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  1. I posted a video yesterday on the miraculous medal thread by Fr George Roth,whom I had not heard of previously.
    This afternoon by chance I heard a homily he gave six years ago, and was impressed by it.
    The talk is about 30 minutes long but worth the effort to listen to it.

    • RCA Victor,

      I don’t think they care about blackmail any more – Schoenborn is obviously “gay” or he wouldn’t be so openly flaunting the “lifestyle”. He has been doing so for years now and between that and promoting Medjugorje, it’s clear that he’s about as Catholic as a hamburger with all the trimmings on a Friday.

      I recall an occasion when he over-rode the parish priest’s decision not to allow an openly “gay” man, living in a registered partnership, to participate in the parish council or some such body. This was a few years back now, but there’s no shortage of evidence that Schoenborn is all but “out and proud”.

      If he’s not, then he should watch the company he keeps and not leave himself open to being misunderstood. Those of us who think that if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it probably IS a duck, make no apology for saying we think he’s a … er… duck.

  2. Some good news….

    If you recall, some time ago, Therese asked for our prayers when she was undergoing tests and, ultimately, as she prepared to go into hospital for a major operation. I have today received the following email…

    Just to give you an update. I had a hysterectomy on 20 November, and have returned to hospital today to find out the results. I had a Stage 1 cancer which has not spread beyond half of the womb (going to undergo radiotherapy just in case, to blast any stray cancer cells that may be out there).

    When I consider that this was an aggressive cancer I have been tremendously blessed that I received a very early warning and thus very speedy treatment.

    There can be no doubt that God has given me a great gift for Christmas – an early warning to pull my socks up, stop messing about and concentrate hard on the health of my soul.

    I am tremendously grateful to Him, to His Blessed Mother, St Martin de Porres, St Therese of Lisieux, St Anthony and St Michael Archangel, whom I have inundated with prayers and novenas, and also my very, very grateful thanks to you, to Patricia and her family [Editor: my niece], and to the lovely family of Catholic Truth bloggers who have so generously offered prayers for my health. I will be asking for Holy Mass to be offered for your and their intentions.

    God bless, [Therese]

    I’m sure we are all delighted at this news… Deo gratias!

    • RCA Victor,

      Unbelievable. Literally, so , as this extract demonstrates:

      The assertion that saying Judas is in hell is tantamount to heresy is surprising given the clear teaching of Sacred Scripture, the Fathers and Doctors of the Church and the liturgy. As Cardinal Avery Dulles once explained in an article titled ‘The Population of Hell’:

      “The New Testament does not tell us in so many words that any particular person is in hell. But several statements about Judas can hardly be interpreted otherwise. Jesus says that he has kept all those whom the Father has given him except the son of perdition (John 17:12). At another point Jesus calls Judas a devil (John 6:70), and yet again says of him: “It would be better for that man if he had never been born” (Matthew 26:24; Mark 14:21). If Judas were among the saved, these statements could hardly be true. Many saints and doctors of the Church, including St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, have taken it as a revealed truth that Judas was reprobated. Some of the Fathers place the name of Nero in the same select company, but they do not give long lists of names, as Dante would do.
      Indeed, Sacred Scripture, Pope St. Leo the Great, St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Catherine of Siena, the Catechism of the Council of Trent and the Church’s liturgy are all of one accord regarding the fate of Judas Iscariot.
      Furthermore, as canons 750 and 751 confirm (as well as Pope John Paul II’s 1998 motu proprio Ad tuendam fidem), for any assertion to be qualified as a heresy it must contradict Divine Revelation; according to what the Church has proposed as divinely revealed, nowhere in Sacred Scripture or Tradition is it said that Judas is not in hell.

      it’s interesting that these ‘liberals’ (aka apostates) are so intent on making themselves looks open-minded and non-judgmental that the nearest sound-bite will do to reveal their utter ignorance / theological illiteracy.

      • Editor,

        That is a choice extract indeed. As for the theological illiteracy of the apostates, they also rely on two things:

        1. The theological illiteracy of the faithful, which they have helped to create.
        2. The automatic and unquestioning surrender of said faithful to the alleged superiority of their apostate wisdom. That is, false obedience.

