England: Three-Tier System Introduced… But Is It POSSIBLE To Conquer A Virus? 

Comment: 

Are you impressed with the way Keir Starmer, Labour Leader and Leader of the Opposition is “scrutinising” the Westminster Government’s handling of the Coronavirus “crisis”?  It seems to me that any parliamentarian who still thinks there is a “crisis” cannot possibly properly and fully scrutinise the Government and its medical and scientific “experts”.  But you may disagree.  If so, let’s hear it. 

First, though, I need to make one thing clear;  I sometimes receive emails from those who have been affected by Covid-19, either directly or indirectly (through family and friends) and our comments here are sometimes interpreted as dismissive of the gravity of the virus.  I have replied with a reassurance that we do not deny that this is a real virus and a particularly nasty virus.  Our concern is simply this: that the scientific experts having emphasised that most who become infected recover,  it cannot be right, surely, for any Government (let alone the Governments of the entire world) to close down the economy and lock us into our homes. Then, when lockdown ends, to make us live under various restrictions – in short, removing our personal and religious freedoms, on the assumption that in this way a virus – any virus – can be eradicated.  If that is the case, why was this strategy not used years and years ago to conquer other viruses, notably the annual flu? 

With that thought in mind, let us read your opinion about these latest restrictions in England – the “three tier” approach.  We are told that Nicola Sturgeon is considering a similar system for Scotland although whether ours will be three or multiple tiers, remains to be seen, according to BBC Reporting Scotland earlier this evening.  We’ll find out several weeks from now – a clue that, as I think we all know, this new form of Government control is not going to end… It’s here to stay (as the politicians themselves have admitted more than once) “indefinitely”.  

Are we all just going to roll over and accept this continuing totalitarianism?  

69 responses

  1. Here in Canada, they tried the “Reopening Approach” in stages. They started in May with phase one. A few weeks later, stage two – more things opened. We were promised stage three would be almost everything back to normal – when we got there, it was anything but. 50 people gatherings, religious gatherings of 30% and no more, masks, social distancing, etc. Now that “second wave” is here, the measures are moving back. The “hotspots” are back in a revised “stage two” (whatever that means!) and the rest of our province (Ontario) is waiting for the second shutdown.

    • Andrew,

      There’s no real intent to reopen gradually or otherwise, here in the UK – that is self-evident. Already, only hours after Boris Johnson announced the 3-tier system, his Chief Medical Officer – Sir Chris Whitty – is saying it is unlikely to work on its own… We’re always being quietly prepared for more to come…

      “…he cast doubt on whether the basic package of measures for the highest alert areas would be enough to limit the spread of coronavirus.

      “I am not confident – and nor is anybody confident – that the Tier 3 proposals for the highest rates, if we did the absolute base case and nothing more, would be enough to get on top of it,” he added.”

      There’s also a thinly veiled threat of the cancellation of Christmas if anyone should dissent from the latest “new normal”.
      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/strictest-covid-rules-not-sufficient-to-limit-virus-on-their-own-says-chief-medical-officer/ar-BB19WX37?ocid=msedgntp

      All the talk of a “second wave” when, by all the statistics available, there was no “first wave” only serves to confirm the suspicions of those of us who have been suspicious from the get-go, that something is rotten in the House of the UK (and Canada, too, it seems!)

      • Well, Canada is in the commonwealth! I didn’t watch the video – so likely I don’t have all the information – it just sounds oddly like what we have happening here. Of course, the push is for another lockdown – shut down everything. We’re not quite there yet, but apparently (((they))) are lobbying for a general consensus here to shut everything down again. Places of worship have not yet been shut down – but of course that is the constant talk. We’re forced into mandatory masks, social distancing, not leaving your house, threats of $10K fines for breaking the rules, and that if we don’t just sit at home and follow the rules, the whole (announced) second wave would happen. And here we are, all waiting on the edge of the knife for March to repeat itself.

        • Andrew Magoffin

          Isn’t it odd that this second wave is appearing in all countries at the same time? These people are criminals, no other explanation for it.

