farrell’s treatment of Church teaching and practice regarding homosexuality, for example, is dismissive: “It’s a technical description. People misconstrue that then because it is technical theological language.” He considers amending this technical language, because “I think Pope Francis has discussed that (removal). It came up at the last Synod.”

Really?  Farrell is referring to this teaching of the Catechism: “Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that ‘homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.’ They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.” (CCC 2357)

In common parlance, calling language in a document “technical” can mean that it is unintelligible or is commonly misunderstood by the uninitiated, and is there to serve some arcane or legalistic purpose. Its removal is desirable but may be difficult to do if sticklers, purists, or legalists object. Better just to ignore it and treat it as a dead letter, as in “Technically speaking that is true, but. . .”

To describe the clear, unchanging, and unchangeable teaching of the Church on the inherent immorality of homosexual acts as technical language that could, and even should, be dispensed with is plainly a rejection of that teaching.

The rejection of homosexual activity, and the homosexual lifestyle, by faithful Catholics, however,  is not a misconstruing of “technical” language found in the Catechism. Those who want the Church to embrace and bless the homosexual lifestyle object to the language of the Catechism not because it is misconstrued by clueless people who think it means that no one should engage in homosexual acts because, being intrinsically disordered, they are immoral. Rather, they object because the language is easily and correctly understood to mean just that. The problem for them is not the allegedly confusing words used, but rather the clear meaning of those words.

Archbishop Farrell, in response to a question about blessing rings for divorced and remarried couples and for same-sex couples, says:

The difficulty with blessings is that they are very often misconstrued as marriage. Priests have given these blessings in the past. I remember one colleague of mine. I had said to him – he used to have this ceremony of the blessing of rings – I said to him I don’t have a difficulty with blessing rings if you’re doing that here in the house but if you go out into the public domain, in a church, and bless rings as you see it. . .they turned up with 200 people and they saw it as a marriage. Sometimes people use that phraseology. . .you’re into confusion there. It can be misconstrued as “yes, the priest married us.” Blessings are always going to be misconstrued and that’s where the difficulty arises because once you start blessing things like that people are going to construe that as a marriage. We can’t have that sort of situation in the Church because it creates all sorts of problems in terms of our own teaching and these teachings of the church have been constant.

Leaving aside the question of blessing the rings of divorced and remarried couples, what exactly are we to understand is the meaning of blessing the wedding rings of same-sex couples, whether in private or in public? Is it a misconstrual to consider that the priest who does such a blessing approves of the relationship that the homosexual couple has entered into (which is a counterfeit, pseudo-marriage), and asks God’s favor and approval upon that relationship as symbolized by the rings?

The Modern Catholic Dictionary defines a blessing thus: “In liturgical language a blessing is a ritual ceremony by which an authorized cleric in major orders sanctifies persons or things to divine service, or invokes divine favor on what he blesses.” The dictionary’s entry on rings states: “Conferring the ring is an integral part of the marriage ceremony to signify the mutual love of husband and wife, and wearing the ring symbolizes their pledge of marital fidelity.”

The main problem with blessing wedding rings of a same-sex couple is not that people will become confused and think that the priest was actually  marrying them. No, the main problem is that a priest who does such an unholy act is giving the impression that God will favour what He has condemned. Same-sex “marriages” are not marriages in any way, shape, or form. It’s a gravely sinful relationship in which two men or two women pledge to sodomize each other. No blessing should ever be invoked by a priest upon this unnatural relationship nor upon the pirated symbols of the holy estate of marriage.

Archbishop Farrell says: “I don’t have a difficulty with blessing rings.” If that’s true, what he does have is a more fundamental difficulty: God has warned shepherds who mislead their flocks into paths of sin and error that they will be held accountable. Let us pray that the new Archbishop of Dublin will forswear his comments and reaffirm the Church’s actual teaching and practice.  Click here to read at source

Comment:

There’s really nothing left for me to say – except pray for poor Ireland.  As if it’s not due a break.  From my trip to Dublin at the time of the abortion referendum I have one memory which will be forever fixed in my mind and it is this:  handing out our leaflets and engaging with the few members of the public who didn’t tell us to blankety blank off, I met one woman who expressed herself heart-broken about the state of the Church in Ireland, that it had come to this – a referendum on murdering the unborn. She told me that she had daughters who were going to vote in favour of legalising abortion, and her tears fell. My heart went out to her. Catholics have been very badly served by the clergy in Ireland.  And after the abortion and then the same-sex “marriage” votes, the Pope is still not satisfied; the people of Ireland need yet another bad bishop – and one who is not afraid to publicly display his fake Catholicism.

