Is it a sin to break lockdown rules? 

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Shelley Luther, the salon owner in the above video told the Judge in court that she had broken the rules because she had to feed her family.  He was adamant that the rules  had to be followed, no exceptions.   7 days in jail and a $7,000 fine were imposed, with an additional $1,000 fine added for every day that her salon remains open.   We don’t know Shelley’s religion, but if she’s a Catholic, should she be going to Confession, with her sin of “disobedience” writ large on the list?  

57 responses

  1. Dear Editor,
    I have been following this story. There has now been a “go fund me” site set up for her I see and the response has been terrific.
    Unfortunately my beautiful ex fiance has seen it also and is now trying to get a visa to go to Texas!
    On the issue of going to confession, I thought somewhere in our catechism it is stated we are to obey just laws. It may be too fine a point to claim a distinction between laws and regulations which I understand this House Arrest to be.
    In any case, our Marxism Pope would like us to be forced to confess our sins of (carbon dioxide) Emissions. That is just a bridge too far for me if it ever came to pass. Now with this hysterical population, they would agree to any imposition.
    Do not think for a moment the greenies will not try and take advantage of the current situation.
    Only yesterday Lord Debden (John Seldom Glummer as was) who is chairman of a thing called the CCC has sent a letter to all the UK “governments” telling them they must incorporate the green New deal into their recovery plans after this Flu thing ends.
    Btw Mr Gummer is a staunch and active Catholic, most famous for forcing his daughter to eat a hamburger during the mad cow disease fiasco.
    It is funny how things go around in circles, the so called scientist who advised us that millions would die of mad cow disease is the one and only Mr Ferguson who was in yesterday’s news.
    Funny that.

    • Patrick,
      In regard to ‘just laws’, which you mention, I recall Fr Gruner doing a video where he quoted St Thomas Aquinas who wrote that a just law must have three conditions: be promulgated by rightful authority, not he contrary to reason, and be conducive to the common good. If any one of those are missing, the law risks being unjust.

    • Lord Gummer is a ‘staunch and active’ Catholic who voted for same sex marriage. Sigh…

  2. Jesus said “Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s”. However, common sense dictates that there must be exceptions such as if the state tells us to murder or sin in some way. Nobody is above the law but surely that applies to a just law? Therefore, is this a matter of a just law and, by what yard stick do we measure that? Mmmm…..

  3. My simple understanding is that the hierarchy of our responsibilities is, God, family, state. Laws of the state which conflict with the first two are unjust.
    Additionally, there are the so-called human rights constructs which are used by the secular world to determine just and unjust. The lockdown rules conflict with “human rights”.

    • Antoine Bisset,

      Also, for something to be a mortal sin, which is all we are absolutely required to confess, it has to be something gravely wrong, deliberate, i.e. done with full freedom of the will – so if you’re acting out of a desire to feed your children, not with the intention of flouting the law for the sake of it, that can’t be sinful, surely.

    • The judge in this case is far more in the “mortal sin” category than the so-called offender. Lockdown is abuse of authority, a suppression of freedom that has no justification in legal precedent or, in the case of Covid-19, in fact. We are now seeing that this virus is not the plague that was predicted, not even close, so the judge, like those in the kangaroo courts of totalitarian states, had no basis upon which to persecute this woman for just trying to earn a living. I believe there’s a lot of anger in the higher echelons of the U.S. Administration over this judgment, which of course is a breach of the American Constitution. There’s no question in my mind that the unjust judgment will be overturned. Let’s hope the judge gets sacked as well because this is a person who is clearly unfit to wear the robes of justice.

      • I don’t think the judge should be sacked, as I don’t think he was acting maliciously. I just think he was crossing the I’s and dotting the T’s, because if he let her off, thousands of others would have replicated this woman’s actions. Overzealous, yes unfit for office, no.

        • Catholic Convert,

          People are not usually sacked for “acting maliciously” but for being incompetent. If it’s not incompetent to lock up a woman for wanting to earn her living in order to feed her children, then point me in the direction of an incompetent judge.