          • Yes, absolutely. Here, they said a few weeks ago that we will have over 1000 cases (forget deaths) a day by mid October. And here we are with near 1000 “cases” a day. Yesterday, there were around 650 new cases in Ontario and over 700 recoveries! These people aren’t just stupid and can’t do the math. This is a deliberate attempt to control and deceive. This is Communism. You know, the Communists used to take over with tanks and guns. Now they’ve renamed the common cold, repackaged it as highly deadly, and sought complete control of the population. Criminals is an understatement!

            • I strongly recommend following UK Column. the latest broadcast of yesterday co12 Oc continues the appalling tale
              https://www.ukcolumn.org/
              On this website there is also shocking stuff about the scandalous cover up of bullying and violence in schools .
              What have we become?

                • Mary,

                  I’ve now watched that “This is a Spiritual Battle” video and am appalled at the presenter’s attack on the Catholic Church at the end. Here’s his take on what it means to be in a spiritual battle: referring to salvation in Christ, he continues…

                  “.Forget the corrupt Catholic Church that has abandoned us and that acted against the interests of the Irish people for decades. The Kingdom of God is inside you and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. The truth is the Word and the Word shall set us free. Make no mistake, it doesn’t matter if you have never believed in a higher power. If you can see the truth of reality around you, you can recognise evil for what it is, then you have a gift from God, a divine talent given to you that you must not waste.

                  Those of us who know the truth have an obligation to plant a seed in the minds of other people and I pray that it helps to grow into a truly global awakening.” (scroll to 1:00:30..)

                  The “seed” which he is planting is Protestantism. He employs the classic Protestant tactic, using Scripture to attack and undermine Christ’s Church. He even dares to use the same quote from Christ’s own lips, intended as a guarantee that the Church will prevail until the end of time, to suggest something much less – that the gates of Hell will not prevail against the Kingdom “inside you”.

                  He is clearly unaware of the nature of the crisis in the Church which has led top churchmen into apostasy, and so this is a unique situation where all too many, if not the majority of churchmen have, indeed, abandoned us, but “The Church” remains the spotless Bride of Christ and will never abandon us.

                  So, having been a huge fan of Dave Cullen’s videos, I now have to think of him as another Carl Vernon – except in the case of Vernon, it’s “merely” a bit of bad language, which is off-putting. Dave Cullen seems to be a Protestantised Catholic (if not an authentic Protestant – he doesn’t say) but he has clearly not grasped some key truths about Catholicism:

                  1) that the Catholic Church was founded by Christ and is essential for salvation

                  2) the Church is comprised of all the saints in Heaven (Church Triumphant), the suffering souls in Purgatory (Church Suffering) and those of us still working our way through life on earth (Church Militant). The Church Militant is both human and divine. The members are human and fail and sin, but the Church is, by its nature, divine because the Church cannot be separated from her Founder, Christ who continues to live in her through the Sacraments. Bad priests, remember, may still effect Christ’s power through His Sacraments. The man in the video does not seem to know this basic truth.

                  Ironically, Cullen urges viewers to seek out the truth (about the virus) but he does not do the same about the Church before his outrageous video attack. If he had done some research, he’d have found out about the 1917 Fatima prophecies, including the key prophecy about the spread of Communism across the world, and going even further back, 400 years ago, the prophecies of Quito, where Our Lady of Good Success warned us of the crisis in the Church to come in the twentieth century.

                  Half-truths are no use, Mary – Dave Cullen is OK on the facts about the virus, but of no use whatsoever in assessing the spiritual nature of this battle. He is right about it being a spiritual battle – he just does not understand what that really means.

                  Very disappointing – I’m now going to try to post this on his YouTube platform, in the comments underneath the video. Mind you, I did the same with Carl Vernon and it’s made no difference. Such is life in cyberspace!

                  PS a few minutes later… I’ve now posted the above on YouTube – will be interesting to see if it is permitted to remain. Not to mention how many “dislikes” it gets! One commentator was already on record praising the video, especially the end! That’ll be one “dislike” for me, already!

                  • Yes indeed he is condemning the whole Church itself, rather than the elements in it who have betrayed us and the Church. I realise that now; maybe I hadn’t listen carefully enough towards the end.

