12 December: Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe – UK Election Day, 2019…

Comment: 

All of the UK political parties are pro-abortion  – with the exception of The Brexit Party, which has no stated policy on abortion – so we ought to pray very especially to Our Lady of Guadalupe, Patroness of the Unborn, that, somehow, the result of tomorrow’s election will lead to a change of heart, and ultimately a repeal of the 1967 Abortion Act.  It would be wonderful if – at the very least –  none of the pro-abortion activists fighting for the complete decriminalisation of abortion, are re-elected. Decriminalisation means that babies can be killed up to and including birth – even after birth. Even the minimal protection offered by current abortion legislation will be swept away by total decriminalisation. 

If you are wavering about how to vote, and not sure that “a single issue” should prevent you from voting for a pro-abortion party, check out the facts – including the graphic information about what actually happens during an abortion – here and reflect that future generations will look back in total horror at the fact that we allowed the murder of unborn babies as a matter of legal entitlement.  Reflect, too, that, at our Judgement on death, we will, surely, look back in horror if we facilitated, in any way, the murder of innocent, unborn children.  So, let’s  ask Our Lady of Guadalupe to guide us as we decide how best to use our vote on 12 December.   

Our Lady of Guadalupe, pray for  us!   

37 responses

  1. Please open your hearts to Our Blessed lady Of Guadalupe Patroness of the precious preborn storm Heaven that a pro life outcome will be had and also that many pro life MPS are Elected ………….Thanks always to dear Patricia who gives so much time posting things of importance on here ..Bless you

    • Wendy,

      Thank you for your kind words. Here’s an interesting thought, from Archbishop Fulton Sheen…

      “The refusal to take sides on great moral issues is itself a decision. It is a silent acquiescence to evil. The Tragedy of our time is that those who still believe in honesty lack fire and conviction, while those who believe in dishonesty are full of passionate conviction. (Fulton J. Sheen)”

  2. I’m still voting Labour. I’ll fight the abortion fight if and when it comes up. I cannot, in good conscience, talk about being pro-life when the government’s policies are anti-life and are plunging people, especially children into hardship and poverty. Those are not the conditions in which to bring new life into the world.

    • Catholic Convert 1,

      I’m actually very shocked that any Catholic could vote Labour when they are determined to decriminalise abortion so that babies can be killed after birth, all down to the mother’s “choice”. I’m genuinely shocked at that.

      Have you actually watched one of the graphic videos online showing an abortion, a baby being pulled out, limb by limb, body parts dropped into a dish? Have you watched that?

    • Catholic Convert 1,

      If I may, I would ask you to watch this graphic video of a baby being pulled from the womb because I can’t believe that anyone would vote for politicians who approve of this – in any party.
      https://www.cbruk.org/abortionreality

      I was planning to vote for the Brexit Party but now that I know we don’t have a candidate where I live, I’m going to have to spoil my paper, since all the other candidates belong to parties which support what you will see in that video, if you have the stomach to watch it – it really is horrible, I should warn.

      • Josephine,

        I agree. If there is no Brexit candidate, I don’t see how any Catholic can vote for any of the rest of them, all of them being pro-abortion parties. I had toyed with the idea of voting Conservative, just “to get Brexit done” but I think the SNP will sweep the board up here anyway, so there’s no point in compromising my conscience on such a pivotal issue as the murder of the unborn. I did write to my local Tory candidate, on the off chance that she would be pro-life but she’s anything but. I will go and spoil my paper and I will mention that this is the feast of Our Lady, Patroness of the Unborn, so am praying for an end to this barbarity so that I can vote in the future.

        • Nicky,

          Brilliant! I think it’s a great idea to mention the Feast Day!

          So, this is what I plan to write on my paper tomorrow, if I can fit it all onto the ballot paper – I usually take up the four corners with my comment…

          I am one of the million+ Scots who voted to leave the EU. We are ignored. Thus, there being no Brexit Party candidate, and this being the Feast of Our Lady, Patroness of the Unborn, I am unable in good conscience to vote for any of you whose Parties support the murder of unborn babies.

