Covid-19: Day of Reckoning Ahead & Green Agenda – UK Looking Ridiculous?

Comment: 

Once again, talkRadio covers the issues that are being totally ignored by the mainstream media, which is keen to push the panic Covid-19 lie, as well as the ridiculous “green” agenda,  designed to keep us all strictly under Government control and to make us all poorer.  If you disagree, feel free to say so…

Also, is the new Reform UK Party likely to win the “anti-lockdown” battle – or should Richard Tice stick with the Brexit Battle?  

84 responses

  1. That was a very good interview – they covered a lot of ground.

    I do believe there will be a day of reckoning, people will be brought to trial over this, removing our freedoms for absolutely no reason. It’s disgraceful.

    I am just amazed at the number of people who are not only wearing masks, but wearing fancy designed masks! What’s got into them? They have them matching their outfits, it’s crazy.

    Perhaps they realise that this is the way it’s going to be for a very long time. It says something when women are buying face masks to match their coats!

    As for the climate change agenda – I’m not buying into it at all. Mike Graham is right to say that none of us voted for any of this. It looks like Boris isn’t in charge at No. 10 now, it’s Carrie, because she is a “green” fanatic. Boris will see his huge majority disappear at the next chance we all have to vote.

    • Michaela,

      That’s an interesting point about the fancy masks – I hadn’t thought of that.

      I wonder how many of these mask-wearers would want to continue wearing them if they knew that irreversible brain damage could be the end result. I remember this article being posted on the blog a while back. It is very important, and I’ve told loads of people about it, but none of them seem interested.
      https://healthandmoneynews.wordpress.com/2020/10/09/brain-damage-from-masks-cannot-be-reversed/amp/

    • “It looks like Boris isn’t in charge at No. 10 now” He isn’t, but that does not exonerate him from all the evil that we now are drowning in, since he and his party along with the rest of the British establishment, threw us to the wolves in the first place.
      I follow UK Column who say that we have a “Government of Occupation”. A “government within a government.” Colossal power concentrated in the Cabinet Office civil servants and others about 14,000 of them , who are also driving the fusion of all parts in the Government apparatus. brainwashing and psy-op’ing of the public and the conditioning of police officers into brutal behaviour.
      And in the secret Joint EU-UK committee set up in terms of the Withdrawal Agreement? Then further up the pyramid the globalists and China?
      Intriguingly UK Column describe the string pullers in Cabinet Office as a “cult.” I was intrigued by this outlandish word since UK Column is a very factual down to earth website and doesnt go in for wild ideas; this term has connotations of people who have secret rituals! It’s more likely- I think -that they mean fanatical Marxists
      Whatever they are, God help us.

      • Mary,

        As you say, no excuses from Boris. He’s the PM.

        If there really is a sort of shadow government running things, then Boris needs to resign and say so.

        Donald Trump has called out “the swamp” – which is clearly deeper and wider than even he realised – and if he returns to the White House, he will, I believe continue his clearance, root and branch.

        So, unless Boris speaks out to identify the fact that he’s not in charge and/or sacks those in the shadows, then I’m not cutting him any slack.

        • RCA Victor. Thank you for the recommendation. I’ve just started dipping into this book, starting with last few chapters. I had never heard of the John Birch Society. Are they still active and do they think there is ANY hope left at all?

          • Mary,

            Yes, the JB Society is still very active, though they are Protestant-oriented, not Catholic. Here is their website: https://thenewamerican.com/

            I have not seen or heard any sign that they have surrendered to the NWO madness….or become despondent about it. In fact, they are very aggressive challengers of it.

    • Michaela,

      That’s amazing! Let me explain…

      Earlier today I said to some friends that I have only now realised that it is pointless trying to educate people who wear decorated masks. It is possible to have a reasonable conversation with people who express some scepticism about what is going on, even those wearing masks (often they have to wear them due to work regulations). However, after what amounted to a very sharp telling off from a lady (I use the term loosely) when I tried to alert her to the possible brain damage to come some time down the line from wearing a mask, I realised that the clue was in the type of mask. Hers was covered in colourful flowers and shapes. I’ve seen calmer patients in a padded cell. I kid you not.

      So, spot on – I am amazed that anyone (and men do this as well, not just women) would go to the trouble of finding or creating a personal mask whether to match an outfit or whatever. Crazy times! Below, an “outfit” in the Paisley pattern – might as well give some business to Scotland!

  2. This is what is now happening here in the UK, this is london – you have to go to RT to find out this kind of stuff; we are living in a police state. Our freedoms have been removed and we are accepting it. We will live to regret it IMHO. I sympathise with Mike Graham asking what can we do. It seems hopeless.

    • Nicky,

      That is what I find most terrifying – the open removal of our right to free speech and assembly. That was the idea behind the social distancing, the small numbers, it’s to get us used to that sort of way of living. It’s really frightening. Once we’re all subdued enough, they’ll take away platforms like this and we’ll have nowhere to turn for support and some words of hope. No wonder Fr Gruner said, referring to Our Lady of Fatima, “Only she can help us”. Things were bad enough then, when he said that – if he was here now, he’d be speaking out, for sure.

    • It gets worse all the time: in France they are proposing to fine people for photographing police brutalising the public. They will probably try to do that here too as there are now too many footages circulating of protesters slammed face down on the pavement then sat on by about 5 police thugs. Plus there is the License to Kill bill which will mean they suffer no repercussions if they do kill or maim someone.
      David Kurten has done a lot campaigning against the appalling sex “education ” being forced on very young kids. And exposing the Frankfurt school whose main obstacle was the Catholic Church.

  3. I think the way to understand the seemingly incomprehensible and irrational actions of governments, in response to what amounts to a flu, is to look at the fruits of government edicts: large numbers of elderly deaths, large numbers of small business owners thrown out of business, vast increases of numbers of people on unemployment assistance, the collapse of national economies, widespread mental health deterioration, drug abuse and alcoholism, vast numbers of people moving ever closer to total and unquestioning reliance on government handouts, government “information,” government “solutions,” and feckless submission to police enforcement, the instantaneous transformation of elected governments into dictatorships…..not to mention the closure of Catholic churches and the denial of the Sacraments by the numerous Judases in the hierarchy. I’m sure our bloggers could add quite a few more.