                    • Mary,

                      That’s OK – he speaks so fast that I had to keep rewinding the video to make sure I was hearing it accurately. Any faster, I thought, and he’ll meet himself coming off the Cork-Dublin train 😀

                    • I looked at this on You Tube with a view to commenting, backing up what you say which I agree completely needless to say. but can’t see where you can see the comments or make a comment . I ‘ve only just opened a You Tube account as I’ve never commented on You Tube before or done a thumbs up/down. When I can get my head round it hopefully a comment from me should appear

                    • Mary,

                      When you are watching a video on YouTube, just scroll down and you will see “Add a public comment” – you just start to type on that line, and it will keep making space for you until you’re finished. The comments are right underneath the video you are watching.

                      Right under the video, you see the name of the person or group – in this case it’s “Computing Forever” (I think) and then the number of comments is given (around 3,000) and it’s right there that you will read “Add a public comment”.

                      I paid a flying visit just now and still nobody has replied to me. Neither is there a “like” or “dislike” – I’m just ignored!

                      Well, the way life is right now, I’m only thankful I’m not in handcuffs in the back of a police car 😀

                    • Mary

                      I wouldn’t concern myself about commenting on that video, I commented but received no response from Dave Cullen. I have, however, been batting back and forth with a few others who responded, all doctrinally clueless of course and all hostile to the Church. I know the script with these types, so my intention is to post no further responses to any of them. Henceforth I abide by the old adage: “say nothing, act casual”!

                    • Athanasius,

                      I can’t see any comment from you under Cullen’s video over on YouTube.

                      Maybe you did so using the “reply” button to someone else (not me, as there are no replies to me, or weren’t yesterday when I last checked).

                      I forgot to tell Mary about the “reply” button but then your comment is not seen immediately. Only if people click “replies” will they see it.

                    • Editor

                      My first comment was just written up as a comment, although on hindsight I should have made it a reply to you in order to keep the repsonses together. All the other comments have been replies to various individuals, which is why you can’t find them. Suffice it to say Dave Cullen didn’t respond and the others who did were just idiots.

                  • Editor

                    There is nothing I can add to your superb response to Dave Cullen, except to say I’m off now to post my own comment on his YouTube page. He’s one to be avoided, that’s for sure.

                    • Athanasius,

                      Well, unfortunately for my pride, nobody over at YouTube seems to agree with you. Not a single reply and – worse – not a single “dislike” (or “like” of course, but I wasn’t expecting one of them there…)

                      Still, I’m hopeful that Mr Cullen will read it – that’s all I ask, so if Dave Cullen’s Guardian Angel is reading this, please nudge him to do so. Amen.

  2. Dear Editor,
    The answer to your question is no – if it were possible to “conquer” “beat” or eliminate any virus like the common cold we would have done it long ago. Viruses have probably predated the Flood. The best outcome is to develop that awful condition ‘herd immunity’ which is perhaps appropriate when we are dealing the human population of sheep.
    Over at our friendly Dr Malcolm Kendricks’ blog he states that no vaccine (with or without aborted baby input – my words) could be available before 2022. So it looks like a longer sentence of house arrest for us all.
    Otoh if that great Catholic Sleepy Joe Biden was to become US President then I am sure this Chinese Flu would be eliminated pretty quick.
    On your mention of being charitable and sympathetic to those who are ill, that goes without saying.
    I will ask again, does anyone know of anyone who can prove any fit person under the age of 50 who can be proven to die from this virus?

    • Patrick,

      It’s impossible to know how many, if ANY, died from purely Covid-19, let alone in particular age groups.

      So stop being difficult by asking [intelligent] questions – just be fearful and do what you’re told!

  3. This Chinese virus is barely more deadly than the flu and may even be less deadly. Even the mainstream media said it could have a mortality rate as low as 0.25%. And that’s a guess, so it could just as easily be 0.025%. The current mortality rate is 2.9% globally but that’s artificially inflated due to lack of testing. Millions have been asymptomatic. Furthermore, many many deaths have been recorded as covid-19 deaths falsely, e.g. someone tested with covid dies in a car crash the next day = covid death.

    This virus has been exploited by the globalist left because they’ll never let a good crisis go to waste, and they’ll even invent a crisis if they have to.

  4. I get it that the globalists want to keep us locked down until the “big re-set” but what I don’t get is why the likes of the UK would go along with that and why Sweden is not?

