Contrived Coronavirus Crisis: Has UK Population Drifted into a Police State?

Police forces are planning their own contact tracing system over concerns the government’s test and trace scheme could place officers in danger, Sky News has learned.

Under the plans, police officers who test positive for COVID-19 would not give their contacts to NHS contact tracers, but would instead inform their police force who would take over contact tracing to identify anyone at risk of catching the virus.

The plans, which are being developed by the Police Federation and the National Police Chiefs’ Council, could see police forces take over all contact tracing for police officers and staff, according to a source close to the matter…   

Public health experts said the news raised questions about the entire test and trace system, which is being run by a collection of private companies overseen by PHE. [Public Health England]. 

“Contact tracing systems are based on trust,” said Allyson Pollock, director of Newcastle University’s Institute of Health and Society. “This tells you that the police don’t trust the system and don’t believe data will not be shared more widely, not just with the call handlers but the whole system.

“I think the public needs to be asking very serious questions about this.”   Source – Sky News

Comment: 

The key “serious question” here is, clearly – have we, by being so compliant with the lockdown regulations, drifted into accepting a full blown police state?  Is this latest development in the contrived [check the statistics] Coronavirus “crisis” merely evidence that we are now, effectively, living in a police state?   While, at this stage, this is supposedly about the police tracing people with whom they have been in contact – a restricted level of contact tracing – it’s not difficult to see how easily this could be extended. If contact tracing is already in the hands of private companies, as revealed above, what’s to prevent the current limited police powers being extended?  These days, anything is possible.  I mean, who would have imagined just six months ago, that the entire countries of the UK (and, indeed, the entire world) would be forced to live under the current lockdown restrictions, with the loss of our civil and religious freedoms?  

In which case, the concept of being suspected of a crime being the prerequisite  to “becoming known to the police” would be a thing of the past.  We’d just need to have been ill or physically in the presence of someone who had the virus.  If we accept this without a murmur, we can say “goodbye” permanently to our freedom to practice our religion.

And it’s all very well Allyson Pollock saying the public needs to be asking very serious questions about this – but how? Who do we ask? We can’t organise meetings due to the lockdown rules, we have been silenced and required to obey the State.  There is no dissent from the “new normal” permitted because the news broadcasters have become an arm of the State. Even in supermarkets we have to obey rules designed to keep communication with others at a minimum  – “stand here until the person in front moves forward” … It’s all very sinister.

So, share your thoughts – have we drifted into a full-blown police state?   

53 responses

  1. Editor

    I just posted this on a old thread and realised you have a new one on ‘drifted into police state.’ So I have reposted it here as I think that we have not drifted into a police state, but have been deliberately pushed into a police state.

    I’m afraid Boris might be dumping one lot of experts, but look who he has brought in to fill the gap!!!! SEE LINK BELOW and note the praise he gives to Bill & Melinda Gates in the video clip.

    https://sputniknews.com/world/202006041079515066-boris-johnson-and-bill-gates-deliver-addresses-at-online-global-vaccine-summit—video/

    They have just made it compulsory to wear a mask if you travel by bus, train or tube here in England. This new rule starts from the 15th June and you will be fined £80 if you are found not wearing one. The ruling gives Boris time to get the ‘tracing app and tracers’ ready for the next stage. I’m guessing that by September/October the rule might change to ‘you don’t have to wear the mask if you have the app.’ Then next year you will not be allowed to go into a shopping mall/supermarket unless you have the ‘app’ (and so on). So this mask wearing rule is slowly shepherding the sheep in the direction of total control.

    • Francescomarta,

      I don’t have time right now to read your link, but will do asap.

      Just want to clear up one thing. My point is not that the Governments are drifting into a police state – clearly this is all planned, and as you intimate, being carefully rolled out. I think though, that the people are drifting, still fooled by the virus propaganda.

      Nicola Stalin (as a friend calls her and as she is persistently showing herself to be) is now on record as saying that if we don’t keep the rule about staying outdoors, not indoors with friends, she will make it law.

      She is a born-tyrant. Yet her fans love her. They do not see anything sinister in any of this – they regard it as “strong leadership”.

      That you don’t get a stronger leader than Kim Jong-un hasn’t dawned on them yet. Even with the warning sign that he supported the 2014 independence referendum. As a [now retired] teacher, I’ve seen some slow learners in my time, but the population of Scotland really does take the biscuit.