          • I don’t particularly think he was incompetent. Put yourself in his shoes, the state governments have enforced a lockdown, albeit an overreaction, and the duty of a judge is sto uphold the law as it stands. As has been said, there are subversive activities afoot here, but I want to know why the governors from the freedom loving Redudlican party are enforcing lockdowns? Maybe the judge thought he would face a backlash if he let her off, or maybe he thought it would lead to chaos or civil disobedience? Neither you nor I are judges, are not lawyers and have no legal authority whatsoever, so I think we should weigh the situation from other perspectives.

            • CC,

              You’ve clearly not read the commentators who said he lacked “judicial discretion”. In other words, a judge does not have to slavishly apply a particular punishment/sentence. He does have discretion. This is a clear case where he lacked that discretion as is confirmed by the action of the Mayor in almost immediately overturning his decision, and releasing the woman.

              If you want another perspective, as you say, what about the fact that the Judge is a well known Democrat activist…

  4. I think Shelley Luther is a real hero, and I’m glad she stood up to that judge.

    He looked ridiculous wearing his mask up there on the bench without a single person anywhere near him.

    It just amazes me that 36% of people voting in the Catholic Truth poll think she should have obeyed the rules, and presumably let her children go hungry.

    No way is it a sin to disobey the lockdown rules. I don’t think they’re even laws of the land anyway, just the opinion of the government, a recommendation, and in the USA it’s up to the different governors to make their own rules. In another part of America, a governor made excuses for going to a salon to get her own hair done, LOL! I found this clip – the message is “do as I say, not as I do”.

    • Josephine,

      I agree with everything you say (and really everything else on this thread).

      This is a short Tucker Carlson video – he’s strong on the Shelley Luther case, and he reports the Chicago Mayer hypocrisy as well. It’s interesting that the judge in the Shelley Luther case is a political activist for the Democrats! A “goon” is how Tucker describes him. I agree!

      • His real name is Markus Meechan. He made an innocuous comedy video which he published on YouTube and was subsequently found guilty in 2018 by a Scottish court for promoting Naziism and anti-Semitism. Only a mad man would consider the videos to be hate crime and members of the Jewish community spoke out in his defence. The case was so absurd that during the trial people had to leave the court room because they couldn’t contain their laughter.

        There are more offensive jokes about Jews in the animated sitcom ‘Family Guy’ which is broadcast on television by the state broadcaster the BBC.

        The case proves that individual men do not have freedom of expression. Only corporations do. Because Meechan is working class they were determined to destroy him.

        The moral of the story is, don’t be working class and have an opinion or a sense of humour.

  5. At the end of the day, she knew the law and deliberately broke it. We should do what we are told by the civic authority which God has put in place “Render unto Caesar”

    • Pedar,

      So you think she committed a sin? Mortal or venial?

      Does that mean that doctors should always carry out abortions, even if they know it to be immoral to kill the unborn child?

      • Laura,
        Staying home for public health reasons isn’t quite the same as killing a child, a very silly analogy.

        Do you drive without wearing a seat belt and regularly break the speed limit and other laws, because you don’t accept Caesar’s authority?

        No, you do what you are told for the common good so should she. Let’s not make excuses for her criminal disobedient behaviour.

        At the end of the day it’s rebellion and against rightful authority – Like Satan

        • Pedar,

          I think you have misunderstood Laura’s point. She is asking if you think that doctors should carry out abortions even if they think they’re immoral, just because that’s allowed by the law of the land. It’s not a “silly analogy” (and anyway, don’t be rude to the bloggers here or you won’t last long)

          Now, please and thank you – answer the question.

        • Pedar,

          This situation has nothing to do with either “public health” or the “common good.” This so-called pandemic has been propped up by fraud from A-Z, from being planned as far back as 2010 in a Rockefeller Foundation paper; predicted in 2017 by Fauci himself; the response practiced a mere 6 weeks before the Wuhan outbreak by a seminar called “Event 201” at Johns Hopkins University; death projections based entirely on fraudulent computer projections by Neil Ferguson; the mis-identification of improperly isolated lung fluid samples; tests that do not actually test for any disease – only for antibodies from an undetermined cause; the often fatal mis-treatment of breathing problems with ventilators instead of with oxygen; the suppression of effective medication because Big Pharma won’t profit from it; the dystopian enforcement of measures that actually will make sickness worse (face masks, social distancing and quarantining) by reducing natural immunities, the widespread falsifying of death records, the suppression of videos by YouTube/Google and Twitter that expose “The Narrative,” – need I go on?