        No. 2 reminds me of Abp. Lefebvre’s comment about the Devil’s masterstroke (regarding obedience), although i can’t find the quote without getting onto a “resistance” or sv website.

  3. Some news items:

    A CofE Bishop – Gavin Ashenden – formerly chaplain to the Queen, is to become a Catholic.

    Mr Ashenden once made headlines after criticising the reading of Koranic versus denying the divinity of Christ in the Anglican Cathedral in Glasgow.

    I am sure Pope Francis is cock-a-hoop at such an outspoken man converting from the CofE, absolutely delighted, no doubt. After all, he takes the Church’s mission so seriously! (ha!)

    Mr Ashenden cities the Apparitions of Our Lady, Eucharistic Miracles and the Magisterium as being what moved him to convert. Good on him.

    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/anglican-bishop-and-queens-chaplain-converts-to-catholicism

    Also, Catholic Rob Flello – booted out of the Lib Dems for being a Catholic – is to sue the party. More well deserved good news for them, after their dismal election showing. I hope he is successful in his action.

    https://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2019/12/12/lib-dem-candidate-deselected-because-of-his-catholicism-to-sue-party/

    • Gabriel Syme,

      Signed. And I’m so glad you corrected your initial typo, asking us to “sing this petition”. My singing voice isn’t what it used to be – and it was never very good!

  4. It seems that blasphemies against Our Lord and Our Lady have reached an unprecented level recently. Scarcely a day goes by without some new outrage being committed, and they get worse and worse in number and in intensity. Please would all CT readers seriously consider committing themselves to doing the First Fridays and First Saturdays of Reparation to the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary in 2020, if they aren’t doing them already.

    Details of each devotion here:-

    First Fridays: https://gloria.tv/post/bRaVRVECGptw44YgUX4pN8Hnc

    First Saturdays: https://gloria.tv/post/eBwpSmrNtE2h2W62bTV3jyJH6

  5. Westminster Fly,

    Thanks for those two links. It’s good to refresh our memories about these important devotions.

    I have made the FF and FS before but I think I will make them again.

    • Yes, keep making them! Sister Lucia of Fatima did them all her life, every First Friday and every First Saturday. Perhaps not so easy for people in the world, but with a bit of forethought and juggling around, it can be done. Our Lord complained to Sr Lucia that most people fulfil these devotions once in order to obtain the promises attached to the devotions, but not to make reparation – which should be the primary incentive in doing them. The more blasphemies multiply – and I’ve read of some horrific ones lately – the more reparation we should make. Start them again and continue them for as long as possible. I find that once you commit to it, and make it central in your life, and fit everything else around it, somehow it all falls into place. For those who can’t get to Mass on weekdays, at least consider the First Saturdays.

      • Westminster Fly,

        I think that’s good advice, to at least get to the First Fridays and Saturdays Masses. I hadn’t thought of it that way before, that just to do them once is more about getting the benefit of the promises, rather than actually making reparation. Thanks for that – it has struck a cord with me.

  6. Westminsterfly

    It is true that blasphemies have reached an unprecedented level. This is possibly why Our Lady appeared at La Salette, only two sins were mentioned blasphemies and keeping the sabbath holy.

    We certainly live in strange times when most people hardly think of them as sins anymore including a lot of Catholic’s.

    • John,

      I don’t tend to take the La Salette claims seriously although to be honest, it’s more about the fact that this Lady looks very different from she did in other apparitions, plus the crying/weeping. I really don’t feel sure about it.

  7. It would appear that Abp. Vigano is well on his way to becoming a full-blown traditionalist, as indicated by his response to the Pope’s attack against our Immaculate Queen and Mediatrix of All Graces:

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abp-viganos-defense-of-virgin-mary-in-response-to-pope-francis-full-text

    An excerpt:

    “A few weeks after the conclusion of the synodal event, which marked the investiture of pachamama in the heart of Catholicity, we learned that the conciliar disaster of the Novus Ordo Missae is undergoing further modernization, including the introduction of “Dew” in the Eucharistic Canon instead of the mention of the Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Most Holy Trinity.”

    Another one:

    “Yes, because the Second Vatican Council opened not only Pandora’s Box but also Overton’s Window, and so gradually that we did not realize the upheavals that had been carried out, the real nature of the reforms and their dramatic consequences, nor did we suspect who was really at the helm of that gigantic subversive operation, which the modernist Cardinal Suenens called “the 1789 of the Catholic Church.”