          OR “who support the culture of death” (not sure which – suggestions welcome. Polite ones only!) I suppose it will depend on how much space I have available! I thought of typing it all in a small font, and then taking the piece of paper into the booth with some Pritt Stick, but I just might draw attention to myself! Anyway, knowing my luck, the Pritt Stick wouldn’t work 😀

          PS – for those of you who may think a spoilt vote is a wasted vote, be aware that (as a friend who used to work in the polling stations at election time, once told me) each of the candidates has to check the spoilt papers to agree that each of them IS a spoilt paper. So, they are at least reading the reason(s) why we are not voting for any of them.

      • Josephine,

        That is truly stomach-churning to watch. It’s astounding that people think any woman has the right to choose to do that.

    • Catholic Convert 1,

      Like the babies who get the SNP government “baby boxes”, the children living in hardship and poverty have, at least, been allowed to be born, and not put through the agony of an abortion. Doctors have revealed how babies being murdered in the womb, actually pull back, wanting to stay put. They put up a fight for their little lives. No other policy matters to any of us, if we don’t have the absolute right to life, as Pope John Paul II said.

      Personally, I couldn’t bear the thought of being instrumental in putting people into power who are planning to extend the already liberal abortion law in order to legalise infanticide. I just couldn’t do that, and I’m amazed that anyone else could do that.

    • You sound a VERY mixed up man may God help you voting when you know he wants abortion up to Birth quite disgusting its best you keep your views to yourself

  3. I see on the news that the EU negotiator has said there’s no way Boris can get the deal through in 11 months.

    How’s that for a foreign power interfering in a UK election? Or is it just Donald Trump who is not allowed to comment?

    • Nicky,

      Now Donald Tusk at the EU is urging us to vote tactically! So, the EU bigwigs can interfere in our election, just not Donald Trump. It’s scandalous.

      I just can’t get over the way so many people want to remain in the EU – what makes them want to take orders from and obey rules from a foreign power? Some of them are full of panic and fear, it’s unbelievable, as if we’d been part of the EU for 400 years instead of a mere 40! We did used to run our own affairs, and I’m sure we can manage it again, LOL!

      I think Nigel Farage has got it right – unless we make a clean break, we just won’t get away from those bullies, i.e.we’ll never get out of the EU.

  4. I don’t get a vote in your elections but the Labor party here has just passed a law here in Western Australia to allow people to demand from their doctors the right to kill them in euthanasia. It is called Voluntary Assisted Dying! This State in Australia is the second to pass such legislation. The State of Victoria was the first. Abortion is just one step along the road to a total culture of death. It seems to be Labor parties who are pushing these things.

    • Lionel,

      Thank YOU for your kind encouragement.

      Please pray for us tomorrow as the population heads for the polling booths. This is, indeed, a very important election.

      • I am glad of the result! I trust the British cleverness, I am not worried about it…
        Great Britain has gone through great trials and it has always emerged with panache…

  5. Editor,

    Wow! I didn’t not know that candidates see the spoilt papers! That’s made my mind up!

    I cannot believe a contributor to this blog is contemplating voting Labour. I cannot believe a contributor who claims to be Pro Life will vote for a party based on their economic policies rather than life issues. Shocking. Given that person is a reader and contributor here, I would say he really should examine his conscience before presenting himself for Holy Communion at the weekend.

    • Petrus,

      I see you are referring to me in your last post. I do not know how you voted. You earlier said you’d vote Tory, but reading your last post, you gave the impression you may spoil your ballot. My conscience is clear. I voted Labour as I object to the bedroom tax, universal credit, cuts to education, health and support for the mentally ill, legal aid cuts, Tories who vote against making homes fit for human habitation, a million people on zero hours contracts, over a million people using food banks, 4.5 million children in poverty and 135,000 homeless children. My ancestors were miners, mill workers and farm labourers, so I could not, in a month of Sundays, vote any other way. Instead of Zacchaeus the people voted for Dives.

      • Catholic Convert 1,

        My family have also been Labour voters all their lives, but we have brains so that we can judge and make changes when necessary. Would your ancesters really approve of you voting for a Party which plans to legalise the murder of babies up to and including birth, and killing babies after birth, if the mother chooses? I don’t think mine would, not for a second.

        I think this is interesting, from SPUC:

        Dear SPUC supporter,

        The General Election has resulted in a huge shake-up of the parliamentary arithmetic. “There’s pro-life work to be done,” says SPUC, which is calling on its supporters to take action now to find out where new MPs stand on the key pro-life issues of abortion decriminalisation and assisted suicide.