As I intimated at the beginning of this short comment – there’s really nothing left for me to say.  Over to you… 

42 responses

  1. Here’s some technical language for you, Archbishop-Elect:

    You’re an apostate, a liar, a sophist, a Judas, and an enemy of God.

    And speaking of “Archbishop Elect,” did you steal your election and create your own make-believe office, like Joke Biden?

  2. To which I’ll add:

    “…the Irish Church appears to be headed for more rocky days.”

    No, the Irish Church appears to be headed for outright extinction.

  3. RCAVictor

    I agree with you entirely. This man is a servant of Lucifer, an apostate in cope and mitre whose appointment surely tells us all we need to know, as if we didn’t already, about the Pope who elevated him to his new office. Unbelieveable evil!

    • Athanasius,

      Goodness only knows who else was on the list – I assume it’s still the same system, that three names are put to the papal nuncio, who makes a recommendation to Rome. Just imagine how bad the other two must have been! If there’d been an even more anti-Catholic candidate, he’d have been appointed. Chilling, really, when you think about it…

  4. I fully agree with all the above comments. Throughout my quite long life I have watched Catholic Ireland sink lower and lower into the depths of apostacy. St. Patrick must surely have run out of tears by now.

    • John,

      St Patrick may have run out of tears, but Ireland hasn’t run out of snakes after all – there’s no shortage: he did try to drive them out, but … well…

  5. Well, here’s the Archbishop-Elect speaking as Bishop of the Whatdyemacallit Diocese where he currently leads the people astray. In the clip below, he talks about the importance of fasting and prayer to gain clarify of Christian vision, ultimately so that we can help the poor and the less well off in our society. Goodness, my MSP says the same thing all the time, as does my MP, come to think of it… This man – look at him, he’s no spring chicken – hasn’t got the proverbial clue about what it means to be a Christian let alone a bishop… God help him. I sincerely hope he doesn’t join the growing list of bishops who are being called to meet their Maker – we had two Scots bishops die last week, a day apart.

    • Editor,

      Gee whiz, here I thought the purpose of prayer and fasting was to mortify ourselves and enkindle in ourselves a greater love of God…silly me.

      I couldn’t help but notice the bare room from which he spoke: not a single indicator of a Catholic living there. Maybe he was just passing through.

      Lent 2019: ah yes, just before the Great Reset Virus of Doom fell upon us.

      • RCA Victor,

        Yes, the whole point of prayer and fasting is, certainly, to give us clearer vision but that vision is supposed to be directed at God and how to live our lives in conformity to God’s will – His LAW being somewhat taken for granted.

        When I look at modernists / secularists / pagans like this bishop who think they can follow Christ while ignoring His own words (e.g. “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments) I ask myself “what if an applicant for the Police Force decided that his job is to introduce criminals to social workers, and too bad about all the burglaries and murders.”

        It’s not a great analogy, I know, but look at the time and I’ve had to deal with a broken down car among other hazards today – and yes, I really DO talk to myself. I’m the only one left, still talking to me 😀

      • Ireland went from the most Catholic nation in the world to the most anti-Catholic, degenerate place on Earth not because of globalists, lefties, the media, Soros or anything like that. Like any other countries, it has been the evil men dressed up as bishops the ones who have destroyed the faith of that people, and Farrell is the latest example. The Church in Ireland as an institution today has nothing to do with the faith. The dozens of thousands of babies murdered through abortion have only one responsible: the criminals who destroyed the faith of that people. They, the psycopaths dressed up as bishops and priests un Ireland are nothing but a force for evil. They should be fight to dead. They are the reason of Ireland’s miseries.