    He does, however, still call JPII “Saint.” (emphases mine)

    • RCA Victor,

      That was all good news until your last sentence. How he can possibly think JPII was or is a saint, is incomprehensible to me, when he sees the rest, the “disaster” of the NO etc.

  8. Interesting that the SNP Government should praise Catholic Schools. There are no Catholic Schools.
    The Catholic schools in Edinburgh and Glasgow are filling up with muslims. Notre Dame in Glasgow is also going to admit boys. Why, I do not know. Decisions made by councils are usually the result of lobbying, bribery and stupidity.
    The past has been betrayed. Catholic parents paid tax to support State schools. They also funded private Catholic schools, especially in the West of Scotland in order to ensure a Catholic education for their children. This required self-sacrifice. Eventually the Catholic schools were brought into the State system. For at least the last twenty years Catholic schools have been subverted by the admission of non-Catholics.
    Without any opposition from our bishops, who continue their rounds of coffee mornings imperturbably.

    Editor: adjective for bishops removed; read our House Rules to see that no personal remarks are permitted. References to the acquittal (or not) of their office is permitted, but no personal remarks, e.g. about personal appearance etc. Thank you.

  9. Point taken, sorry. I was not actually referring to their physical attributes but their performance record in post. I’ll accept a Scottish Bishop is doing what he should when he is sent to prison for it.
    I’ll endeavour to be more precise!

  10. Can someone provide me with evidence that shows Christ was born on Christmas Day? I have read a number of articles of which I will provide a few here:

    https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/bible-questions-and-answers/when-was-jesus-christ-born-was-jesus-born-on-december

    https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/jesus-historical-jesus/how-december-25-became-christmas/

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/dec/17/was-jesus-really-born-on-christmas-day-12-yuletide-questions-answered

    It seems Christmas wasn’t even celebrated in Rome until 300 years after Christ’s death, and only then to coincide with Saturnalia and Yule.

    • Catholic Convert 1,

      I always find this question interesting, because everyone seems to accept the claims about the date of Christmas being a kind of “takeover” of pagan festivals.

      These two videos are very good at answering this:

  11. My email to Gavin Ashenden:

    Dear Mr Ashenden,

    I am sending you this email to express my great pleasure and rejoicing at the news of your impending conversion to Catholicism. I am sure that Heaven is exultant at the news of such a prominent separated brother returning to his Father’s House. However, I urge you consider something before you take any steps. I beseech not to approach any Catholic Priests at the mainstream diocesan level as I did when I converted five years ago. That was a major mistake on my part. You will not be taught authentic and faithful Catholicism at a time when teachings on homosexuality and divorce and remarriage (i.e adultery) along with other forms of moral relativism are diluted, Likewise, Paganism is celebrated in the Vatican with the idolatrous worship of pachamamas. I strongly urge you to receive instruction from a priest of the SSPX, the Fraternity of St Peter or the Institute of Christ the King. The New Mass is a Protestantised Rite, condemned by Cardinal Ottaviani in the Ottaviani Intervention, which I urge you to read. To gain a true sense of majesty, sacrifice, sanctity and Divine puissance, and the Catholic worship which has nourished countless Priests, Religious, Saints, Doctors of the Church and Laity, I cannot recommend that you attend the Mass and receive the Sacraments in the Old Rites (1962 Missal) strongly enough. Also, these priests will benefit you as they will teach true Catholicism, and not Modernism. Ecumenism and Religious Liberty were denounced by Pius XI in Mortalium Animos and Leo XIII is Satis Cognitum, Gregory XVI in Mirari Vos and Pius IX in Quanta Cura.

    I will you well in your conversion and I pray that you will convert to Catholic Tradition and not the modern diluted version of Catholicism peddled by Pope Francis, which seeks an adulterous marriage between Christ’s Holy Church and the World.

    God bless you

    • WendyWalker

      Thank you for that link – I didn’t know who Gavin Ashenden was that Catholic Convert was writing to, but now I know!

  12. Just came across, by accident, some interesting background on Dr. Taylor Marshall, who has become rather well-known amongst consumers of Catholic blogs. Turns out he was the chancellor and a board member of SS. John Fisher & Thomas More College in Ft. Worth Texas, which had been founded not long before as a solely traditional Catholic institution with only traditional sacraments.