  2. How many threads are you going to have on the subject but you’re unwilling to do anything yourself to stop sleepwalking into this? Sitting about typing on our computers won’t help? Why not organise something????!!!

    • Conscientious Objector,

      Like what? Organise a protest? How many people, do you think, would be willing to risk fines (or prison for not paying fines) for breaking lockdown rules – I’m assuming we wouldn’t get permission for a legal protest, which would, of course, include a protest at the removal of our religious freedom (although how many clergy would turn up is anybody’s guess. Mine is a single figure…)

      We’re already trying to work out the best way to organise a public rosary – because, ultimately, it is prayer that will bring this whole nightmare to an end. Specifically, the prayer of the Consecration of Russia, by Pope and Bishops, but, in the meantime, our pleas for help to Heaven via the Rosary would be beneficial, no question about it.

      We were told by Sr Lucia that the Rosary has been given a special efficacy for these times – now we know why.

      Don’t under-estimate the value of the commentaries on this blog – I have it on very good authority that the documentary evidence posted here about this entire scan has alerted many people who would otherwise have remained fooled by the propaganda. It’s a small contribution, I accept, but it is important that people are alerted to what is going on… So spread the blog address around. The internet is about all we have at the moment – and they’d love to remove that source of information as well, and may do so before long. Don’t make the mistake of thinking these discussions are a waste of time. Be assured, they are not.

      And God is watching, too, remember – He wants us to make all the effort we can to defeat the goal of atheistic Communism, which is, of course, to dominate and rule the world. No thanks!

      • Editor,

        Not that it’s any of my business but maybe Conscientious Objector is “that troll”. Anyone without an avatar is a suspect, in my book! LOL!

  3. If anything shows the demonic nature of what is going on, it’s the way the news today is dominated by the new rule about having to wear face masks on public transport and the £80 fine for not doing so. This is in England but it will come here as well, as sure as day follows night.

    The “experts” told us clearly and often that face masks are not necessary in the wider population yet now we’re to be fined for not wearing one?

    Do people need something in neon lights to waken them out of their stupor?

  4. I think some are drifting, others are sleepwalking, and other are happily jogging into the police state long prepared for them, proudly wearing their masks as a form of virtue-signaling. Lemmings – and the Pied Piper is Lucifer himself.

    As for Allyson Pollock’s comment that “Contact tracing systems are based on trust,” well sorry, Allyson, if you really believe that, then you’ve been sitting at your computer too long. Contact tracing is based on controlling and surveilling the population, their whereabouts, their networks and affiliations, their health data, their “suspicious” activity. It is based precisely on lack of trust of we, the people, by the ruling elites.

    I posted a while ago some observations about how many of the evils active in the modern world were birthed in England, like Freemasonry, fractional reserve banking, modern occultism, etc. The other night I discovered another thing to add to my list: forced vaccination also originated in England, early in the 19th century I believe, in a city called Leicester (pronounced “Leister”?). The vaccine was for smallpox, a vaccine which resulted in much higher fatalities than among those who refused/did not take the vaccine. This also resulted, thankfully, in the appearance of the anti-vaccine movement.

    As for face-mask wearers, I doubt this will put a dent in their virtue-signaling, but here it is:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/who-no-need-for-healthy-people-to-wear-face-masks-2020-4

    • RCA Victor,

      We’ve another numpty troll hilariously posing as a doctor from the WHO in my admin file, sneering that your report (link) is “two months out of date”.

      Completely, of course, missing the point that we are being slowly if NOT too surely, moved towards being totally controlled.

      Some people are missing the point that we are being told one thing one minute and the opposite thing the next minute. Or one thing in April, and the opposite in June. Get it now, er… “Doctor”?

      What was that I was saying about slow learners?

      • Editor,

        Are we to understand that this is the usual troll, now posting as WHO doctor?

        That’s hilarious, right enough.

      • Editor,

        What they say when they do these about-turns is that we are learning all the time about this new virus! Remember, when it was obvious that it was nothing more than a very bad flu, under the Coronavirus umbrella of flu viruses, they started adding symptoms, LOL! Loss of sense of taste and smell (right, as like when your nose is stuffed up with cold!)

        It’s really beyond ridiculous, but the fact is, most people have fallen for it.