        More Pro-life MPs?

        SPUC’s Director of Campaigns Antonia Tully said: “No prominent pro-life MP on the mainland has lost their seat. Anti-life MPs who lost their seat include Anna Soubry, Paula Sherriff, Chuka Umuna and Dennis Skinner.”

        Successful candidates who told SPUC supporters that they would vote to oppose decriminalising abortion and assisted suicide include, James Grundy (Con. Leigh), Ruth Edwards (Con. Rushcliffe), Anthony Mangnall (Con. Totnes) and Greg Smith (Con. Buckingham). “Now they are MPs, SPUC supporters must make sure that that they stick to their pre-election statements,” said Antonia Tully

        Lessons from history

        Commenting on the election result, SPUC CEO, John Smeaton said: “The Conservative party has won their biggest parliamentary majority since 1987. Whilst it is good that the party forming the new Government does not have a policy to decriminalise abortion, we must learn the lessons of history.
        “Margaret Thatcher’s Conservative government elected by a huge majority in 1987 had no party policy on abortion. However, they introduced legislation which, with their backing, legalised abortion up to birth and human embryo research.”

        Scotland

        SPUC Scotland, CEO, John Deighan said: “There are many marginal seats in Scotland and the pro-life vote is therefore important. It is very significant that Jo Swinson the leader of the Lib-Dems with a manifesto commitment to extend abortion has lost her seat in Scotland.

        “The collapse of the Labour party is another significant dimension of the result. The Labour party also took a radical pro-abortion position in its manifesto and Labour now seems to have truly lost swathes of traditional votes that it once relied on in Scotland.”

        Northern Ireland

        SPUC’s Northern Ireland Political Officer, Liam Gibson, said: “Northern Ireland now has four new MPs who advocate the decriminalisation of abortion. Three of these will take their seats in the House of Commons.“However, it will be the Stormont Assembly election expected in the Spring which will be decisive for efforts to repeal Section 9 of the Northern Ireland Executive Formation Act 2019 and the restoration of legal protection for unborn children in the Province.

        “The role of pro-life MPs within the Conservative Party will also be essential in any attempt to block the extremist agenda which Boris Johnson’s government was pushing through in Northern Ireland before the election. This agenda threatens to impose on the Province the most extreme abortion regime in Europe but it is merely the first step in the decriminalisation of abortion in England, Scotland and Wales.

        In conclusion, John Smeaton said: “Pro-lifers must also vigorously oppose a political deal on abortion – allowing abortion up to so many weeks’ gestation with the inevitable exceptions up to birth. This was the tragic mistaken deal backed by pro-life groups in 1990. It’s both unethical and led to abortion up to birth. The pro-life movement must never again trade the lives of unborn children to reach a political settlement on abortion.”

  6. Well, now to getting Brexit done!

    The one dark cloud that I noticed in the headlines this morning is that the viciously pro-abortion Labour MP, Stella Creasy, has been returned to Westminster. I couldn’t believe it. Cradling her new baby as the results came through – and she the leading light in the campaign to decriminalise abortion.

    Honestly, you couldn’t make this stuff up.

    One very interesting point was made in an interview by the former Labour MP, Kate Hoey (a Leaver) who was pleased that the Conservatives had gained such a majority, including many formerly Labour seats was this; that these new Tory MPs will now be meeting people in their surgeries, and coming to see the problems facing them, with which they have not had to deal before, so that may (should) lead to the Conservatives re-examining their policies. Let’s sincerely hope so because too many of them are very harsh, impacting on the poor and making life very difficult for those among us who are not millionaires. So, who knows, life may well improve in the UK in the next 5 years, thanks to Brexit and a softer Conservative Party policy making regime.

  7. Relying on my favorite website, American Thinker, it appears that congratulations are in order to all you UK residents, who have granted Boris Johnson a blowout victory:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/12/aftershocks_from_uk_election_earthquake_should_rattle_us_democrats.html

    But beware, you’re now, according to the leftist sore losers, nothing but racists:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/12/the_left_bellows_racism_in_the_aftermath_of_boris_blowout_election_in_uk.html

    In other words, the leftists, bloated with money, power, and their elitist fantasies, can only respond to the will of the people by calling them names, and clamping down ever tighter on their freedom of speech. So much for leftist claims that they represent “the masses.” Righto…..