        • Helen,

          A month or two ago, one of the bloggers posted the opinion of a nurse friend of theirs that, in the nurse’s opinion, Sweden was the “control group.”

          (Reading between the lines of that assessment: we are in the midst of a global social engineering experiment, with 7 billion Pavlov’s dogs).

          I don’t know how to search for that post, but perhaps Assiduous Editor could help…

          • RCA Victor,

            I wouldn’t know where to begin – I do recall though, that someone mentioned Sweden being possibly a “control group”. However, having searched for it briefly on the blog – (there are so many Covid threads it could be anywhere, so I didn’t spend long looking for it here) – and on the internet more widely, no luck. Not that I believe in luck, but you’ll get my drift.

            I doubt that Sweden was a control group – Sweden was annoying to the powers-that-be – I just think that, for whatever reason, probably financial, isn’t everything in politics, the Swedes decided to more or less go it alone. And right now, I’d happily move to Sweden to go it alone with them!

      • Editor,

        I read the article you have posted from the fatima.org website just prior to coming onto this thread. I would suggest that everyone take the time to listen to what is being said on the video too.

        In the few years since that video made its appearance, most, if not every country in the world has fallen into the grip of communism. Sad to say most people do not recognise it. Catholics who should believe in what Our Lady asked at Fatima, do not. We have nothing to lose by Consecrating Russia to Our Lady’s Immaculate Heart.

  5. Here’s a letter I will be posting off today to Scotland’s Justice Minister, Hamza Yousaf. It’s a bit long so feel free to skip past some or all of it!

    October 13, 2020

    Dear Mr. Yousaf,

    I am writing to inform you that due to the Scottish government’s extended Covid-19 restrictions across Central Scotland my brother has just been made redundant from his job.

    The company he worked for supplied and maintained gaming machines within the hospitality industry, now utterly decimated by this government’s irresponsible Covid-19 response. Since my own work is largely carried out within large offices across Scotland, also still tightly restricted, I fully expect my job to go at the end of October following 7 months of furlough which was initially supposed to last just a few months at most.

    National lockdowns, unprecedented in human history as a method of virus control, have clearly and predictably failed as an alternative to “herd immunity”, yet the SNP and other governments, not satisfied with the incredible damage already done by this insane pseudo-scientific experiment, are implementing yet another round of destructive restrictions which are set to utterly wipe out the economy of the country and inflict further immense mental, emotional and financial harm on the population.

    This wickedness cannot be the result of mere incompetence, it’s more sinister than that, I fear, which is why I am writing to put you and the First Minister on notice that you will soon be called to account for your actions under the law.

    If and when my employment terminates, as expected, I intend to launch a case in court against the Scottish government seeking compensation. Indeed, I intend to make it my life’s ambition to bring you people to justice for the unconstitutional and unlawful manner by which you have assumed a totalitarian authority to yourselves contrary to every moral and democratic norm in the name of a pandemic that can very easily be shown as never having remotely threatened humanity.
    Unlike many people in the land who have succumbed to a deliberate policy to psychologically terrorise them into compliance via the media, I have spent hundreds of hours researching official sources for the real truth about this virus.

    What I have accrued in evidence during my objective investigation is mind blowing and promises to expose this Covid-19 response of governments as possibly the greatest crime ever committed against humanity.

    From a general suspension of post-mortem examinations and a policy of altering death certificates for the purpose of inflating numbers, to the deliberate suppression of the co-morbidity factor in most deaths and a widespread deployment of PCR testing which is both medically and scientifically discounted as a diagnostic tool for the detection of this or any other virus, all the facts are there to show that something very unwholesome is happening in the name of Covid-19.

    Now, whether the Scottish government is criminally motivated in the perpetuation of this Covid-19 hoax, which has been flipped from a virus pandemic to a fake PCR pandemic, or whether it has simply abrogated its statutory duty to govern, handing governance of the nation instead to a few mad scientists with their little charts, pointers and “R” numbers, is irrelevant. The fact remains that something utterly unprecedented, unconstitutional and unlawful is taking place, backed by a police force turned State militia and a propaganda narrative that simply doesn’t chime with reality.
    This insane business has to stop and I am shocked that you all people, a human rights lawyer, are participating in a programme that is so evidently contrary to the Charter on Human Rights.