    • Crofterlady,

      Yes, a comment from me. It’s been obvious for a while that the powers-that-be don’t want this drug to be used – it would foil their vaccine plans. That’s my considered opinion.

    • Crofterlady,

      I agree – they definitely don’t want to use that drug because, for one thing, how would they know we were all taking it? Self-administered medicines will not be allowed. It will have to be the jab.

    • Crofterlady,

      Classic Communist tactic at work there: ridicule, smear and intimidate those who disagree with the party line, and/or expose the lies therein. As Josephine pointed out, the use of this drug would spoil their vaccine plans – i.e. billions more in potential profits for the ghoul calling himself Bill Gates, and many more deaths and sterilizations to reduce all that excess population, dontcha know.

  5. Black Lives Matter protest in Birmingham yesterday – whatever happened to social distancing?

    The Glasgow protest due to take place on Sunday has been moved from George Square to Glasgow Green to accommodate the thousands expected.

    Somebody mention a public rosary?

    • Michaela,

      Thank you for posting that. I saw a mention of it on the news, but that’s something else seeing the huge crowd NOT social distancing. What a joke this whole thing has become.

  6. Paul Smeaton, the London Correspondent for life Site News has delivered a petition with over 550,000 signatures to the British Government, saying NO mandatory vaccinations should imposed upon the population.

    I suspect the government will have nothing but contempt for this petition. Who knows what will come next.

    • Theresa Rose,

      Very interesting indeed – it should make a difference but I doubt that it will with Hancock still grinning through his “Half-Hour” – tonight he was struggling to keep up, had to ask one of the journalists to repeat his question.

      Still, it was every bit as entertaining as the original comedy Hancock’s Half-Hour – I bet you’re in the age group to remember that… me, only just 😀

        • Crofterlady,

          I had actually forgotten all about that comedy until Matt Hancock started delivering the daily Coronavirus updates. That’s what brought it back to my mind. One has to laugh, doesn’t one?!

  7. Mr. Paul Smeaton, LifeSite’s London correspondent, delivered the “No Mandatory Coronavirus Vaccine” to the Sec. of State for Health and Social Care, Matt Hancock, MP. The massive petition has a total of 572,000+ signatures, more than 58,000 of which come from the UK.

    All well and good, however today Matt Hancock announced that from June 15th masks will be mandatory for medical staff and other staff at all times. Visitors and outpatients attending appointments will not be allowed in without wearing mask coverings.

    I’m sure when the ‘COVID apps are well and truly running, this will suffice instead of the masks. They’re probably about to implement a scanner system that picks up the app as you walk in any shop or public Service. They will have to sort out problems for those who have no smart phones, especially amongst the elderly. But once its up and running It couldn’t be more easier. When Bill Gates gives Boris the vaccines, this too will be noted on your app and you have your pass into medical facilities such as visiting your GP or Hospital. This will take the stress out of this horrible disease.

    I’m sure Matt Hancock is smiling to himself at the signatures from the ‘No Mandatory Coronavirus Vaccine’ petition delivered by Paul Smeaton. He will just say “Vaccines will not compulsory, nobody has anything to worry about, but don’t expect access to any health care if it’s not noted on your app that the vaccine has been taken.”

  8. Here are a few more of “those and such as those” breaking the lockdown rules – with one very worrying reference to “testing eyesight” in relation to driving…

    Goodness, driving is difficult enough these days with so many nuts on the road, but now we’re being made aware that there may be a significant number of people out there driving for the purpose of testing their eyesight! Unbelievable. When I was learning to drive, we had to demonstrate before getting into the car that we could see! Why can’t these people just admit that what they actually don’t see, is the need for these daft rules in the first place!
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/tory-mp-attended-lockdown-barbecue-with-journalists/ar-BB155Yo1?ocid=spartan-dhp-feeds

    Gimme strength!

    • Editor

      Where is this “driving to test the eye sight” leading, I wonder? Surely not to new bumpy roads to accommodate driving by braile.

  9. Could not the government, relying upon the ‘Dunkirk spirit’ of the British people, have trusted us to observe the social distancing guidelines voluntarily, rather than coercing us by the force of law? I reckon people would have been more inclined to follow the guidelines had it been voluntary, such is human psychology.

    • Miles Immaculatae,

      The ordinary Joe Bloggs are slavishly following the guidelines – just stand too close to someone in a queue for a few seconds and see what happens, as you are ticked off, either by word or look.