          And by the way, at the end of the day, Shelley Luther’s case has already been addressed and ameliorated by the Texas Attorney General and the Texas Governor – i.e. “lawful authority.” So much for “rebellion” – that is, unless you think God changed his mind about Lucifer’s rebellion and gave him a weekend pass out of hell.

    • Pedar,

      Sounds to me as though you’ll be among the first in line to get your vaccine…oh, but don’t worry. If it doesn’t kill you immediately, it will merely make you grievously ill for the rest of your life, and maybe even a good candidate for euthanasia. Hope you’re looking forward to thanking “Caesar” for that.

    • Pedar

      You obviously confuse legal with lawful. It is not lawful for government to take away a person’s right to put food on the table for their children. It is also unlawful to put people under house arrest. You must be one of those, like the Nazis, who would claim to be only obeying orders, right? Well, there’s the natural law, the moral law and the legal law, for want of a better term. The latter must reflect the former two if it is to be just. In this case it did not, so the judge was acting unlawfully and unjustly and should himself go to prison for that.

      • The UK government hasn’t taken away the people’s right to do that. We have the furlough scheme here. In America it’s a different story. Are they paying the wages of American workers? It is the American Capitalist system that is forcing people to take such action as that woman. What would that woman do if she caught it and passed it on to her children? Herd immunity wouldn’t have worked. I’ve said from the beginning, lockdown was a mistake. Furlough those with health conditions and pay their wages (much more affordable), and lock the old, disabled down etc, and enforce social distancing in public places and extra hygiene and sanitisation measures along with closed borders. But we are on dangerous ground if you are calling for a judge to be imprisoned and deprived of his office. I don’t know your profession? Do you have any legal training?

        • CC,

          Your references to the importance of social distancing and sanitisation measures suggest that you have not watched/heard the comments from infectious diseases doctors in the videos on this blog. For but one example, see the link in RCA Victor’s comment below, dated May 7, at 2.30pm.

          If you rely only on the mainstream TV and news reports in this country, you will know nothing more than the propaganda which they are feeding us, from complicit medics. Listen to those doctors who work in the field of infectious diseases/pandemics, and note that they are speaking out in conscience because they know that the advice being given is wrong.

          Listen to what they say – as doctors working with infected persons -about how impossible their job would be if they followed the advice we’ve been given on the off chance that we encounter an infected person.

          Makes perfect sense, when you think about it. I wonder why Boris didn’t think about it?

  6. I think Shelley Luther did the right thing in the face of not only injustice, but contrived tyranny. “Render Unto Caesar” indeed, but who is the real Caesar? Certainly not those pitiful, well-paid puppets – front men – whom most people think constitute our government. The real Caesars are the banksters and the occultists behind the throne, all of whom are possessed by evil intent. Unspeakably depraved evil intent.

    As for the specific puppet in charge of promoting tyranny in the USA, here is a complete expose of this corrupt NWO puppet Anthony Fauci, taken off YouTube twice now, but saved here:

    https://banned.video/watch?id=5eb3062575314400169f3e6c

    • RCA Victor,

      I’ve just started to watch that video and I’m hooked already. I need to attend to other things for now (not my usual excuse of heading for the pubs and clubs for obvious reasons 😀 ) but I will return to watch it right through asap.

    • RCA Victor,

      I am open mouthed at what I have just discovered in that video about this horrendous Dr Fauci, who is standing there day after day next to the President, spouting his “science” about the virus. To think he comes across as such a pleasant person, always smiling, quite humble in his decorum! I’m stunned. How on earth can this be allowed to go unreported in the msm? Is there some way to get that video to President Trump? Or maybe he knows by now?

      She is one brave doctor, to expose this. It’s unbelievable.

      • Josephine,

        I must need more practice seeing the good in people, because Fauci appears pretty creepy and smug to me!