    These fruits are not accidental; they are not, ultimately, the result of clueless governments (and clergy) panicking before a “pandemic,” though the panic of some has proved quite useful. These fruits have been planned, just as the pandemic itself was planned. After all (following the depraved logic of the globalists), if you want to create a new model, first you have to destroy the old one. Chaos is the preliminary prerequisite for a new order, aka The Great Reset, and chaos is what we’ve got now. Abp. Vigano referred to this process in his June letter to President Trump: ” Solve et Coagula, as the Masonic adage teaches.”

    All fed by FEAR. I believe someone has already re-named the scam-demic as “COVID-1984.” Very accurate.

    We also know what the globalists’ proposed solution is, and that has been long-planned as well. We can only hope that through our prayers and fidelity to the Faith, the world’s population will rapidly develop a fiery case of Klaus-trophobia and return to the supernatural understanding of our pilgrimage on earth.

    That supernatural understanding will require a counter-revolution. The Heavenly weapon of choice against Lucifer is Our Lady, and the Heavenly weapon of choice against fear is FAITH. The chaotic fruits we are now reaping originate with our first parents, of course, but more recently with Martin Luther – who would be more accurately named “Martin Luthifer.” The counter-revolution of faith will be a sharp U-turn from the path the world has been following since that Protestant rebellion.

    • RCA Victor,

      “After all (following the depraved logic of the globalists), if you want to create a new model, first you have to destroy the old one.”

      That jumped out at me from your post – it’s absolutely true. The Great Reset really is beginning to make sense now. You’re right – it’s not about them taking advantage of the virus, they’ve planned this all along. Your comment reminded me of the video I’d seen (probably on this blog) showing the Event 201 conference where they were simulating what would happen in the event of a pandemic like this. Bill & Melinda Gates were involved, also the World Economic Forum and probably other “partners” – I couldn’t find the exact same video but this one gives extracts. You can see and hear the people concerned speaking about it. I think we’re being had, definitely.

      Watch for the bit about the internet – how they decide to have a shut-down of the internet to prevent false information getting out and to “quell panic”. I’ve noticed how we are hearing about “rises” and “spikes” in numbers and increasing “deaths” but we all know that there is no such thing as a purely Covid death – it’s always the patient dies from something else and may or may not have caught Covid on the way and that is put on the death certificate, but they don’t die from Covid.

      This is real evil we’re dealing with. Totalitarianism is actually here already, it’s just being brought in in a “softly softly” way.

      • Laura,

        Thank you for that reminder; when I rang in to the Nigel Farage show on talkRadio, he cut me off the minute I mentioned Agenda 201, clearly thinking it to be some kind of conspiracy theory. I can’t really complain because he’d given me quite a bit of air time to speak my mind (about lockdown) and I should have realised it was too much information to pack into the call, at that stage, but it reminds me of how amazing it is to think that Bill & Melinda Gates et al sat round a table in October 2019 to discuss how to “deal” with a pandemic, should there be one… Yeah right!

        And you are totally correct in that we are now living under totalitarianism – we’re just still – as you say – at the “softly, softly” stage.

    • RCA Victor,

      I admire your charity towards the clueless governments. In my considered view, what we are living through has nothing whatsoever to do with any virus. Not remotely. I know that you know that (and your post again makes clear) but I just wanted to say that again. Or, as Groucho Marx put it, “If I’ve told you this before, don’t stop me, I want to hear it again” 😀

      The people generating the fear, the politicians at the top of the tree, know that perfectly well, of course. My own belief is that they are being paid big bucks to implement these first stages in the introduction of the New World Order (totalitarian governance = Communism).

      As we’ve said many times on this blog, the virus is merely the tool being used to introduce totalitarianism across the world. And it’s arrived in the UK already. I think you lot in the USA are not quite there yet – thanks to Donald Trump. Of course, it’s because he has refused to go along with their “Great Reset” of the world, that they are desperate to get rid of him. Your loony left local politicians in the Democrat run cities are providing a bird’s eye view of what lies ahead if Trump is not returned to office. The White House will be moved to China…

      Incidentally, if you notice the rhetoric of the World Economic Forum in their “Great Reset” propaganda, it’s to bring about a better, more improved “capitalism” – clever or deceitful, however you choose to see it. The Great Reset is not at all about a new form of capitalism – it’s about Communism. Reading the propaganda, though, people will be reassured – who wouldn’t like a better form of capitalism? 😀

      Your final paragraph is absolutely on the button; faith is our weapon against the fear being used to exact our unquestioning obedience to the diktats of the State. And “Martin Luthifer” made me smile!

      • Editor,

        Being charitable towards governments was not my intent, actually (Help! I’ve fallen into charity and I can’t get up!), but I agree with everything else in your post.

        As for “stakeholder capitalism,” that is certainly a diabolically clever disguise for what the globalists’ real intent is. In fact, you could describe their real intent as driving a stake through the heart of capitalism.

        How’s this for lack of charity: the globalists are no better than blood-sucking vampires!

  4. To answer Editor’s question, do we agree with his comment : I agree entirely,
    I’m sceptical about the Reform Party though as Farage has let us down too often before.
    I hope Reform Party just endorses the anti Lockdown movements, but don’t take it over altogether.

    • Mary,

      By the time the Reform UK Party is put to the test in an election, the die will have been cast. We’ll either be into full-blown totalitarianism or we’ll be fine and we won’t need Tice & Farage (sounds like a comedy duo – say nothing…)

      Either way, as a friend of mine is wont to say “If my vote counted, they wouldn’t have given it to me.”

    • Mary

      I wrote to Nigel Farage months ago telling him that he had to take his eyes of the migrants crossing the Channel and focus his attention instead on the Covid-19 scam, which was basically a switch from Brussels-orchestrated totalitarianism in Europe to global Beijing-orchestrated totalitarianism.

      The Communists and Freemasons knew that with Trump and Brexit, not to mention the rise of populaist parties in many other countries, they were losing their grip, so they launched Covid-19 to regain and strengthen their grip. It was intended primarily to eradicate Trump and Brexit from the menu and leave the way clear for a completion of the New World Communist Order, “the Great Reset” or “New Normal”.

      Well Farage not only did not respond to anything I sent him, he has continued to behave as though this virus were indeed a great threat to mankind. That has really disappointed me because I thought of all people Nigel Farage would have seen through the scam and caught on to the geopolitics.