      I do agree, though, that they should have simply told us about the virus, made their “wash your hands and sing Happy Birthday” etc suggestions and left us to it. We’re adults. We don’t need a nanny, let alone a Nanny State to look after us.

      But it’s not actually about looking after us. It’s about something else. Big time.

    • Liam Jenkinson,

      Disgraceful notice – even a “diocesan official” to inspect the churches to decide if they are suitable for re-opening ! We can see how power corrupts, can’t we?

      As for “what kind of people do they think we are?”

      Answer: as faithless as they are.

      .

      • I am staggered by this. Ten minutes only allowed. No over 70’s allowed? I was so looking forward to the churches re opening but not under these conditions. It is just so depressing.

  10. 2 interesting articles from the Telegraph:

    Was Covid-19 created in a lab? China has some urgent questions to answer
    Given the regime’s history of lying, we should take seriously the theory that the virus may be man-made

    Charles Moore. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/05/covid-19-created-lab-china-has-urgent-questions-answer/

    In his interview with this paper’s Allison Pearson on Thursday, Sir Richard Dearlove, the former head of MI6, said: “The Chinese understand us extremely well. We understand them extremely poorly.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/03/listen-former-head-mi6-believes-pandemic-started-accident/ Planet Normal
    This is important and true. Since Deng Xiaoping first moved his country away from Maoism in 1978, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) – which wholly runs China – has studied the West deeply. It wants to copy it, get rich from it and, by the middle of this century at the latest, beat it.

    It has done this through commerce, finance, property, science, cultural links, Western universities, and by cyber-penetration and spying. Its work has been consistent, intense and purposeful. Our response has mostly been credulous, lazy and greedy. I would guess that for every one Westerner who has troubled to learn Mandarin, there are 10,000 Chinese people who have learnt good English.

    As a result, we barely noticed the ominous change of pace and tone which came with Xi Jinping’s rise to power in 2012. Thanks to Covid-19, and the ensuing nearly 400,000 deaths worldwide, we have noticed now.

    In the past couple of weeks, our Government – having been slower than the United States and Australia – has at last begun to move. It is now turning against Huawei’s involvement in our 5G future. It has focused on the plight of the people of Hong Kong, boldly promising them a “path to citizenship” because China has broken the Sino-British Agreement of 1984 which is supposed to protect them until 2047. But there is so much more that needs understanding, and so little time left.

    Sir Richard’s interview chiefly concerned a new learned paper about the hunt for a Covid-19 vaccine, written by distinguished scientists, the vaccinologist, Birger Sorensen, and the immunologist, Angus Dalgleish, in the Quarterly Review of Biophysics Discovery. Having first held back the news of the disease, the CCP finally made it public towards the end of January. Sir Richard’s intelligence-service mind made him suspicious about the speed with which the Chinese then rushed out a series of publications fixing guilt on pangolins and bats. So he is interested in the Sorensen/Dalgleish theory.

    Obviously, you cannot get the right vaccine without knowing the nature of the virus. This lack of full knowledge explains the failure of vaccines so far. In the authors’ view, the virus they are trying to vaccinate against is what scientists call a chimera – in this case, as Dr Sorensen put it to me, “constructed in such a way that it can make use of co-receptors on human epithelial cells”. Another way of putting it is that it was built by human beings to see how infectious it could be to human beings. This does not mean that the purpose was to make people ill – it was, rather, experimental – but it does, according to this theory, mean that it was created in a laboratory and is extremely dangerous.

    Dr Sorensen insists that “the world will be misled unless we can see the data that matters.” The Chinese authorities have “not revealed that data properly or correctly”. He is working on a follow-up paper to study in detail what data they gave us, and what they withheld.

    As you can imagine, the political consequences are big. If we know that China has not been straight with us about the virus, that would affect all our dealings with it. This may explain why the scientists had some difficulty getting an earlier version of their article published. The well-known magazine Nature was particularly sticky. It has published earlier work dismissing any idea of a lab-created virus. The magazine’s editor is on record giving extravagant praise to the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

    It is also noteworthy how quickly some people have rushed to slap down Sorensen /Dalgleish. One newspaper yesterday reported that Sir Richard’s former sister organisation, MI5 – which has neglected Chinese subversion in this country – had dismissed the chimera theory, saying the infection began in the Wuhan wet market. This was particularly odd since, in mid-May, the CCP publicly withdrew the wet-market explanation as the origin of the virus, perhaps because that line could no longer hold against mounting evidence.