    Our military fought and died in two World Wars to defend and uphold these precious rights and freedoms from the actions of aggressive totalitarian dictators bent on eradicating them. The least any of us can do today is fight by all legal and lawful means to prevent the evil being imposed now by stealth. We all have a right to freedom and prosperity and no government has the authority to snatch them away from us under any pretext whatsoever.

    In this regard, it is an established fact that nations and U.S. States which have rejected lockdown and severe restrictions on national life have fared no worse than those which have imposed the most draconian measures. That this evidence has been ignored and suppressed indicates appalling arrogance.

    Thankfully that arrogance will soon be brought to light as I understand that an international Class Action is being prepared by a group of lawyers with testimony from many eminent government, scientific, medical and law experts, demonstrating how this crisis has been manufactured and orchestrated to the great detriment of humanity.

    The case bundle for this action includes, but is by no means limited to, the testimonies of a science Nobel Laureate, a German government minister and the former Chief Scientist and Vice President of Pfizer. The lawyer leading the action is a top legal mind who has already successfully sued both Deutsche Bank and Volkswagen in separate tort actions.

    At the same time science professors, epidemiologists, virologists, doctors, judges and like experts are coming together from all over the world to highlight the fraudulence underpinning the Covid-19 pandemic and the unlawful nature of the consequent suspension of civil liberties, destruction of economies and ruination of millions of human lives, not least the tens of thousands dying from real health issues as urgent medical testing and treatment for their conditions is suspended or delayed.
    In fine, the truth has a habit of surfacing despite attempts to suppress it on the part of those in authority who think themselves immune from justice. When this one blows it will send many petty politicians in this world tumbling to infamy.

    For your reflection I conclude with the following facts: The Asian Flu of the late 1960s killed 85,000 in the UK, twice the number of supposed Covid-19 deaths. At the turn of the 20th century 100 million died globally of Spanish Flu, one hundred times the death rate of Covid-19. In the U.S. the death toll every year from various illnesses is around 3 million, three times the global death tally said to be related to Covid-19. Even in a bad seasonal flu year the death toll can reach close to the present relatively low Covid-19 global death number. That’s why top experts, including Sir Chris Whitty, have stated that this virus is harmless for the majority of people – 99.79% of the global population to be precise.

    With the official Scottish Covid death percentage presently standing at 0.05% of the population, mostly elderly people locked down in care homes, it can easily be shown that more citizens are dying in the country from medical neglect and suicide than the fabricated plague. This and other irrefutable evidence is what a court will have presented to it against the propaganda. Politicians may lie, statistics do not!

    The SNP government must be prepared to answer for its actions, explaining why it has used public health as a pretext to destroy public health.

    Sincerely

    • Athanasius,

      That’s another brilliant letter from you.

      I hope you will tell us when you get a reply (if you get a reply!)

      • Josephine

        I will be happy to report back on any response, though I very much doubt I will recieve one. Who knows, he may send the Chief Constable or one of the lower ranks State Militia personnel to answer me in person!!

    • Athanasius

      Brilliant letter Athanasius, sorry to read about your brother and thank you for your relentless campaign against this nightmare.

      The Mail online surprisingly admitted that because of the ‘Lockdowns’ an estimated “further 26,000 will lose their lives within a year if people continue to stay away from A&E and the problems in social care persist. And an additional 31,900 could die over the next five years as a result of missed cancer diagnoses, cancelled operations and the health impacts of a recession.”

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8774141/Coronavirus-UK-Lockdown-kill-75-000-thats-OFFICIAL-projection.html

      The World Health Organisation is now panicking (presumably because of the threat of Legal actions that are being prepared against them possibly) they are now saying don’t do ‘Lockdowns!’ This clip was downloaded on an earlier thread by RCA Victor (I think)

      So what does the member of ‘The Bilderberg Group’ and ‘Labour Leader’ Keir Starmer push for? A three week Lockdown!

      We have no opposition in this country, just traitors controlled by the Bilderberg Group it seems. So Parliament is pushing for the global ‘Reset’ and the deliberate crashing of the economy, mask wearing and deaths due to ‘Lockdowns’.