      His last video was encouraging but still not that all out realisation of the con that’s being played. He’s a decent man and a good leader when he’s on his game – the trouble is he’s not fully onto this game yet and so the response he has the power to muster up in people is sadly lacking. Still, I wish him well with his reform party and I will vote for it at the next election, asuming the party is registered by then and has reps in Scotland. But there’s also the Heritage Party as an alternative, a second option for patriots.

      • Athanasius; It’s great to have a talented spokesman like Farage. But my advice for all it’s worth is, be careful who you trust. I pay attention to what he does NOT say. Eg he has much to say about the “dinghy migrants” yet little or nothing about the UN Global Compact for Migration, signed by Teresa May and due to kick in when “Brexit” is “finalised.” This will have humungeous effects, far more than the dinghy arrivals.

        You mention Freemasons. I can’t get my head around Freemasonry at all, or how it affects world events. Until recently I took it with a pinch of salt, but I’m not so sure now.

        I regularly follow UK Column, which speaks of a “cult” in the Cabinet Office, which appears to be driving events (along with whoever in turn is pulling their strings). This is an odd word to use, and I wonder whether they are in fact referring to freemasons.

        • Mary

          It is historically true that the leaders and architects of Communism are also Freemasons. Both have the Catholic Church and Christian society as their primary target for overthrow. That’s not accidental, they are evil twins and that’s why Our Lady at Quito spoke of the demonic plots of Masonry in our time while Our Lady of Fatima indicated “the errors of Russia”, meaning both Communism and Freemasonry.

          Here’s an example from the 1920 Red Revolution in Munich, Germany:
          ‘…Kurt Eisner, the President of the Bavarian Councils Republic, was the instigator of the Bolshevist revolution in Munich. “Eleven little men made the revolution”, said Eisner in the intoxication of triumph to his colleague, the Minister Auer. It is no more than right to preserve the unforgettable memory of these little men, who were, in fact, Max Lowenberg, Doctor Kurt Rosenfeld, Gasper Wollheim, Max Rothschild, Carl Arnold, Kranold, Rosenhek, Birnbaum, Reis and Kaisser. These ten with Kurt Eisner van Israelowitsch led the Presidency of the Revolutionary Court of Germany. All eleven were Freemasons and belonged to the secret lodge which had its seat in Munich at No 51 Briennerstrasse…’ (Plot against the Church by Maurice Pinay, Page 41).

  5. This interview on talkRadio today cheered me up, no end. Presenter, Mike Graham chats to Neil Oliver – the only Scotsman speaking out against the lockdowns, restrictions etc north of the border.

  6. Howzabout this for totalitarian Health “Care”…

    A senior medical adviser has said for every day that coronavirus measures are relaxed over Christmas, five days of tighter measures will be required.

    Public Health England (PHE) director Dr Susan Hopkins initially told a Downing Street press briefing that two days of tougher measures would be required to make up for one day of relaxed restrictions.

    Following the briefing on Wednesday, PHE said Dr Hopkins had misspoken and scientists had actually suggested one day of greater freedom required five days of restrictions. [Emphasis added].
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/relaxed-covid-restrictions-christmas-five-days-tighter-measures-b73392.html

    It’s truly mind-boggling folks that this is the way those in authority over us, albeit unelected “authority”, are taking it for granted that they can give and take away our freedoms. They can give us permission (or not) to celebrate Christmas. It’s an outrage. Nobody should accept this. They are lying to us. They are taking away our liberty using the virus as an excuse – a virus, remember, that the Government’s own chief medical and scientific advisers have told us, more than once, is far from deadly, from which the majority – almost 100% of those who become infected – recover. They are lying to us and they count on the belief that by keeping up the fearmongering, we will do as we are told.

    As I keep saying, I intend to continue to live my life – and celebrate Christmas – as I have always done. If some unconscionable authoritarian official comes to take away my freedom, they can try. But I’m definitely not handing it over. That’s for sure.

    • Editor

      I agree entirely with you, our lives are now being run by pseudo scientists. Dr. Mengele would be delighted with the new setup, so reminiscent of the system set up by his old boss Adolph and so counter the Nuremberg Protocols for ethics in science. This is truly Orwellian!

      • Athanasius,

        Here’s Sir Desmond Swayne MP – apparently he gets thousands of letters (not just yours and mine!) and he is certainly clued in about the fact that we are under totalitarian governance but that’s it. No other awareness – not that this is NOT about a virus. Julia Hartley-Brewer, ditto. I don’t know what it will take to really remove the “wool” which has been pulled over their eyes…

        • Editor,

          Your post reminded me of something I wanted to say in my long post above. But hey, it gives me another chance to pontificate…

          That long post was a reaction to the Tice video, which displayed the all-too-often talking head attitude of “I can’t believe the government is acting in such an irrational manner,” or, “Why is the government doing this?” or, “The government is incompetent,” or some variation of that assessment.

          These people are looking through the wrong end of the telescope. The government(s) are doing precisely what they have been instructed to do: pave the way for the New World Order tyranny. So, they are not incompetent or irrational or misinformed at all. They are, in fact, being quite effective in following orders from their respective shadow governments.

          This also reminded me of several talking heads in the Catholic traditionalist camp, who used to constantly bemoan the “failures” of ecumenism and dialogue, and wonder out loud why the hierarchy would continue to press on with such a failed policy.

          Once again, the wrong end of the telescope. Ecumenism and dialogue have actually been a smashing (I use that word deliberately) success, since the real goal was not “brotherhood,” but to drain the Catholic Church of her supernatural content and replace it with pious-sounding humanism.

          (At this point, we don’t even get that much from this Pope. What we get now is pious-sounding psycho-babble.) (Oops, veered off topic…)

          With all that in mind, I propose we re-name the blog: “Looking Through the Correct End of the Telescope”!

        • Editor

          I agree, but I wonder if they just give a certain appearance of believing in the plague lest they be silenced altogether or written off as “conspiracy theorists”. To some extent President Trump was even forced to go along with some of it for the sake of public perception.

      • Athanasius,

        I can remember reading Orwell’s novel 1984 and laughing at the idea that it could ever come true. This is why I just can’t believe what’s happening, it’s all coming true.

        • Margaret Mary

          Orwell was in fact an unrepentant Communist. I think his book was less a work of fiction than insider knowledge of future plans! It certainly has come true, in every detail.