    Given the danger of political polarisation, another learned article, just out, is helpful. In the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, a publication with a Left-wing character, Milton Leitenberg, a biological weapons expert, begins with a denunciation of Donald Trump and his allies for being “as notorious a gang of fabricators as will ever likely be recorded in American history”. In his lengthy review, however, of all the published data –­­ including data put up on Chinese websites and then removed by the CCP – he goes on to say that “the possibility of a laboratory escape of the pathogen was a plausible, if unproven, theory.” That theory was not invented by Trump.

    In 2015, Leitenberg continues, the Wuhan Institute of Virology “initiated construction of novel chimeric coronaviruses” and subsequently published on this. These were what are known as “gain of function” experiments to make a virus capable of infecting a new kind of cell. He also produces evidence about inadequate security at the two relevant labs in Wuhan, especially at the Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

    Quite separate work by Alina Chan and others at the Harvard/MIT Broad Institute, the leading genetic lab in the world, aligns with the argument that the virus is extraordinarily well pre-adapted to infect human beings.

    Putting this and other emerging work together, one can fairly say that China has scientifically well-founded questions to answer about the origin and nature of the virus. And fairly add that it has not been frank or honest so far. This is a matter not only of getting the history right, but also of life and death. Chinese concealment is hindering the search for a vaccine.

    If we did not expect such concealment, we do not understand the Chinese leadership.

    I said earlier that the CCP has worked earnestly for 40 years to understand us. One thing it has never understood, however, let alone liked, is our love of freedom and openness. To Chinese leaders, these things seem dangerous, even unpatriotic.

    So it has been a constant source of pain to them that a free entity, Hong Kong, exists – or should I say existed? – on their doorstep. Deng and his successors had the wit to see that the wealth of the former colony should not be destroyed; but they regarded all that stuff about free speech and emerging democracy as a form of subversion. Hence Xi’s attempt to impose a new national security law on the territory.

    The current CCP leaders hate the fact that those fighting for freedom in Hong Kong are overwhelmingly ethnic Chinese, so they have to assert that such people are stirred up by foreign interests. Their close study of past events – the weak reaction to the Tiananmen Square massacres 31 years ago this week, their entry into the World Trade Organisation without being made to observe the rules of free trade, our timidity about the Hong Kong protests last year, and British feebleness over Huawei just before Covid struck – all these have convinced them that we shall huff and puff a bit, and then let them get away with it.

    Perhaps they are right. Perhaps they understand us all too well. It will need the entire free world to prove them wrong.

    The Left’s silence over HSBC is deafening
    Where is the outrage over the bank’s support for the crushing of democracy in Hong Kong by Beijing?

    Douglas Murray. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/04/lefts-silence-hsbc-deafening/

    There is nothing quite like the fervour that erupts in British and European cities when the opportunity arises to bash America. Since the killing of George Floyd by a Minnesota policeman (now charged and in prison), there has been civil disobedience, killing and looting throughout the country. And, as ever when even one American does something reprehensible, a pile-on begins in countries including our own.

    Twice in one week we have had “Black Lives Matter” protests in London that have resulted in attacks on British policemen and vandalism of our national monuments. And as always when it comes to protests against America, consistency is the first thing to go. The same BBC that was so intent on shaming sunbathers during lockdown seems to have no especial problem with these mass gatherings. Indeed, it has joyfully joined in what it evidently sees as yet another opportunity to bash Donald Trump.

    Of course in among this are people who have genuinely strong feelings about policing in America. But many others are doing something cynical and opportunistic. Take the Scottish Nationalist MP Alison Thewlis, who yesterday in Parliament tried to conflate events in America with the actions of the British Government. Fortunately, Kemi Badenoch – who was at the dispatch box – batted back the absurd Mrs Thewlis, rightly accusing her of doing little more than grandstanding for social media likes, which is essentially all that Left-wing activism amounts to these days. As Mrs Badenoch rightly said, “This is one of the best countries in the world to be a black person.”

    But most sickening of all are the double standards at play. The same people who have spent recent days screaming with rage about America because of the actions of one policeman have been silent – utterly silent – about the horrors being perpetrated for years by the Chinese Communist Party. The imprisonment of a million Uighur Muslims in concentration camps has brought no such protests onto the streets. Nor has that same regime’s outrageous crushing of dissent in Hong Kong.