      Sadly I came across this article about the “Masks” causing irreversible brain damage” apparently children amongst others are very much affected, see link below

      http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=214917

      When are parents going to wake up to what these criminals are doing to our children? Who will remind the Nurses who try to come into the School to administer any Vaccine, that they will be sued personally and the Government for any compliance with this Satanic agenda.

      More and more people are now coming forward and revealing how this scamdemic “Second Wave” has been faked on the False-Positive COVID Tests.

      https://thehuntingtonian.com/2020/10/06/chief-science-officer-for-pfizer-says-second-wave-faked-on-false-positive-covid-tests-pandemic-is-over/

      • Francescomarta

        Thank you.

        The problem with the Daily Mail and, sadly, Fox News, is that they seem to sit in the middle of the road on this fake pandemic instead of using their platforms to dismantle the lies of government and discredited scientists with the facts. There’s actually no known public outlet standing up for truth and freedom here, they’re all into some sort of acceptance that there’s a plague of some kind. Not one public media platform, for example, has spoken of the tort case being prepared by the german lawyer. I mean, this is huge news, a massive revelation, yet not a word. That cannot be accidental, there’s persuasion going on somewhere behind the scenes.

        I suspect the only way this is going to end is if God intervenes. I was kind of hoping today, October 13, would bring some positive news on that front, but nothing. Oh well, in God’s good time.

    • Athanasius,

      A great letter, very informative contents – thank you for that.

      (I was surprised to learn Humza Yousef has a background in law – I thought he was one of those in the mould of Sturgeon, straight from education to parliament with no work or life experience in between!).

      I am sorry to hear of how this farcical situation has affected your own and your brothers employment – hopefully things will improve soon on that front. I will make that a prayer intention.

      This is the real human cost of the absurd restrictions, which politicians seem insulated from and complacent about.

        • Littlecharie,

          Sturgeon graduated in law, true, but her career was limited to less than a handful of years work before entering politics.

          That isn’t much to go on, in terms of work or life experience.

          Personally I think any candidate for parliament should be able to show at least 20 years work experience in the private sector.

      • Gabriel Syme

        Thank you for your kind comment and promise of prayers, which are very much appreciated at this time.

        I think right now there is a feeling of helplessness beginning to settle in – it seems the politicians, the media, the Church hierarchy, etc., are just oblivious now to any sense of justice, human or divine, the corruption is so complete and absolute.

        Here’s Pope Francis writing his Tutti Frutti screed about universal brotherhood while he and his bishops assist the universal Masonic brotherhood in its plot to rob millions of their livlihood while casting millions more into extreme poverty through the Covid-19 scam. The hypocrisy is breathtaking.

        As I said earlier, it looks like the only way this will end now is by divine intervention. While I have lost all hope of decency at the higher levels of Church and State, I am still very much a believer that God will repay in due course.

  6. I like this imaginative protest by hospitality workers in Glasgow – they dumped ice right outside the City Chambers at George Square

      • RCA Victor,

        I see that all the time. The same people who acknowledge privately (e.g. in supermarkets) that there is something wrong with the whole thing, wear masks.

        As long as people go along with this nonsense at any level, they’ll keep us under surveillance. For, that is what they are doing. Keeping a watchful eye on us, make no mistake about it.

    • Editor

      The deaths, like the infections, are fabricated lies. These will be poor souls who died from other causes but have been marked up as Covid-19 fatalities. No post mortams to prove the case, however, because they were clever enough to suspend them in order to push the sleight of hand.

  7. The next step will be the Covid-19 Vaccine. A rhetorical question – just how well will it be manufactured and tested? I would not trust it and do not want to be on the receiving end. But the chances are we see the Imposition of Compulsory Vaccination with a Biometric Health Passport?

    Good way of keeping track of people. And, without this vaccine people will not be allowed to access medical treatment, enter banks or shops and more.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-covid-19-vaccine-the-imposition-of-compulsory-vaccination-with-a-biometric-health-passport/5720163

    What a Godless and atheistic society it will be.

    • Gabriel Syme,

      LOL! That’s funny! The link is just to a load of letters and numbers, though.

      I found this interview on TalkRadio this morning very interesting, about Starmer asking for a circuit breaker lockdown.