  7. This is getting to be truly beyond ridiculous. You can go abroad but it’s illegal to go to the airport, LOL!
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/scotland-travel-ban-you-can-go-abroad-but-trips-to-the-airport-are-illegal/ar-BB1bab7q?ocid=msedgntp

    I can’t believe that we can’t go even a fairly short distance from one area to another. It’s going to be a police matter, too. Why are people so blind, or stupid, I don’t know which, to think this is about a virus that is no worse than the flu – that people die every year from flu and we never talk about it, even. I’m stunned. We are definitely being programmed to accept this permanently. It’s just amazing that Julia Hartley Brewer and Desmond Swayne don’t see it.

    • Lily, I agree. It’s really all beyond ridiculous, as you say.

      I can’t see people rising up. They will moan but they won’t do anything.

      I think we’re in this situation for the foreseeable future. One reason I think this is because our political leaders have told us we will live like this for a long time to come, no end in sight.

    • RCA Victor,

      That looks like a very promising platform. There’s also Parler,
      https://parler.com/auth/access

      I only know about Parler because I saw, recently, that Lifesitenews has signed up to it – they have also signed up to Gab..
      https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/join-lifesitenews-on-parler.

      It’s great that there are now options other than Twitter and Facebook.

      Maybe some time in the near future, we’ll have a thread dedicated to this subject.

      • Editor

        Yes, everyone of a conservative lean must abandon the controlled social media platforms now and sign up to these alternatives, just as all Fox readers shifted quickly to Newsmax. It’s an absolute must.

    • RCAVictor

      Do you use their browser and platform? I had a look and it looks like a good alternative to Google. My only concern is that if I replace Google I might lose certain ease of access functions and would have to change my email address, etc. Any personal experience advice would be gratefully received.

      • Athanasius,

        I don’t use Gab yet, but I use Opera for a browser and DuckDuckGo for a search engine. Those are supposedly much more private, esp. DuckDuckGo. I still keep by gmail address though – it’s not affected by those choices.

        Actually, since 99.9% of the time this is the only blog I where I comment, I haven’t felt any need to switch to Gab yet. I did sign up months ago, and I get email updates from them, but when I first logged in and checked it out, I found the comments were purely political stuff. I decided not to jump into that swirling chaos…

        I’ll forward you their latest email – there’s a link at the bottom where you can create an account if you like.

        • RCAVictor

          Many thanks for this information and your advice. I will now go and make alterations to my desktop software to shut “Big Tech” out!

  8. I agree that there is going to be a “day of reckoning” ahead for all those involved in pushing these lockdowns and restrictions.

    I wonder if anyone has heard anything, an update on the class action law suit that the German lawyer spoke about in his video – it was posted on this blog a few times, but no updates.

  9. Crofterlady is having computer problems right now, and so, since she is unable to post this video herself, she asked me to do so on her behalf. It’s a segment from today’s Mike Graham show, where he interviews a doctor, Dr Clare Craig. For the record, I haven’t had time to watch/listen to this clip all the way through yet, myself, but it looks good, judging by the introduction…

  10. God bless and protect this Consultant Pathologist for speaking out. Too many doctors have been too scared to question publicly, just when we need them to.

  11. Here is an interesting article from the SSPX (published yesterday) relating to the morality of receiving a corona virus vaccine. It is probably a useful discussion about vaccines in general, as it addresses the methods of their development etc.

    https://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/can-catholic-good-conscience-receive-coronavirus-vaccine-62007?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tweepsmap-SSPX.org

    At the bottom of the document there are links to previous SSPX and Vatican statements relating to moral issues surrounding vaccines.

    • Gabriel Syme,

      I don’t agree with that article at all. I find it contradictory and it shows the SSPX totally out of touch with the whole motivation behind the Bill Gates vaccine. He’s talking blithely about the “Vaccine Certificate” (I saw him in a recent video extract saying that) – so we will be forced to have this vaccine if we want to go anywhere, or do anything.

      I’m actually quite scandalised at that article. The SSPX have been silent for ages now, never criticising Pope Francis and saying not a word about lockdowns etc, nothing that I have heard anyway. So, why are they suddenly keen to support a vaccine which is being rushed through? Vaccines take years and years to test before they’re approved and can do huge harm if they are not properly tested.

      I do really wonder what the SSPX is doing. It is ludicrous to make a distinction between the manufacture of the vaccine and the public taking it. That’s nonsense. It’s either moral or immoral.

  12. RCAVictor

    You beat me too it. I have already written to the SSPX USA District superior about the mRNA vaccine, which is extremely dangerous to human health and a backdoor to altering human genetics to make people infertile – enter Bill Gates!

    Besides that, the moral argument supporting the other option – vaccines from aborted foetus stem cells – doesn’t hold up in my opinion, which is why the Church statements linked to that article go no further back than a 2005 document produced by the Pontifical Academy for Life, which is a post-conciliar institution without binding authority.

    If I recall correctly, the argument is that because these vaccines are produced from the stem cells of babies aborted as far back as 1970, rendering the sin remote in time, it is morally licit for people to receive them if required for their health, assuming of course no evil intent on the part of the recipient, which I take to mean that they must not approve of abortion in general as a means of producing vaccines.

    The article speaks of “material” sin in a way that seems to let the recipient off the hook, suggesting that it’s not morally illicit to profit from someone else’s evil provided you condemn the original evil.

    For me that’s skewed reasoning, for while It may be less culpable before God, as material heresy is less culpable than formal heresy, evil is evil and we are not at liberty to profit from it under any circumstances. The duty of Catholics, as I understand it, is to inform themselves about all vaccines and to reject outright anything that is created contrary to the eternal and natural law.

    Let’s take it a step further on the “legitimate material sin” argument and ask: What if a Catholic mother-to-be is informed by doctors that to go full term with her pregnancy is almost certain to kill her and that the only way to preserve her life and health is to abort the foetus. Would her consent to that act of killing, since she has no evil intent, constitute a mortal sin on her soul, or would it be written off as a “material sin” of necessity? See how the back door can get pushed open further and further once it’s ajar?

    Let’s take another example. What if the martyrs, in order to preserve their lives, had agreed out of necessity, without evil intent, to burn a grain of incense before the pagan idols. Would that have been considered a mere “material sin”, legitimate under the circumstances? No, it would not.

    Preserving bodily health and life is not the ultimate end of man, the health of his soul is and so it seems to me that when faced with terrible moral dilemmas like this, the eternal and natural law must always hold firm.

    Should a person be guinely at death’s door requiring a vaccine then the synthetic option is morally legitimate, since the risk of genetic modification of one’s cell structure by synthetic means is no more risky than certain death if it’s not tried.