  6. I have just been reading about the Irish state television company, RTE (pronounced
    or tee-hee) during their countdown to the New Year programme.

    It seems that in their twisted attempts to raise a laugh they portrayed God as a rapist. He allegedly forced Himself on a foreign girl and made her pregnant. Just how low is this, now depraved, station willing to descend to get a childish laugh from its equally childish audience?

    What has become of this country? I am beginning to wonder if it was ever Christian, or was it all a sham?

    According to the report, around 300 decent Catholics gathered to protest and say the rosary but were thwarted by the police, one of whom kept telling them there was no God. That poor soul will be in for a shock one day. He should get an initial shock
    by receiving his P45 in a not too distant post.

    True to form, the station made it out to the person who was listening in, probably while waiting for the coronavirus to go away, that there were only a handful of people
    protesting.

    Where was the above mentioned Archbishop and his cronies when all this was going on?

    I find it incredible that after all the abuse carried out in Ireland on young and not so young boys by their own IRISH BORN homosexuals (not the Catholic Church) there are people like this man who still not only condones homosexual acts but would even
    encourage it.

    • Frankier,

      I remember hearing about that blasphemy – utterly disgraceful. Well done those who held the public rosary in reparation.

      However, the bishops and priests have accepted so much anti-Catholic garbage from the media over there, that they are now too weak to fight back.

      When the child abuse scandals broke, instead of giving the impression that every priest was guilty of that dreadful crime, and apologising 24/7, they should have done what every other professional body would do in the same circumstances; express their shock and disgust that this has happened, but point out that it is wholly unjust to blame every priest or imagine that every priest is guilty by association.

      With every development – such as the appointment of this latest Judas – Ireland falls deeper and deeper into the mire. However, I do think Ireland was once a great Catholic nation. Cultural Marxism has prepared the entire western world for the coming of Communism and it’s arrived in Ireland as it has arrived everywhere else.

  7. A little light relief in the form of a true story which I heard from an Irish friend only yesterday (phone call)

    In the Irish Republic right now, the rule is that nobody should go more than 4/5 miles from their home. If the police (garda) catch anyone further afield, they give them the chance to turn back and that way they avoid being fined.

    Recently, the police discovered two young lads in Dublin who had travelled all the way from Limerick to Dublin, which is approximately 100 miles.

    Garda: Why have you come to Dublin?

    Lads: To buy fish and chips 😀

    They were slapped with a fixed penalty fine, no second chance for them!

    Hilarious!

  8. I would have thought fish and chips were considered an essential purchase.

    Especially when you are raving with hunger.

    • Frankier,

      The point being, that they could have bought fish and chips in Limerick – no need to travel 100 miles when the “law” says you can’t go further than 5 miles from your home. I bet they’re advising family and friends to stick to the rules now 😀 Speaking of good advice…

    • The reason we have decided to use is visiting a grave. I don’t know how that one got under the radar but it is in the government guidelines as an acceptable reason for travel outside the 5km limit. I doubt that the youngsters from Limerick would have been convincing but we 60 year olds can’t be stopped going to Mass (thanks to the SSPX).

      • New Templar,

        But – presumably – you would only be allowed to attend the cemetery? And I wouldn’t imagine there’d be too many fish & chip shops nearby – well, there isn’t any where I’m to be buried… Pity, because I LOVE fish & chips… 😀

  9. Scot Hamish Fraser’s famous dossier “Scandal of Maynooth” was written nearly half a century ago detailing the episcopal shortcomings in Erin. The shepherds had clearly turned wolf back then.
    He begins with a Burkean quote:

    “For the triumph of evil all that is necessary is that good people do nothing.” – Edmund Burke

    The errors that have created a wholly lupine pack of prelates are deep in Ireland. Perhaps they don’t originate from Bergolio in Rome as we would like to think but go deeper with the political meddling since Penal laws were scrapped? That Maynooth was funded and established by British arch freemason Lord Palmerston is a well known fact. http://sources.nli.ie/Record/MS_UR_001005

    Archbishop Paul Cullen’s (1803-1878) 19th century shaped a Church fit to fight home grown anti Catholic Nationalism that sought to write the Church out of Ireland’s history – seen in the shape of freemason Wolfe Tone and veterans of Blues from the Vendee/. This has never fully been resolved. The remnants of Cullenite hierarchy has been gone for half a century and the wolves came back as well as the snakes.