      • Lily

        Unbelievable interview, how sad Iain Duncan Smith (IDS) has become as a politician. We no longer live in a democracy, but a Government by decree. Professor Jonathan Van-Tam says we have reached a tipping point and it’s as bad as last March. Does Iain Duncan Smith scrutinise this statement, or query how the patient’s diagnosis have been done as the PCR test is totally unsuitable to be used as a diagnostic tool and as the “Coronavirus” symptoms list seems to increase daily, there is no gold standard to detect a Virus that was never isolated!

        The Government controlled media says things like “Covid Cases rise by 40%.” IDS seems to argue from such headlines. In other words his whole argument is nonsense. He never goes deeper, although he does mention ‘anti virals’ but again he avoids the subject of Vaccines and Vaccine passports that are certainly on the way. IDS fails to mention the push on the cashless society (virus lives on bank notes for weeks a new study claims) and the scare tactics used to discourage the use of cash.

        The ‘buzz phrase’ now seems to be “circuit breaker,” instead of “flatten the curve” – what a joke. To give IDS his due he does rubbish this, however you can be sure that he knows how useless and dangerous wearing masks are, especially for children, but says nothing. Very disappointing interview and if this is what we have in Parliament at the moment, it is not looking too good. Another compromised Catholic” toeing the line.

        More information on masks given by Dr. Lee Merrick

        • Francescomarta and Lily,

          I agree – it seems IDS is aware up to a point, like so many others, but somehow the truth about this virus “crisis” isn’t really getting through to him.

          It’s almost impossible to get to these people – my increasing attitude is to dismiss them as deserving what is coming to them. Then I remember that it’s coming to me, as well and I start to think again, how can I waken up these politicians! And the same goes for broadcasters like Julia Hartley-Brewer. She is still one of the “I’m not a conspiracy theorist” brigade, not yet realising that there’s a conspiracy, all right, but it’s no theory. I tell you, whoever juxtaposed those two words (conspiracy and theory) has managed to suppress all sorts of information and the truth about so many things, including this virus, getting out and about. Well, the virus is out and about, but you’ll know what I mean 😀

          As for getting the truth out there, all ideas welcome!

          PS – I see there are new restrictions in England, Wales and N. Ireland but not Scotland. Here’s hoping Mzzz Sturgeon is not waiting to pounce after what feels like an ominous silence! The Wales rule about nobody being allowed into the country from other infected places, or whatever it is, puzzles me. How on earth are they going to enforce that? Presumably, there will be VBPs (Virus Border Police) or VBM (Virus Border Marshalls) to stop cars as they enter Wales… or what? Signed, Puzzled Tourist…

  8. This is something I keep meaning to ask but keep forgetting.

    How is it possible to have the virus but not have any symptoms?

    I thought there was a list of symptoms?

    Also, is there any other illness that you can have but don’t get symptoms?

    • Josephine

      This is the big lie and their getting away with it unchallenged. if a person is asymptomatic (no symptoms) yet tests positive for a virus, then it’s most likely the test result is wrong. An asymptomatic person is not sick and certainly not contageous, so say the scientists. That truth doesn’t seem to matter to Johnson and Sturgeon, though. They just press on terrifying the nation with their daily criminal terror messages through the media about infection cases rising. They know they’re lying through their teeth but it allows them continued months of criminality against the people.

      • Athanasius,

        That’s what I thought. How can you be ill and not have symptoms. It’s ridiculous.

        That would mean we could all go to the doctor and say we just popped in, feeling fine and no symptoms of anything but can you give me a test for something, just in case! LOL!

        It’s amazing this is not being even noticed. I hear news people saying it all the time “asymptomatic” as if it makes sense. Nobody questions anything!

        It came to my mind tonight because there are news reports that Barron Trump had tested positive, but was asymptomatic! You’d think Donald Trump would be on to this.

        • Josephine & RCAVictor

          Imagine in normal times phoning your employer and saying that you had tested positive for a flu virus and although you weren’t sick you have decided to self isolate for two weeks. That would be a sacking on the spot, and rightly so. Humanity has lost its marbles, people can no longer see straight, the intellect has gone.

      • I have wondered about that as well. If you say to your employer or doctor that you think you have a cold or flu but no cough, no sniffles, no fever, nothing, he’d probably send you for psychological testing, LOL!

    • Josephine,

      In order to answer your first question you have to back up a bit.