    Besides all that, the SSPX should be highlighting the fakery behind this pandemic rather than speaking of vaccines as though it were a genuine killer plague. It is not a plague, it’s relatively harmless for 99.7% of the global population. So before informing ourselves on vaccines, let’s inform ourselves on the present Communist totalitarian scam this virus represents.

    • Athanasius,

      Thank you for exposing this fake reasoning – almost like a variety of situation ethics.

      There might be a couple of Scripture passages that also expose the sophism:

      1. “For I, the LORD, your God, am a jealous God, inflicting punishment for their ancestors’ wickedness on the children of those who hate me, down to the third and fourth generation…” (Exodus 20)

      It seems to be mainstream theology that this passage does not mean what it appears to mean, i.e. that children will be punished for the sins of their parents. However, in this case, the children (Big Pharma) are committing the same sin as their “parents” (predecessors at Big Pharma): using aborted fetal cells for vaccines.

      It also seems that to excuse this because the original fetal cells were harvested long ago is to deny how Original Sin is transmitted. Has Original Sin disappeared or been attenuated because it happened 4,000+ years ago? What says the SSPX about that?

      2. “He that is not with me, is against me: and he that gathereth not with me, scattereth.”

      But according to the SSPX, he that looketh for false rationales may sitteth on the fence, still be morally licit, and still be with Our Lord.

    • Athanasius,

      I can’t thank you enough for that response to the disgraceful SSPX article about “the vaccine” – such utter ignorance beggars belief.

      One of the reasons for my gratitude is that I’ve had telephone calls about this – people are just amazed that the SSPX has no clue about the sinister rationale behind this rushed vaccine, and that seems to be because they have stupidly fallen for the propaganda. I have now pointed them to this thread and your response. Deo gratias!

      Did somebody say “leadership”? Well, as I’m afraid I have just had to advise a concerned reader, do NOT look for it in the SSPX at this time.

      • Editor,

        The SSPX has no clue about theistic evolution either. There seems to be a disturbing strain of dyed-in-the-wool compromisers among them.

        • RCA Victor / Athanasius,

          I am, sadly, reminded of the thread we ran on the shocking Angelus Conference where a diocesan priest shared a platform with Bishop Fellay and pushed his theory about sexual sin – not a problem, just invite Our Lord in to view impure images, even porn with you, when tempted.
          https://catholictruthblog.com/2019/09/29/traditional-conference-porn-priest-bishop-fellay-to-share-platform/

          Now, here’s the bit. I don’t remember noticing it at the time, but I scrolled through that thread just now and what I found MOST interesting was WHO was missing from it. One regular and one semi-regular contributor absented themselves from that conversation and they are devoted “SSPX-ers”.

          Let’s be clear; we are free to attend SSPX Masses and avail ourselves of the Sacraments there, and we may be grateful when we have apparently sound priests sent to us in Scotland, but what we may NOT do is act as if the SSPX – or any other religious order, association, society – is an independent cult with its own moral code, and above all criticism. We are either Catholics or we are not. If we claim to be Catholics, then we must not view porn. End of discussion. That should have been the sum and substance of Bishop Fellay’s “thank you but no thank you” note to the “porn priest” when he disinvited him.

          Rich indeed it would be for us to report on scandals in any and every diocese while remaining silent – thus connoting consent – when any priest-or Bishop of the SSPX itself causes scandal.

          The above event caused immense scandal – as will this article pushing a vaccine which may, God help us, cause serious injury or disability to people because it cannot possibly have been properly tested for safety and effectiveness within a few months. That takes years so it is puzzling in the extreme as to why the SSPX feels compelled to encourage the use of a vaccine in these circumstances.

          What’s the bet they wear masks and socially distance?

          Gimme patience!

          • Editor

            I am likewise grateful to you and RCAVictor for highlighting other issues within the SSPX hierarchy which, taken together, and I hate to say this because I have no wish whatever to re-activate “the Resistance” people, it would seem that some level of Modernist infiltration has in fact taken place.

            The porn priest scandal, the evolution book of Fr. Robinson, the vaccine outrage and various other incidents that I won’t go in to, not to mention the silence every time someone asks for clarification or correction, all points to infiltration at a high level. We’ve seen this before, have we not? It was the method used by Modernists to change our religion in the first place.

            I am not trying to denigrate the SSPX here – I have attended SSPX Masses for 35 years and will continue to do so. All I’m doing is highlighting a situation that is becoming increasingly worrying and advising fellow Catholics to be alert, check everything against Traditional teaching and call these potential infiltrators out at every opportunity. They are in the minority now but if we are not vigilant and active then they will end up the majority and the SSPX truly will disappear.

            • A & E,

              If I remember correctly from my SSPX days, some of their clergy seen to live in a sort of xenophobic bubble – or perhaps it is a clericalist bubble – which tends to create an echo chamber of strange thinking that only somewhat resembles the Catholic Faith.

              That said, though, many Novus Ordo clergy live in a “progressive” bubble of their own, so this phenomenon is certainly not unique to the SSPX.

              In fact, I have been working with a large group of laity at my old SSPX parish on a music project, and I am glad to say without hesitation that these laity most definitely do not share the sentiments of their compromiser clergy, on any topic.

  13. Bishop Athanasius Schneider condemns any suggestion of using vaccines derived from the stem cells of aborted babies, here: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/wholly-unethical-us-personhood-org-condemns-covid-vaccines-derived-from-aborted-babies

    The following is a quote from the linked interview:

    “Maybe I’m wrong, but I have the suspicion that partly this COVID situation was created not only to implement a new dictatorship and control of the population, but in some way to legalize abortion globally – the killing of unborn babies – so that the entire planet will be collaborating in the process of killing babies through the vaccine which will use parts of aborted babies. The vaccine will be imposed and obligatory – so that you cannot work, travel, go to school without it, obliging the entire population to receive the vaccine, but the only vaccine will be that made with cells from aborted babies. Perhaps they will not accept other vaccines, and they will lie, saying that these are not effective, that the only effective vaccine will be from aborted babies. I am not affirming now that this will happen, but it is my suspicion: it appears to me realistic that this could come. This is for me the last step of Satanism: that Satan and the world government – ultimately the masonic world government – will oblige all, even the Church, to accept abortion in this way. And therefore we must resist very strongly against this, if it comes. We must even accept to be martyrs.”