    The Burkean had a good piece lately: https://www.theburkean.ie/articles/2020/07/26/the-saviour-of-irish-catholicism

    I think history shows Archbishop Cullen was Christ’s Church’s bulwark against these wolves: creating a robust culture for the people’s faith to flourish. He encouraged prayerful participation in the Mass through prayer books like Irish Messenger and the Sacred Heart Missal.

    Our Lady at Knock is silent. But the Lamb is on the Altar of God. Saint Joseph has the flank and Saint John has the Book of Revelations open and wears a bishops mitre. Who needs wolves like these?

    • Wunebald,

      Many thanks for your very interesting and informative comment – I’ve had a quick look at the links which I’ll read properly later, but so far I’ve worked it out that Archbishop-Elect Dermot Farrell is no Archbishop Cullen!

  10. Nothing Catholic has come out of Maynooth ( seminary) in 40 years – oh that’s right this “archbishop” “taught” there.
    Sacred Heart of Jesus have mercy on Ireland.

    • Archbishop-Elect Dermot Farrell is no Archbishop Cullen! No saint or scholar.

      A Maynooth man. The infamous Irish seminary where for 55 to 60 years modernist heresies were taught by men who preyed on, groomed and corrupted the seminarians with the pestilence of their sexual deviancy. Now these men want to celebrate their $ucce$$ and be applauded and kept by the world in the covid age.

      Nothing is impossible for God and there are a few good traditional priests in the last two decades who slipped through. A replacement hierarchy is waiting. They kept their head down, said the Rosary and were ordained only to witness and speak out as orthodox diocesan priests and celebrate the 1962 Holy Sacrifice of the Mass following Summorum Pontificum. They have being persecuted terribly. They are guarded by Our lady and Saint Joseph and Ireland’s continue to do amazing work bringing the sacraments to people under the very noses of An Garda Siochana (Police) at personal risk of fines and incarceration.

      The next generation of bishops pray will be please by God’s grace be very different. The whole lot should have been sacked as allegedly suggested by Benedict XVI. Has anyone noticed how a lot of prelates seem to be succumbing to the virus? At no point is God not in charge and have a plan. “Trust the plan!” – to steal and properly use a recent looney-tunes Americanism.

      Archbishop-Elect Dermot Farrell may have the mitre, the office, buildings and the bank accounts. He has nothing to say and has little to offer God or Ireland but RTE friendly soundbites and a heretical internet streaming service.

  11. Perhaps the Archbishop-Elect ought to read these Vatican documents:-

    “But we wish to make it clear that departure from the Church’s teaching, or silence about it, in an effort to provide pastoral care is neither caring nor pastoral. Only what is true can ultimately be pastoral. The neglect of the Church’s position prevents homosexual men and women from receiving the care they need and deserve.” http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19861001_homosexual-persons_en.html

    “In those situations where homosexual unions have been legally recognized or have been given the legal status and rights belonging to marriage, clear and emphatic opposition is a duty. One must refrain from any kind of formal cooperation in the enactment or application of such gravely unjust laws and, as far as possible, from material cooperation on the level of their application. In this area, everyone can exercise the right to conscientious objection.”
    http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20030731_homosexual-unions_en.html

    Unless he thinks them too ‘technical’

    • “Only what is true can ultimately be pastoral.” Very relevant and our pastoral teacher is Christ who instructs sinners to “go and sin no more and nowhere does he tell them to buy a couple of rings, throw a party and get a certificate.

      As Archbishop Elect is a product of Maynooth then he has truthfully walked among and so knows for real technically what “open to life” means and indeed does not mean. There lies the sin.