        You know, that’s the problem with modern evil-doers in general, I think. They project such a pleasant public image, so professional, so well-dressed and manicured, so well-spoken – and yet, they are devils serving devils.

        if they all looked like this, the general public would have no problem figuring them out!

            • RCAVictor

              No insult at all, I think I look quite fetching in my pyjamas and Coronavirus mask. I particularly like the old tape deck on the front for playing soothing music to get me off to sleep. A bit of a pain if you sleep face down, though. By the way, that’s not a sabre (saber), it’s an extended LED torch to get me up a dark staircase and it’s powered by electrostatic discharge collected from nylon carpet via nylon socks. It also stops my hair from standing on end.

        • RADIator, (am I lower to cuss on here – “it’s” done it again!)
          I mean RCAVictor
          That description of a satanist/anti Christ is exactly as shown by our Pope emeritus over at Life sight News.
          There are so many of them walking the streets, is probably safer to think “they” are all satans little helpers.
          As a matter of interest the German madam who visited the fake scientist Ferguson is in the employ of a certain Mr Soros.
          Quite a surprise that, I expected her to be in The Legion of Mary.!

    • RCA Victor,

      Thank you SO much for posting the link to that video, which I’m posting again here, since my comment will probably go beneath other responses. To make it easier for bloggers to go straight to it, here’s the link…
      https://banned.video/watch?id=5eb3062575314400169f3e6c

      I’ve actually phoned people to watch it, not something I’m in the habit of doing, but this one is terrifying. And one thing is clear. If anybody should be in jail right now, it’s the same Dr Anthony Fauci who stands beside President Trump at his press conferences every day. Not a shred of doubt in my mind about that, whatsoever. Jail – and not for a mere seven days (although the judge who sentenced Shelley Luther to seven days should join Fauci in a custom-built cell, and that as soon as possible)

      I wonder if Trump knows about Fauci’s history and that is perhaps one of the reasons why he’s decided to disband his task force. Whatever the reason, thank goodness to see the back of that little [insert your own description, but wait till you’ve seen the video…]

      • Editor,

        I suspect President Trump does know about Fauci, but just in case, this morning I sent that video to an email publication which claims to have direct access to his staff.

        • RCA Victor,

          Brilliant! I wish you’d thought of sending him the link to this blog as well. Next time he comes to Scotland, I want to say “Hi !” and “WOW !” and “Mr President, shucks !”

          Well, the rest of the population is not exactly lining up to meet him, so we’re the best he’s likely to get 😀

          • This may come as a surprise to you Dear Editor, but not only have I played Trump Turnberry (badly) but when this stupid house arrest is over my rich American friend and I are due play Trump Aberdeen this year. Hopefully the great man will be there – with General Flynn.
            Do you want an introduction?
            I hope you are practising your golf swing.
            You know golf has similarities to our Catholic faith.
            We need to Practice a lot to get any good at either of them.

    • Editor,

      Peter Kearney is on the list and he is a known SNP supporter, shame on him.

      The Scottish Bishops are a total disgrace, as we know. This is just one more piece of evidence, and it’s probably true to say that the numbers attending Masses after this lockdown will be right down on previously, and they were low enough, then, as we know.

  7. RCAVictor

    Just got through the first two links you posted, really interesting. I’ll get on to the video shortly.

  8. I agree with this American politician who speaks about those imposing these restrictions being drunk on power. It’s not only in the USA that the politicians and law enforcement are drunk on power. It’s happening here as well.

  9. I am appalled to find that Boris Johnson’s father has admitted to breaking the lockdown rules. It’s obviously only us peasants who are meant to keep the rules, not those and such as those. Frankly, I’m wondering how much longer the rest of us will keep to these rules. If the very scientist who said these rules were essential, and the prime minister’s own father can break them, why should we keep them?

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-stanley-coronavirus-worry-prime-minister-a4435661.html

    • RCAVictor

      Yes, it definitely seems that there has been a deliberate attempt to suppress the use of hydroxychloroquine with a touted 91% success rate in favour of vaccines either not yet developed or known not to work. This has cost many lives, no doubt about it.