    “Unfortunately, some Bishops, even good Bishops and priests, are already presenting what for me is a sophism in justifying that you can accept this vaccine from aborted babies according to moral principles.”

    Several other cardinals and bishops oppose such a vaccine:

    In an open letter published in May, several Catholic Cardinals and bishops led by former papal nuncio Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò and Cardinals Gerhard Ludwig Mueller, Joseph Zen, and Janis Pujats said that “for Catholics it is morally unacceptable to develop or use vaccines derived from material from aborted fetuses.”

    Additionally, at the May 2020 Rome Life Forum Cardinal Raymond Burke said: “It must be clear that it is never morally justified to develop a vaccine through the use of the cell lines of aborted fetuses.” He added that forced vaccines violate the “integrity of citizens.”

    We need to be vigilant in this serious matter. I have, as I said, written to the U.S. District Superior of the SSPX asking that he urgently remove that article, which we must assume was posted in good faith by a very ill-informed individual.

    • Athanasius,

      Thank you for this update on the article.

      Is it the case that the original was either the result of a lack of proper checks on what was being published, or someone publishing of their own accord but who lacked the competence to do so?

      I find some of the language around this topic to be vague: maybe that is down to my own fault, or perhaps translation issues arising from clerics having different mother tongues.

      For example, some clerics will refer to vaccines “derived from” cells originating from an aborted baby, others will refer to vaccines “developed from” the same.

      To me, those two phrases are not the same. (Of course, any usage of such cells is obviously morally repugnant – human beings are not raw materials).

      I understand “developed from” as meaning that such cells were used in the testing / discovery process of a vaccine. Whereas “derived from” suggests to me that such cells are actually included as a raw material in the manufacturing process.

      This what I thought the original SSPX article was referring to. I thought it was arguing that, although it is wrong to use such cells to test a new vaccine, it is not a grave matter for Catholic to subsequently benefit from such a vaccine (they made the distinction between material and formal sin from doing so).

      If a vaccine can be manufactured completely safely and morally, should a previous immoral development phase preclude Catholics from using it? I would have said no, and that the main danger there is adopting a permissive mindset that “the end justifies the means. Is this view incorrect?

      I look forward to seeing a modified or wholly new version of the SSPX article.

      I am uneasy about opposition to vaccines in general.

      Although the issue of the use of aborted cells (in any capacity) regarding vaccinations is one which is new to me, I have always had a generally positive view of vaccines – which eliminated the scourge of smallpox, for example.

      I have heard disquiet from others about mandatory vaccines and certificates of vaccination: but (at least in Scotland) the NHS has stated there is no plan to mandate them, for one thing, most people would not require it – as we know.

      As for certification – everyone’s GP maintains a register of what vaccinations a person has received, so that is nothing new. I think any responsible medical system would always keep records of administering any kind of drug.

      • Gabriel Syme

        I think the first thing that has to be said about vaccinations is that, in general, people have to do their own research and reach their own conclusions before deciding which vaccines are morally licit, trustworthy and safe and which vaccines are completely out of bounds, especially for their children. The key is to have the CHOICE to either accept or reject vaccines.

        This fundamental freedom is presently under threat. Indeed I have just read a very informed article (at LSN, I think) stating that the UK’s GCHQ together with America’s equivalent Intelligence arm, the NSA, have been instructed to re-adapt an internet “tool” they developed to disrupt online terrorists and deploy it against all websites where vaccination is called into question. This is both frightening and sinister.

        Another article I read a while back, again reliable, declared that all of the “big pharma” companies around the world are “serial felons” when it comes to deaths and harm caused by past vaccine products. All have been fined several times in court and had to pay substantial damages for manufacturing and distributing dangerous products, though they still made a killing (no pun intended) from overall sales to governments.

        The Swine Flu vaccine is one of the most recent examples of this criminality. It killed people and disabled others to such an extent that it had to be completely withdrawn and destroyed. So, and this is before we touch on the moral question, do we trust their rushed Covid-19 vaccine on the back of the Swine Flu episode?

        If I can just take another example. You will remember the controversy over the MMR vaccination; how some parents claimed it had seriously damaged the health of their children and how Tony Blair, then Prime Minister, who was mandating that all parents should consider it safe, refused to confirm or deny in public that he had refused it for his young son?

        I recall one parent speaking about this at the time claiming that his 11-year old son, who had been larger than life, as 11-year olds usually are, was turned into a couch-ridden vegetable the very day after receiving the MMR jab, a tragedy from which he never recovered. Of course it was all played down and we were told that MMR had nothing to do with his son’s sudden deterioration in health. Aye, right!

        So much then for the practical view of vaccines, although I should add here that vaccines for smallpox, TB, etc., have proven to be quite successful. Let’s just say that some vaccines over time have been shown to be safe and useful while others have huge question marks. Time is important in the matter of vaccinations since no one really knows what consequences will result in the health of subjects until a bit further down the line. This makes new vaccines highly risky, especially when they are rushed through to meet a real or imagined pandemic. Wisdom suggests caution and research!

        Now, as regards morality, all vaccines produced OR derived from the stem cells of aborted babies are completely unacceptable to Catholics and can never be taken. The Church is emphatic on this point, as you will see from my earlier posting of statements from Archbishop Vigano, Bishop Schneider, Cardinals Muller and Zen, etc. These Churchmen are not venturing their own opinion when they declare that we must face martyrdom rather than use these products – there is no such thing as a “material” sin of remoteness in their regard. One either shares in the moral evil of abortion or one does not, regardless of whether it is producer or user of a given product. It is simply not morally licit under any circumstances to use a vaccine that has as its therapeutic basis the murder of an unborn child.

        Here’s an equivalent scenario to consider. Imagine a Jewish organisation declaring that it was licit to collect and use the gold fillings retrieved from Nazi furnaces to enrich oneself on the basis that the main crime was that of the Nazis some 60 years ago and therefore only a “material” crime on the part of the collector today. How far do you think that argument would go in the court of public opinion? Same moral forbiddance that Catholics face with vaccines from the stem cell lines of babies aborted 50 years ago.

        This is why I believe the SSPX article was taken down, they realised the error they had fallen into. How that article ever got on to the main SSPX webpage to begin with is highly questionable and raises the suspicion that some people in higher clerical positions within the SSPX may not be what they appear to be. I personally find it difficult to believe that this was accidental or due to a simple misunderstanding of the Church’s position.