      If a repentant homosexual man like Joseph Sciambra can defend Christ’s Church teachings on this, with loving openness and charity unlike others who once were sinners, why can’t an archbishop elect by the grace of God?

      https://josephsciambra.com

      • Wunebald,

        I like that site for homosexuals trying to live according to the Faith but I didn’t like the answer to the question about how to identify – ie. “gay Catholic” etc. I think the answer is wrong. This is the answer:

        It is better, when asked, or when giving testimony, to describe yourself as Christian or a Catholic man who experiences (or experienced in the past) “same-sex attraction.” To self-identify as “gay,” no matter the intentions of your heart, is to publicly align oneself with a socially and historically charged word: in the past, “gay” simply meant happy or joyful; since the acquisition of the word by the modern homosexual movement, “gay” is identified with such things as “gay” sex, “gay” marriage, and “gay” porn. Therefore, to simply will that the word now have a different connotation does not make it so.

        But why is there any need to mention homosexuality at all? Married people don’t introduce themselves by saying “I’m a married Catholic” and single people don’t introduce themselves as saying “I’m a single, celibate Catholic”. You say you’re name and if necessary to mention your religion, you say your religion but it’s not (or didn’t used to be) normal to then speak about your personal life in that way.

        Apart from that, it’s heartening to see that support for homosexuals wanting to live as faithful to Christ.

  12. In Chile a few years ago there were aggressive protests when Francis foisted a corrupt bishop upon them. Not a peep our of Irish Catholics? Do they not recognize corruption when they see it? Have they been panic-demic’d into silent obedience? Or do they just not care, being too busy with their material and sensual pursuits?

    • That is a bit harsh. Have you read John Waters book “Give us Back the Bad Roads.”?

      Plenty of Irish Catholics are fighting. At great personal cost. Sacked, jailed hounded and the media censored and blocked them. Not a bishop supported these people. Priests are attacked physically in the streets and hounded for speaking out while bishops hide and fawn to the politicians, the media and the moneymen.

      Question – Given we all know the same globalist cabal of “philanthropist” and big tech thugs can engineer elections around the world and engineer corrupt colour revolutions, how legitimate do you think all these well planned Irish referendum results are?

      There is plenty of real evidence the elections were rigged and they even boast about it. Constitutional challenges were blocked in the courts. All these Referendums foisted upon them by foreign are illegal and the Constitution of Ireland was supposed to be unbreachable on the the right to life. But we live in lawless times.

      Recently English peadophile group PIE and Peter Tatchell boasted about being able to scrap all age limits for their predatory evil in Ireland but were reined in. This and Euthenasia are the next goals.

      Please support and pray for the faithful remnant souls in Ireland who still actually go to Mass.

      • Wunebald,

        No, never heard of that book. My comment about Irish Catholics was based on what I read here, so apparently there is lots more going on than meets the CT blog eye. My comment was also influenced by Editor’s narratives about her [shocking] experiences in Ireland, during the lead-up to the abortion referendum (I think), trying to help the Catholic cause. It sounded rather grim, to say the least.

        It would not surprise me in the least if the Irish referendums were rigged – did they use Dominion voting machines, as here in the USA? I vaguely remember Soros money being involved as well.

        My PP is Irish, and tells of a prophecy, though I know not which one, that the light of Faith, having all but gone out in Ireland, returns and flourishes stronger than ever. May those days soon return…

      • Wunebald,

        I don’t think you are being fair to RCA Victor, What he said is absolutely true. While there is certainly “a remnant” – as you say – still fighting for the Faith in Ireland as elsewhere, they are, for sure, “a remnant”.

        We have a regular column in our newsletter entitled When Irish Eyes Are NOT Smiling, where we feature reports about dissident priests and bishops not to mention your previous President, McAleese and politicians who are about as Catholic as the nearest Imam.

        Indeed, one report in recent years, was of a family funeral where the deceased had been an attendee at the SSPX church. Her family asked the PP for the use of the parish church, but to have the SSPX priest offer the Mass. He agreed. Then, presumably, took cold feet and thought he better check with his bishop. Banned! In the end, the family had to borrow chairs from a local hotel and have the Requiem Mass on the beach. In the end, the bishop’s action backfired because there were people attending the funeral who had never been present at a TLM before and they were – they said – “blown away” by it. And they didn’t mean because of the weather at the seaside.