    • RCA Victor,

      Not all UK residents voted for Boris Johnson.The Scottish electorate have overwhelmingly rejected him. He lost 7 seats in Scotland and has only 6 out of 59 Scottish MPs.

      • Vianney,

        A lot of that has to do with the fact that Scots have always hated the Tories. Scots are basically working class stock and see anyone who votes Tory as being rich and selfish. Even Nicola Sturgeon admitted that not all Scots want independence, and what she got percentage-wise (45%) is the same as those who voted for independence in 2014. That would mean indyref2 will not, automatically, bring her the result she wants. Frankly, I don’t think for a second that the country will vote to leave the UK. It makes totally no sense to leave the UK, a land border friendly nation, to join a foreign club, who will take goodness knows how much money from us for the privilege. No way!

        • Josephine,

          At one time the Conservatives were the largest party in Scotland before Labour became dominant, so I they certainly haven’t always been hated.

          it’s true that not all Scots want independence but people do change their mind. The week before the referendum opinion polls put support for independence at 23% but on the day 45% voted in favour. Lately polls have been at 50/50 with the latest being 51%.

          What about the money Westminster takes from us? I used to work for a Government department and know that Westminster lies about Scotland’s finances and friends who still work there keep me informed For instance, figures from HMRC show that in one year Scotland contributed £45 billion to the Exchequer and received £26 billion back, this is what is officially called a block grant and what the England calls a subsidy. This means that £19 billion remained at Westminster. These figures do not take into account oil revenue.Taking into account oil revenues Scotland would have a surplus of £468 billion a year. It’s little wonder that the Standard and Poors Organisation has said that Scotland is one of the wealthiest countries in the world and, if independent, would merit an AAA rating, the highest they award. Just think what could be done if Scotland’s money remained in Scotland. We are one of the richest countries in the world and yet we have people having to use food banks and one in four children living in poverty.

          • Vianney,

            I never think of independence in terms of money – I don’t care about being a rich nation or richer. That’s not important to me.

            We’ve just been seeing how difficult it is to end a union of 40 years, so think of the hassle it would be to end a 400 year old union. I found the 2014 referendum incredibly difficult, with arguments all over the place and friendship and family relationships soured. I hope and pray we don’t have to go through that again, at least not anytime soon.

            I don’t see what’s so bad about being part of the UK, I really don’t.

    • Catholic Convert,

      I don’t think so. Unionist parties took 55% of the vote in Scotland (the Tories alone 28%). At least some of the 45% SNP vote will be people who would not vote for independence, but like the SNP in Westminster.

      So it seems things are not significantly different from the time of the referendum.

      Boris has already said repeatedly he will not agree to a new referendum, citing Sturgeon’s own words that the first vote was a “once in a generation” event.

      She is saying that people are allowed to change their mind, but I think it is important that politicians do not lie to the public and that they honour what they have said. Otherwise, democracy is a joke – sadly I do feel we are in that place, especially considering the huge efforts to overturn the Brexit vote.

      The SNP seem to rely on trying to create a sense of grievance against Westminster – of course, that’s what the calls for a new referendum likely have as their real goal. (after all why would they want a new vote now, considering the division of the election votes between SNP and Unionists).

      If Brexit is implemented properly, it will leave the SNP in a hard spot as their pitch for “independence” would necessitate handing a lot of powers and resources back to Brussels when rejoining the EU.

      • Gabriel Syme,

        I agree. Just watching Nicola Sturgeon jumping up and down with delight that Jo Swinson lost her seat to the SNP, sickened me. I am not sorry to see the back of Swinson but such a totally unprofessional and even nasty public reaction was disgusting IMHO.

        I won’t vote for independence because the SNP – like Labour, and all leftish parties – is all about breaking up the family, or rather taking control of the family.

        They have criminalised smacking, so parents “caught” giving their naughty child a wee smack, risk being reported by some unofficial government spy and prosecuted.

        They clung to their plans for a Named Person for every child from the womb to 18 years, despite the Supreme Court in London saying it was a policy more typical of an authoritarian regime, than a so-called “progressive, democratic state”. I’m not sure if they are still trying to bring the NP in but if we got independence, that would definitely be back on the agenda.