    Just this week we have seen the snuffing out of the last elements of democracy in the former British territory, with the passing of a new national security law over the heads of the people of Hong Kong. And not only is there silence about this, but people who should know better are actually going along with it.

    Yesterday, the British bank HSBC actually gave succour to Beijing by backing the new law. Its Asia-Pacific boss signed a petition in favour of the change, while on a social media post the bank cravenly said that “it respects and supports all laws that stabilise Hong Kong’s social order”. If Left-wing protesters in Britain cared about civil and human rights, a much better target than the policemen outside Downing Street would be every HSBC bank in the country.

    Who has even started a campaign? During the apartheid era in South Africa, there was a massive boycott of Barclays Bank in this country because of its business dealings with the apartheid regime. You were nobody on the Left unless you supported it. Why should HSBC not be put under similar pressure for its support to the totalitarian regime in Beijing?

    But the Left has been utterly silent on this matter, as they have been throughout the corona pandemic on the Chinese regime’s cover-ups that led to everyone apart from the Westminster protesters being locked in our houses. There is a reason, which is that the Left across the West are utterly uninterested in human rights abuses unless they have been carried out by an American (or an Israeli, for which they also blame America). People will say that this is just a reaction to President Trump. It isn’t. The same thing has occurred under every recent American president. Black Lives Matter first protested in London during the Obama presidency.

    Of course America could be better. All of us could be. But if you want to see the true sickness at the heart of the modern Left, it can be found in a movement that is obsessed with every American sin and blithely unbothered by the rest of the world.

    Douglas Murray’s most recent book is ‘The Madness of Crowds: Gender, Race and Identity’

    • Crofterlady,

      That’s quite some read but well worth the time.

      I had to extract this paragraph, though, because it is absolutely true about the disgraceful BBC bias – they really are a brainless bunch:

      “Twice in one week we have had “Black Lives Matter” protests in London that have resulted in attacks on British policemen and vandalism of our national monuments. And as always when it comes to protests against America, consistency is the first thing to go. The same BBC that was so intent on shaming sunbathers during lockdown seems to have no especial problem with these mass gatherings. Indeed, it has joyfully joined in what it evidently sees as yet another opportunity to bash Donald Trump.”

      That is so laughably true! They just don’t think, do they, they don’t realise that they look so foolish with their contradictory reports.

    • Crofterlady,

      Steven Mosher of the Population Research Institute (which refutes all Malthusian overpopulation lies) pegged this virus, right from the beginning, as a product of Chinese biowarfare labs – using materials, in fact, stolen from an American and Canadian lab!

      We are living in the middle of a horror movie – because, as Abp. Lefebvre pointed out, the wolves in clerical garb have uncrowned Our Lord at Vatican II, buried the Third Secret, and failed to perform the Consecration of Russia.

  11. I need to correct something I wrote earlier on another thread (though I risk losing several zeroes of my paycheck for not remembering which one…). I previously made a big stink about Pope Francis using the word “entrust” rather than “consecrate,” and pointed out that “entrust” has a purely secular meaning.

    Imagine my chagrin, therefore, when Pius XII’s “Consecration of the World to the Immaculate Heart” was read this morning after First Saturday Mass, and I heard this:

    Queen of the Holy Rosary,
    Help of the Christians,
    Refuge of the human race,
    Conqueress in God’s battlefields,
    To You and to Your Immaculate Heart
    In this tragic hour of human history
    We entrust and consecrate ourselves,
    And the Holy Church….etc.

    I did notice, though, that “entrust” was used in conjunction with “consecrate.” So… sorry, Pope Francis: you did say something Catholic for once…

    • RCA Victor,

      I think there IS a difference between consecrate and entrust. Yes, you could use both in the same sentence, as did Pius XII, but think of it this way: a mother might entrust her baby to a relative or friends to look after for a few hours. But if she wants the baby consecrated then she needs a priest and although he might add the word “entrust” he wouldn’t replace the term consecrate. To consecrate is to specifically set aside for God’s service. Entrust is just what it says (on the tin as they say these days)

      I may entrust you to Our Lady’s care (in my unworthy prayers) but I wouldn’t consecrate you without at least telling you first! Does that make sense?