        The thrust of that article, bearing in mind the sentence that seeks to portray objectors as fundamentalist Protestants, is immediately repugnant to every Catholic with a sense of the faith, let alone priests who are trained in moral theology. No, for me that was no accident and the SSPX needs to start cleaning house in the upper clerical levels, especially as we have other examples of Modernism such as the Novus Ordo “porn priest” lecture at the Angelus Conference and Fr. Robinson’s book on evolution, which effectively casts doubt on certain aspects of the Creation. There’s infiltration in my view and they need to root it out quickly.

        As regards the synthetic vaccine for Covid-19 which the SSPX article declares is morally licit, perhaps even dutiful to receive, this is also false and extremely dangerous.

        The mRNA synthetic vaccine alters human cell structures. In other words, it genetically modifies human beings with God alone knows what potential consequences down the line.

        Bio-molecular science in this area of RNA messaging is in its infancy and requires many more decades of research before it can be shown to be safe. There is potential in this science for patients with, say, terminal cancer, but that’s a long way off and so rushed vaccines now for a virus that’s not a killer could, and probably will, prove catastrophic. The cure can never be more dangerous or potentially life-threatening than the illness it seeks to protect against.

        Besides that, we know that Bill Gates is very heavily invested in mRNA vaccines, up to his neck in them in fact, and that’s because of the opportunities this form of vaccine will offer to eugenicists like him. Remember, simple modifications to vaccines of this nature could so alter human cell structure as to render a many human beings infertile, thereby greatly reducing the world’s population.

        It is my personal belief that this is why this new kind of vaccination is being rushed through the system and is set to be made mandatory on the global population. We don’t need a smoking gun, we can smell these evil people from miles off, they are so transparent in their arrogance.

        I hope I’ve covered all of the points you raised and managed to clarify for you. My final point would be to say that when vaccination first appeared on the science scene many decades ago it was being pursued by genuinely caring people at a time, and in a world, far more moral than now. Today it’s about greed for money and to bring about ideological ends.

        Knowing this, we are obliged to research absolutely everything that science proposes to us for our health because, as we see with this Covid scam, those we previously trusted with our lives have shown themselves to be evil Dr. Mengele’s with a eugenics plan for the globe that’s straight from Hell.

        • Athanasius,

          Thanks for your interesting response.

          I agree that choice is imperative regarding vaccines or any form of medication.

          And I agree on the point that big pharmaceutical companies are serial felons. I used to work for GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), manufacturing various pharmaceuticals (and later providing engineering services, as an employee of a different company).

          An internet search for “GSK + fines” brings up a host of incidents from around the world ranging from bribery, explosions, cheating the taxpayer, fraud etc. Its quite shocking really and the fact they can keep paying these fines shows the levels of money involved in their activities.

          Most concerning, was an incident where they failed to provide full safety information to the Federal Drug Administration (FDA) who were working to ascertain whether certain medicines were safe.

          From personal experience, I know that the “rules” around how these companies operate are very tight, but – as we can see – the problem is that if the companies are run in an immoral fashion they will not hesitate to bend or avoid these rules.

          With all medicines, there is a recognition that some people will react badly to them or have side effects. All drugs come with an information note to this effect. There is an element of risk involved in any human endeavour. But as you say, medicine should never be more dangerous than that which is seeks to treat.

          Its clear the big risk with this covid vaccine is the speed at which it is being developed, though I we should ultimately reserve judgement until they present their final results and seek to roll it out.

          I will read up on Bill Gates – where would you advise me to start? My knowledge of him is limited to Windows! Though I do know his wife is a “Pope Francis Catholic” who seeks to advance contraception.

          I admit that I struggle with the idea that because something was done in an immoral fashion, it closes off avenues for others who have personally done nothing immoral.

          The Nazis through their nefarious activities learned quite a lot medically, which advanced understanding about (for example) hypothermia or effects of high altitude / low pressure. While such a despicable regime could never be defended – could we not make use of what they learned?

          You point about the differences in today’s world with that of decades / centuries ago, regarding medical care, is a very good one.

          What you say about the SSPX is very concerning, that they may not be as reliable as one would hope. I have only been associated (as a lay person) with the SSPX since late 2012 (not long) and so obviously your longer experience of them carries weight.

          I remember reading an article (I think by Bishop Williamson) who said that anyone who had been associated with the SSPX since before 2012 could not help but see differences in the Society and its stances between then and now. Would you agree with that? Do you think any potential rot is confined to the US district, or is a global problem?

          • Gabriel Syme

            You may wish to start by reading this very lengthy article in the NY Times. It is of course very favourable towards Gates, dismissing credible evidence of his eugenics mindset as baseless while praising his ‘humanitarianism’ and concern for population health in developing nations. Still, it gives a sense of how deeply involved this non-scientist is in the world’s vaccination programmes – he finances and runs them all.

            And now the words of the “philanthropist” himself, the man who wants to save lives by vaccination!

            https://www.gatesnotes.com/about-bill-gates/a-conversation-with-bill-gates-population-growth

            Just as an aside:

            https://www.newstarget.com/2020-11-25-bill-gates-designed-fraudulent-election-software-dominion.html

            I’ll try to get more up later when I have some time, but these stories should start the shivers running down your spine!

            There’s little point in Googling Bill Gates since Microsoft, his company, owns Google. You really need to find alternative websites like Breitbart News, LifeSiteNews, Brighteon.com and other trustworthy sources to get information that’s not made generally available to the public. For example, the association of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the Clinton Foundation and the General Secretary of the WHO when he was health minister for a Marxist regime in Ethiopia. His connection to other radical African leaders of a Marxist bent and his relationship with our very own Health Secretary, Matt Hancock. It’s all there to discover, but it will take you some serious time.

            As for the SSPX, there are issues today that did not exist pre-2012, although I would argue that the seeds may have been sown back then when few suspected it. Bishop Williamson was more of a hundrance than a help in that regard, having for many years before his expulsion from the SSPX worked to create his own little army of hard-nosed schismatics within the institution ready to pounce into action should the least mention of reconciliation with Rome be heard. We saw his unit mobilise in 2011/12 when the SSPX/Rome discussions began under Benedict XVI.

            So Bishop Williamson was completely the opposite in mindset to what I am suggesting exists at some level today in the SSPX. In fact, it was only due to his presence for so many years that I think the Modernist element kept its head down. No need for that now that Bishop Williamson is (correctly) marginalised.