        Also, the SNP is very pro-abortion, even insisting that Westminster pay for women from Northern Ireland to come here for their abortions before it was legalised over there.

        I don’t see how any Catholic can vote for any of these left-wing, anti-family, anti-child parties. I really don’t.

        BTW, I think the rush to get independence underway is both to get it in before the 2021 elections for the Scottish Parliament in case the shine has worn off by the, and also because when Brexit is a success and people are glad, after all, that the UK is doing well and all the doom and gloom prophecies are proved wrong, it won’t be so easy to get anyone voting in favour of indeyref2.

        • Josephine,

          I was also appalled to see Nicola Sturgeon jumping up and down with glee when the SNP took her seat in Bishopbriggs. How unkind. Her day will come, though – what goes around, comes around.

          • Margaret Mary,

            Jumping up and down when your party wins a seat is very common and there is nothing unkind about it. It was seen a lot last night when Conservative wins were announced in England.

            • Vianney,

              In all honesty, I watched a lot of the coverage live, and didn’t see anything like the report I saw this morning, of Nicola, so delighted, at taking Swinson’s seat.

              Talking about politicians being hypocrites, one of the reasons I found it so distasteful is that I’ve seen the two of them in debates, more than once, pointing out that while they disagree about some things their Parties have worked together in Parliament blah blah. Best of friends. Girls together.

              I sincerely hope I wouldn’t have been so blatantly delighted at my friend’s downfall, even though it benefited my unworthy self. But then, I suppose we can’t all be saints… 😀

      • Gabriel Syme,

        You are correct that not all SNP voters support independence, but by the same token, not everyone who voted for a Unionist party supports the Union. Before the referendum my local Labour MP arrived at my door asking if I had made up my mind which way I was going to vote. When I said I was voting YES she said ‘okay, thank you’ and walked off. When I mentioned this to a neighbour who is a member of the Labour Party and voted YES, he said that was because she would probably be voting YES herself, as would many in the party. He said that officially they had to be seen to tow the party line dictated by the London HQ but privately supported independence. He tells me that there is now a movement to get Scottish Labour to officially support independence. I also know a member of the LibDems who also supports independence.

        Boris Johnston can quote all he wants but it wasn’t Nicola Sturgeon who spoke about a “once in aa generation” event. It was Alex Salmond, but he has been misquoted as he said it was the “opportunity of a lifetime” which is a different thing. The Tories are hypocrites. They are claiming that they now have a mandate for Brexit but when asked about a second independence referendum claim that the SNP don’t have a mandate. It’s one law for them and another for everyone else. Many people have changed their mind since the referendum mainly because of Brexit and also because there were many promises made to Scotland if we voted NO, and not one of them has been kept.

        • Vianney,

          I was just about to close this thread when I saw that your comment had, for the usual incomprehensible reason, gone into moderation.

          I was about to close because I really don’t want this thread to get bogged down in general politics or to explore the independence argument prematurely. Not least because we don’t have a formal political position on anything that is not a “Catholic” or Moral issue – anyone can vote for independence if they choose.

          I would simply say this about the SNP. The Westminster SNP MPs never missed an opportunity to point out that the 48% who voted to remain in the EU in 2016, had to be taken into account. Yet, not ONCE have I heard any of them say the same about the one million + Scots (like myself) who voted to leave. Not once. And on the Scotland Debate Night show, when one man pointed out that more of us voted to leave the EU than voted for the SNP, Kirsty Blackman SNP MP, who was on the panel, simply turned her head away, without responding.

          I know of one family member who votes SNP and one good friend who is a member of the SNP but, although I’m not sure about the family member, I know that my friend just cannot understand why the SNP want to remain in the EU, while leaving the UK. It’s patently ridiculous. And I’ve met people who say that it is THAT policy which prevents them from voting for independence – i.e. it’s not independence at all. And if, as we keep being told, there’s no border checks, no passport, no anything different at all, really, well – what the heck’s the point?!

          Anyway, I don’t like to cut people off in case someone wants to respond but I will close this thread – and the other Voting thread – early-ish tomorrow.

          Be warned 😀

          PS – to prove that I’m really not unpatriotic…

          And another PS – ALL politicians are hypocrites… Not just the Tories. Be fair!

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