        So, while there are definitely some lay people fighting for the Faith at this time of crisis (such as those who send me newsletter clippings and letters about the state of the Church in their part of Ireland), there can be no doubt that the ordained are largely apostate, as they are here in the UK.. Again, I remember quoting a remark from Christian Order in which the claim was made that Ireland had become the most secular nation in Europe. Personally, I’d say second only to the UK (indeed second only to Scotland) but, hey, who ever listens to me? 😀

        Your final plea for prayers is heart-warming and all of us here, who have Irish blood flowing through our veins are only too happy to do so.

  13. How depressingly typical of the novus ordo Church, to appoint such a man in response to decline and failure.

    Not someone who will take the bull by the horns, to put the Church back on a firm footing, no – that would be too sensible. Instead lets have more of the same rubbish we have had for decades, what a good idea!

    His first act, this interview, is to rubbish or apologise for the Church’s position in various areas. Yes, that will inspire confidence and fidelity, great.

    The only positive thing about the appointment is that, at 66, Farrell will have less than a decade in post to wreck havoc (less, God willing).

    The stupidity of prelates has long been recognised (Belloc wrote of it, around a century ago, before it got exponentially worse). Even still, it retains the power to shock. As in this case, with this buffoon suggesting the only problem with conducting Church services for homosexual couples is that someone might mistake their arrangements for a marriage.

    And how could anyone make such an error? Could it be down to non-existent catechesis, failure of clergy to champion Christian values and – indeed – that, thanks to idiot-clergy, they are holding a ceremony in Church, just as if it was a marriage?

    As with so many modern clergy, Farrell clearly brings nothing to the table except a burning desire to be liked.

    They would be as well just disbanding the Dublin Diocese immediately, rather than persist with this “death by a 1,000 cuts” approach. Save a lot of time and money, plus clergy could be transferred elsewhere, to places where there is a shortage of idiots.

    • Gabriel Syme,

      In fact, the only conclusion I can draw from this, and countless other appointments like it, is that decline and failure is precisely the plan. Carried out, of course, under such disguises as ecumenism, accompaniment, pastoral care, universal fraternity, environmentalism, etc.

  14. Management of decline has been the MO of all Irish bishops for some time. Catholics have not been catechised properly since the 1960s so it is hardly surprising that people have fallen away from the Faith. I find it astounding that there are any souls interested in the Catholic Faith at all.

    • New Templar,

      I’m wondering if even the bishops haven’t been catechised. Things are that bad, and this new appointment for Dublin just rubs salt in the wound. He’s terrible.

  15. Sister Lucia said this would happen back in 1957 to Fr Fuentes:-

    “Father, the devil is in the mood for engaging in a decisive battle against the Blessed Virgin. And the devil knows what it is that most offends God and which in a short space of time will gain for him the greatest number of souls. Thus the devil does everything to overcome souls consecrated to God, because in this way the devil will succeed in leaving the souls of the faithful abandoned by their leaders, thereby the more easily will he seize them.

    That which afflicts the Immaculate Heart of Mary and the Heart of Jesus is the fall of religious and priestly souls. The devil knows that religious and priests who fall away from their beautiful vocation drag numerous souls to hell… The devil wishes to take possession of consecrated souls. He tries to corrupt them in order to lull to sleep the souls of laypeople and thereby lead them to final impenitence. He employs all tricks, even going so far as to suggest the delay of entrance into religious life. Resulting from this is the sterility of the interior life, and among the laypeople, coldness (lack of enthusiasm) regarding the subject of renouncing pleasures and the total dedication of themselves to God.”

    And so we have it. Cardinals and bishops fail their priests, who in turn fail the laity, who largely fall away from the Faith.

  16. Very unfortunate. Ireland has fallen. Demonic forces led by the likes of Varadkar. These people are going nowhere and it’s hard to see any way back. Northern Ireland still seems to have some backbone left but what can they do when Westminster impose ‘progression’ on them re abortion. Foul.

    • Michaelangelo

      Agreed. I knew things would change when the DUP lost people in the last election, liberals taking their places. We know it’s only a matter of time until Northern Ireland is fully under Lucifer’s control.

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