            I wouldn’t be too scandalised by this, the devil was always going to infiltrate the SSPX to some extent or other, it stands to reason. My belief is that the majority of SSPX priests are still very sound and good priests, but there are a few in higher places, I’m certain of it, who are not of the spirit of Archbishop Lefebvre. These are either “sleepers” within the SSPX or priests who have lost the zeal to fight and have allowed themselves to be tainted with Modernist poison. The examples I provided earlier are fairly conclusive of this reality, I think.

            So what do we do? What can we do? We can only be vigilant, watch everything and raise our voice whenever something occurs that we know instinctively to be repugnant to our Catholic religion. Oh yes, and we should pray for all priests.

          • Gabriel Syme,

            I would recommend The Corbett Report for info on Gates. See the very last link here:

            https://www.corbettreport.com/bestof/

            Last under “Unauthorized Biographies.” In fact, in may be a while before you actually get to that one, once you see all the other titles whilst you’re scrolling down!

    • Gabriel,

      I have reservations about childhood vaccinations and after much research decided not to vaccinate my youngest child who is now eight years old. It is a very difficult decision for a parent to make. I remember having a conversation with a group of mothers discussing this very topic, one mother, referring to measles, she she would rather have a measles party and have it over with, later in the conversation, I discovered she was a GP, that pleased me and helped me to relax about the pressure of getting my child vaccinated.

      One of the books I read as part of my research is ‘The Truth About Vaccines’ by Dr. Richard Halvorsen. One of the points made in Dr. Richard Halvorsen’s book about small pox was – “when compulsory vaccination finally stopped in 1948, the proportion of infants being vaccinated immediately dropped from the proportion of 37% to 18%. During 1950s and 1960s, 21 died as a result of the smallpox vaccination, but there was only one death from the small pox…”The government abandoned the smallpox vaccination in 1971, “when it was acknowledged to be a greater threat than the disease”p.45

      This is a great book, there is whole chapters dedicated to small pox, MMR,

      I have read much about Dr. Andrew Wakefield who was discredited unfairly, The same book discusses the case of Dr. Wakefield, and provides very alarming information about the MMR vaccination, I would recommend reading the chapter on the MMR which is fascinating.

      By law pharmaceutical companies don’t have to put all the ingredients on the information label of a vaccine but only the some of the main ingredients they deem necessary. They also sign a disclaimer if there are any adverse effects to the vaccines.

      One interesting point about the Swine Flu vaccines which I refused for my 5 year old child, was eventually taken of the shelf for anyone from the age 17 and younger because of the adverse reactions.

      I also refused the HPV vaccines for my daughter at age 13 in the local school. The woman, Diane Harper, who spent 20 years developing the HPV and passed it at phase 2 or 3 of the trials said she couldn’t sleep at night because of the serious adverse reactions from it, and later admitted that it only protected for 5 years and would have to be given 3 doses throughout their young adult life. The HP only covers 4 of the main strains and there are over 100 strains plus many people will be given a false sense of security, and it encourage promiscuity. Whereas, when woman go to their smear tests all 100 strains can be detected. I cannot find the report about Diane Harper but I remember reading it at the time.

      Dr. Jayne Donegan is another point of research:
      http://www.jayne-donegan.co.uk/

      I have no intention of taking this Covid vaccine, I think it is sinister and dangerous, and pray that it doesn’t become enforceable.

      I urge any parent to study childhood vaccinations and read Dr. Richard Halvorsen.s book.

      I’m sure the book can be found for much cheaper, it is just a case of looking around.

      • Catherine,

        Many thanks for sharing your own experience and research as a parent.

        I will seek out the book you recommend by Dr Halvorsen.

        I had always considered vaccines a fairly humdrum / routine matter – but the covid situation is providing a useful context to discuss them.

        I have been used to them since childhood – I can remember getting a tetanus jag (against bacteria) after a head injury as a child, and the BCG jab (against TB) at high school

        With all medications, a minority of people can have adverse reactions to them: that does not concern me per se, but of course medications themselves should not become a major source of suffering or illness.

        Before this particular discussion and its implications, my family and I had received a bunch of recent vaccinations!

        Our 3 month old baby recently got the latest batch which all the babies get – I was not concerned about this as our older children did not suffer any adverse affects from it.

        I was recently immunised against pneumonia along with my annual flu jab (I am offered this due to having mild asthma). These are developed using eggs (I have checked this recently).

        I have never had any trouble with the flu jab, though the area where its administered can be tender for a day or so afterwards.

        It turns out that nursery and primary school kids are now offered the flu jab, but in the form of a nasal spray. We were quite happy for our older 2 children to receive this spray, based on my own experience. No problems for them either.

        Certainly I will be alert from now on as to the nature of offered vaccines – there is obviously more than meets the eye to some of them, though I do have a generally positive view.

        Thanks again for the book recommendation!

        • Gabriel Syme,

          Bill Gates is a determined proponent of population control – he targets the poorest countries, especially Africa, where the culture is very pro-family and pro-children. Here’s a clip of him at his altruistic (I really care about these people) best…

          And here is an article over at The Remnant showing the way the globalists are targeting Africa – I’m certain Gates is mentioned in there somewhere, although it’s a while since I’ve read it. He’s hand-in-glove with all the main players anyway…
          https://www.remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1849-african-bishops-beware-here-comes-the-un-sustainable-development

          Given his obsession with cutting populations around the world (notice his enthusiasm for giving women in poorer countries the “tools” they need – i.e. contraception and abortion) and being at the opposite end of the life span where I have no doubt he would like to put an end, literally, to those of us non-productive people who insist on cluttering up the planet, I wouldn’t trust him to “care” for me for two seconds. Ergo, I will accept a vaccine for Covid-19 twenty years after Pope Francis converts to Catholicism!

  14. Rorate Caeli reports on a statement from Italian Virologist Andrea Crisanti, which is pertinent to what we have been discussing:

    Normally it takes about five to eight years to produce a vaccine. For this, without available data, I wouldn’t take the first vaccine that should be arriving in January. I’d like to be sure that this vaccine has been tested properly and that it satisfies the safety and efficacy criterion. As a citizen I have this right and I’m not willing to accept shortcuts.

    https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2020/11/de-mattei-safest-vaccine-against.html

    • Gabriel Syme

      He’s quite right, there is great danger in this new vaccine because it has not gone through the usual testing regime of many years. In fact, I read that patients are to be warned that the first of two doses can be very unpleasant, will make people feel quite ill for a while. No thanks!

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