  10. Here is a very interesting thesis about the “pan-demic”:

    https://helenaglass.wpcomstaging.com/2020/05/06/bill-gates-gavi-clinton-health-initiative-who-covering-a-botched-vaccine/

    A little teaser:

    “Could the annual flu vaccine have actually been the causal factor of CoVid 19? And as a result – China, GAVI, WHO, Clinton Health all rapidly colluded to create a smoke screen in order to hide the fact that a vaccine actually caused a viral reaction? The list of side effects of this vaccine seem eerily similar to the symptoms of CoVid 19… And in fact, no one under the age of 65 should have been given this vaccine.”

    See also another article on this website called “Communist America: Brought To You By Maurice Strong and – Soros.” Very interesting, this author…

  11. I’ve just been reading a very good article on the whole Coronavirus crisis at The Remnant and this I thought I would copy and paste here because it’s absolute proof that the lockdown was not necessary at all:

    The following are the nine states that have refused to impose lockdowns. All of them have minimal death tolls from the Wuhan virus, including the populous South Carolina, and five of them have not enacted even local lockdowns:

    Arkansas – 14 deaths. No statewide or local lockdowns.
    Iowa – 14 deaths. No statewide or local lockdowns.
    Nebraska – 8 deaths. No statewide or local lockdowns.
    North Dakota – 3 deaths. No statewide or local lockdowns.
    Oklahoma – 42 deaths.
    South Carolina – 40 deaths.
    South Dakota – 2 deaths. No statewide or local lockdowns.
    Utah – 8 deaths.
    Wyoming – 0 deaths.

    [Data as of this writing on April 6 at 9 p.m.]

    Gov. Asa Hutchinson of Arkansas told the Fake News New York Times what we have been saying on these pages since the stupid lockdowns began: “the typical stay-at-home order was a misleading ‘illusion’ because it includes so many exemptions allowing people to go out in public, such as for groceries or exercise… ordering people to stay at home would simply leave thousands jobless.”
    https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/4841-coronagate-the-truth-emerges

    The fact that this is not being reported in the UK media just proves that they are into this lockdown message for their own reasons, for some agenda that the mass of the population don’t know about. It’s a complete scandal, but when you say that to people they look at you as if you have ten heads! What has happened to people?

  12. Laura,

    Many thanks for that extract. I’ve now read the entire article and it’s excellent.

    Underneath, Chris Ferrara has added the following statement:

    Here is junk science at its best:

    The IHME model now “predicts” that 60,415 will die from COVID19 by August 4 “assuming full social distancing through May 2020.” According to Christopher Murray, the Director of this Gates-funded fake science outfit:

    “Our estimates assume statewide social distancing measures are continuing in states where they have already been enacted, and for those states without such measures in place, it is assumed they will be will be in place within seven days.

    “If social distancing measures are relaxed or not implemented, the U.S. will see greater death tolls, the death peak will be later, the burden on hospitals will be much greater, and the economic costs will continue to grow.”

    They really think we are that stupid! Anyone with half a brain can see that the term “full social distancing” is not a quantity that can be plugged into an algorithm for modeling purposes but rather a politically charged term that is quantitatively meaningless, differs in application from place to place, and is impossible to verify empirically.

    Note the requirement of “statewide social distancing,” which is clearly tailored to the demands of the proponents of the economy-killing lockdown.

    “Statewide social distancing” is a phony variable, invented this March, which has no basis in prior experiential data from other epidemics that could be quantified. As this model now bases its ever-declining fake “predictions” on a vague, politically-motivated and quantitatively empty variable, it can be dismissed as pure junk amounting to nothing more than agitprop. Yet Scarf Lady and Tony keep touting this agitprop on national television. Trump must find a way to jettison these two subversive operatives immediately.

    As I have said: this is the biggest fraud in the history of American politics outside of World War I.

    Incredible..

    Which reminds me, has anyone else noticed the response of the Government spokesman and medical side-kicks to the journalists’ tame questions at the daily press briefings? I’ve now started to anticipate and laugh before it’s said… What’s said? Well…

    Everything is either”incredibly important” or an “incredibly good question” or incredibly this, or incredibly that… When in fact, the whole thing is a waste of time. It’s an incredibly long time since I’ve watched the whole thing right through 😀

    Gimme a break!

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