      1. Currently, the only way to determine if anyone has the virus, without considering symptoms, is via a PCR test, which does not test for any disease and was never meant to be a diagnostic tool. In other words, a determination does not exist. The PCR test only looks for antibodies to infections you’ve already had, including the common cold (which is a coronavirus). This “test” is the centerpiece of the scam.

      2. However, if one compares actual symptoms with flu symptoms, then the virus is a relatively mild form of the flu, with identical or very similar symptoms. Beyond its similarity to the flu, no disease has ever been correctly isolated, so that’s all one can say about it, without wandering off into pseudo-science and fake data.

      In short, when one “has the virus” with symptoms, one doesn’t really know exactly what one has, except that it feels like a flu. So no one should allow the pseudo-scientists and their group-think medical bureaucracy to tell them that they have the virus – especially if there are no symptoms.

      3. If a doctor tells you that you have the virus but no symptoms, he is a quack and you should sue him, because there is no such thing as a flu without symptoms (the so-called “asymptomatic” PCR test result). If you have no symptoms, then you’re not sick, despite what the medical quackship decrees.

      4. If he tells you that you have the virus, and you have symptoms, then ask him when and by what means an actual disease has ever been isolated. If he gives you an honest answer (“no disease has ever been identified”), then ask him why the “authorities” don’t just call it the flu!

      5. There are, however, several diseases that have no symptoms, which you can google for (but don’t use google). Here’s one list:

      https://www.onlymyhealth.com/health-slideshow/7-diseases-with-no-symptoms-1415697820.html

      • RCA Victor,

        I don’t think this Covid virus is “mild”. I’ve only known one person who thinks he had it in December 2019 (before all the publicity) – a young relative of mine who had what was described at the time as a “vicious flu”. He went undiagnosed but he was extremely ill for two weeks and says he really thought he was going to die. When he eventually got to the doctor’s surgery, he was briefly examined by a nurse who more or less shrugged her shoulders and diagnosed a bad dose of flu.

        The list you posted of “illnesses with no symptoms” (some of them did have symptoms, but are described as “vague” or not showing at an early stage) is interesting, but the key point here is that although there may be some people without symptoms who turn out to be ill with a particular disease, that’s a bit different from giving a list of symptoms for a particular flu (Coronavirus) and then saying that people may be infected without showing the symptoms.

        I can’t imagine going to see my GP in the scenario described by Josephine (feeling fine but can you test me for something, anyway?!) I mean, I’ve got a great doctor, very understanding but – certainly in saner times – he would most likely have shown me the door!

  9. I’d say the modern medical profession (though with a growing number of exceptions), is doing a very good imitation of this guy:

    • RCAVictor

      Groucho and his brothers are among my all-time favourite comics. I love the Marx Brothers films, especially the ones with Margaret Dumont in them. I still remember that line Groucho threw at her in “A day at the races”. She was a rich horse-owning heiress and he was penniless. Dining with her he peeped over his menu and said “marry me and I’ll never look at another horse”! Absolutely priceless. I think that was the same film where he walked into a florist and chose the biggest flower bouquet in the shop, then told the shopkeeper to send it to her from him “and write ‘I love you’ on the back of the bill”. Brilliant stuff.

      • Athanasius,

        I love them as well, and I wish Groucho was still around so he could demolish political correctness. No Marxist could stand up to that Marx!

        (I also love Curly of the Three Stooges…what can I tell you, I’m still a blue-collar guy at heart.)

    • Athanasius,

      I remember that one! But not because I watched it when it was aired….that honor might go to Editor though….

      I wish there were more of those old Friars Club roasts – I’ve only come across 2 or 3 of them on YouTube, including a roast of Ed Sullivan. They were the prototype for the Dean Martin roasts in the 70s.

      One of the things that struck me about these old groups of comedians was that they all seemed to love each other and esteem each other’s work. So their ruthless insults were not taken as such, but as compliments and expressions of friendship.

      These videos are relics of an America long dead and gone, buried by leftists who replaced fraternal esteem and humor with the iron curtain of political correctness. I’m tempted to call that era the end of America’s age of innocence, but that would be self-deception. The innocence was only a public veneer, hiding private sordid behavior.

      Thanks so much for posting that…

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