    • RCA Victor,

      I forgot to say, in my original reply to you, that I need to correct something I said about this “consecrate” vs “entrust” business. I can’t remember where we had that discussion. On a quick skim, I couldn’t find it, and since my personal motto is “if at first you don’t succeed, forget about it”, I just gave up!

      Correction

      In offering an analogy, I made a remark to the effect that someone could entrust their child to a friend for a few hours, but if they wanted to consecrate her/him, they would need a priest.

      That’s not in fact the case. Ideally, of course, we should ask a priest but I remember in one emergency situation, faced with the possible/likely death of a new-born baby, that baby was consecrated to Our Lady by a lay person, a relative, who prayed words to the effect that, “as far as in me lies the power, I consecrate this baby to you”.

      So, I don’t think a priest would be essential, not least since we’re all encouraged to pray the Consecration to Our Lady by St Louis Marie De Montfort.

      If anyone can remember where this discussion took place originally, I’ll go there and post a link to these corrections. If not, the first time someone comes on with a “Gotcha!” comment, we can reply, “no, YOU Gotcha!” … or something like that 😀

  12. People are drifting into a Police State, still fooled by the virus propaganda, however there have been good signs that a percentage are waking up. For the second time in about two weeks the BBC have done a PR job for Bill and Melinda Gates. The BBC’s expert concludes the public believe such lies about these two healthcare philanthropists because the public are “psychologically vulnerable.” The BBC showed a ‘cute’ photo of the two wearing sweaters sitting on a settee. The BBC give examples of misinformation and lies about the two saints (who have named one of their vaccines after Lucifer called ‘Luciferase.’) They do not investigate the bad reaction caused by these vaccines in these countries which did happen and their were deaths attributed to their vaccines. The BBC concentrated on the exaggerated numbers of deaths caused by the Bill Gates Foundation, pointed out about a non existent warrant in India should he arrive.

    Robert Kennedy Jnr has not received money from Bill Gates Foundation unlike the BBC and its interesting what Kennedy says about the Bill Gates Foundation and its ‘India horror Experimentation’ on Children’s health.

    https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/04/robert-f-kennedy-jr-exposes-bill-gates-vaccine-dictatorship-plan-cites-gates-twisted-messiah-complex/

    No mention of the Italian parliament MP calling for Bill Gates arrest if he should enter their country for crimes against humanity and why this Italian MP wanted this action taken etc.

    Thankfully we have seen good information on CTS from various catholic YOUTUBERS such as Dr Taylor Marshall, Michael Voris and co. The tentacles of the Bill Gates foundation money hasn’t reached these people yet and its not just the BBC who have received millions from Bill Gates Foundation SEE LINK BELOW

    I hope someone will publish an interim study/projection on the deaths of people who have died of cancer, heart disease, suicides and countless other causes because of the lockdown and hospitals being shut. I know its not easy at this time with the media concentrating on scare stories and defending Bill Gates. Plenty of theories on COVID – 19 from the media, but silence in this area of health.

    Also how many people will die as a direct/or indirect cause of wearing a face mask all day. They censor this information so much on the internet, I could only find a copy of a copy on YOUTUBE ( See link below regarding the dangers of MASK WEARING before this too is censored.)

    • It’s ludicrous. We can’t yet even go to Confession, and we can’t even enter the Churches, even if just for private prayer before the Blessed Sacrament. But I don’t blame the government for this. The bishops of Scotland, and England & Wales should have lobbied the government for recognition as an essential service, and for dioceses to govern themselves according to their own common sense. But if Damian Thompson is to be believed, and I can well believe it, the bishops asked of the government to have the churches closed! God is using bad clergy and hierarchs to chastise us. I fear bad clergy and hierarchs far more than I fear police states and authoritarian governments!

  13. The government has proposed a suspension of Sunday trading laws in England and Wales, and you can expect Scotland to follow suit, which means we are all now being encouraged to become sabbath breakers. Our Lady of La Salette had something to say about those who profane the Lord’s day. Apparently it’s being done to help the economy. I suspect it’s really love of Mammon. There are better ways of nurturing the economy, such as not imposing national quarantine on the healthy!

  14. Francescomarta,

    Will check the video later but I am infuriated at the news that we are being told to wear masks. The WHO is obviously the single most unreliable and ignorant health “expert” on the planet. What an about-turn from “masks are no use” to “everyone needs to wear one”.

    If they make us buy them up here, I will also buy a marker pen and write an unmistakeable message across it, indicating what I think of the whole lockdown/virus nonsense. One of the daftest ever paper reviewers on the BBC last night (first I’ve seen it in a while and it was so entertaining I’m going to try to tune in more often) – anyone some idiot called Maya Goodfellow, was truly jaw-dropping with her beliefs about this virus, which she describes as “catastrophic” and obviously doesn’t want the lockdown to end. I’m a bad judge of age, a young woman but clearly let out of primary school much too soon.

  15. Editor

    I need to correct something I wrote earlier on another thread, that Bill Gates called a vaccine Luciferase, it was actually a enzyme in the vaccine called Luciferase. You never know since the BBC seem to be the public relations for Bill and Melinda in the UK, (lets face it they paid them enough) the sad BBC might say “Vaccine named Luciferase is a lie”! This is the BBC’s only way of defending them at the moment, the BBC certainly won’t be investigating them that for sure.

    Click to access luciferase.pdf

    Catherine and Miles Immaculate are right, we can’t have public mass, go to confession and gather for rosaries in Glasgow Green. Its all about power with people like Livingston, Boris, Nicola and Co, no logic. The media usually publicly shames anti lockdown protesters saying that they are ‘spreading the disease and killing granny.’ I remember a week or so ago plenty of people sunbathed on the beach in Weston-Super- Mare. The following day the Hospital in Weston was shut because they said there was a spike in the corona virus – yerr right. It strange how with all this protesting going on we have no spikes.

  16. Francescomarta.

    Thank you for correcting that mistake.

    I’ve been trying to post a link without success. It’s a leaflet which I produced on request from a young reader to give to people when she meets those who are questioning the lockdown. I thought I’d post it in case others want to use it. Very inexpensive, with discount for all Catholic Truth bloggers!

    It just won’t post here for some reason but the link is posted on the newsletter page at our website, for those who would like to take a look. It’s definitely linked there and it does print out, so this is very much a WordPress puzzle. Another one.

    At least our newsletter page is posting – here it is…
    http://www.catholictruthscotland.com/newsletter.html

    • Editor

      Thanks for that link and it’s a great idea!

      Just wanted to post a further correction to what the man is saying on the Video titled “Covid 19 and the Bill Gates Vaccine”. He praises the virtues of Vaccinations and the positive affect they had on Polio, that is very much in dispute.

      On the link below Dr Kaufman speaks on the dangers of Vaccines and also mentions Polio (1hr in) but very informative video on all the poisons put out there to cause us harm and what we can do about it.

      https://gloria.tv/post/i23t6cVGxLaP6USFFFkYPYH6P

      Please also see article of Children who died after being Vaccinated. There are lots of articles also on this Web-Site about the dangers of Vaccinations

      https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/the-bill-gates-effect-whos-dtp-vaccine-kills-more-children-in-africa-than-the-diseases-it-targets/

      childrenshealthdefense.org/about-us/mercury-vaccines-cdcs-worst-nightmare/

      Another Video shows that by the time American Children go to school they will have had 52 Vaccines, “Children are being destroyed by Vaccines”

      I know this is a lot of information, but I feel we need to get this all out before it is all Censored

  17. The population is drifting into a police state, blissfully unaware that the end game is all about Mandatory Vaccines and population control (depopulation is the real term).

    I found another good article about health implications to mask wearing.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/05/no_author/neurosurgeon-explains-how-masks-pose-serious-risks-to-the-healthy/

    I suggest we should all write to our MP to protest about the Lockdown and the Mandatory Mask Wearing, as nothing else seems to be happening and the Police State is getting more and more entrenched daily.

    • Francescomarta,

      I think you’re right about contacting our MP – I haven’t done so for a good while because he is an SNP MP = useless.

      It’s still important to write, so that they cannot say, at the very least, that they’ve not had any letters or emails on the subject.

      I’m on it!

    • Therese,

      The “Dunce Ferguson” – Brilliant!

      “Cummings is said to the brains behind the Government and that says enough” (!)

      Lots of very good stuff in there, Therese – thank you for posting.

    • Therese

      This is an excellent video and the best synopsis as to what is happening so far.

      My reading of Dr Coleman calling Boris “Comrade Boris” was a clear signal that Dr Coleman sees this as a communist styled takeover.

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