    This college was forbidden (!!) to celebrate the TLM by the new diocesan Bishop Olson, in 2014 (this was the subject of two Fatima Center videos, #77 and 78 in the archive, with J. Vennari and Fr. Gruner, RIP, in which they exposed the evil action of this bishop).

    After reading this article, I had to wonder whether Marshall was partially responsible for the demise of this college, having perhaps taken his complaints to Olson. Read it and you’ll see what I mean:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_of_Saints_John_Fisher_%26_Thomas_More

    • RCA Victor,

      That is very interesting and disappointing. Taylor Marshall did “come over” to the traditional Faith and sacraments in time (he was a convert and since some of us cradle Catholics also took time to join up the dots, I don’t suppose we can blame him for that).

      What I find surprising about the USA is how quickly such Catholics (Louie Verrecchio is another one who springs to mind) become leading commentators, able to raise incredible sums of money invited to speak at “traditional” conferences, and are quoted all over the place as “experts”. Strange? Or, are they really that good …

      • Editor,

        One of my Lenten resolutions this year was to all but do away with reading the gaggle of Catholics-turned-capitalists/experts/cherry-picking Council of Trent tree surgeons/etc. and stick to actual news and actual Church documents. As I believe I posted here back then, I concluded that all of them were completely missing the point: that we must suffer through this chastisement and do penance for our corrupt shepherds and for our own sins…while, of course, keeping the Faith (the hermits on the new thread seem to have missed that point as well).

        I also got fed up with “traditional” websites with cursor trackers, which, when they detected that you were about to go away, caused a pop-up to appear that said “WAIT! DON’T GO YET! WE HAVE SUCH A DEAL FOR YOU!” or some such other garbage.

        So let the money-grubbers and bitter blowhard pontificators go their way and keep doing what you’re doing. A blog and newsletter that issues paychecks with zeroes is infinitely more Catholic than blogs with cash-register spyware and podcasts which spend half their time appealing for money.

        But getting back to Taylor Marshall, if he is indeed responsible for Bishop Olson’s unlawful decree forbidding the TLM on that now-defunct campus, then he, Marshall, should be ashamed of himself.

    • RCA Victor,

      That is totally shocking, but I believe it can (and probably does) happen. The way this man has been treated is shameful, when all he did was tell the truth. There really is evil deep in society today. It’s frightening, actually.

      • Hi All,
        Does anyone know why Dr Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon no longer present podcasts together? Tim now has his own show so it looks as though there was some type of disagreement?

  13. St Mary’s Cathedral, Edinburgh to put on two concerts in spring to raise money. Barbara Dickson and some other talented musicians. Refreshments will be served at the interval state the priests of the Cathedral. You could not make it up!

  14. Does anyone know anything about Fr James Morris from St Gabriel’s church in Veiwpark? I watched a Mass from his church and couldn’t believe what I was seeing. He wore a stole that was tartan at the top and had the words Mary’s Meals in the middle and figures at the bottom. Instead of a chalice and ciborium he uses a wine glass and glass dish, and appears to make up much of the Eucharistic Prayer as goes along. He plays the guitar and sings during Mass, and sings during the distribution of Holy Communion instead of saying “the Body of Christ. If you have nothing better to do tonight, and want to do a little bit of penance, there will be a Mass tonight at 5,30 pm

    https://stgabrielsviewpark.scot/web-cam/

    • Vianney,

      Surely that priest’s Masses cannot be valid? I’ve always understood the priest has to use the correct matter, which includes the sacred vessels, and as for the rest, it seems clear to me that he believes in the Real Presence as much as I believe in aliens!

      Could these Masses still be valid, despite what you describe?

      • Yes I agree Josephine, his Masses can’t be vail. The sad thing is that when he elevates the host and glass he actually say ‘my Lord and my God’, which would indicate that he does believe in the Real Presence but has a very strange way of showing it.

    • Vianney,

      I was very late home today and saw this just before 5.30pm. My internet connection is very unreliable right now – I’m expecting a new piece of equipment on Tuesday, so I was resigned to being offline until then.

      I have now watched that live Mass and couldn’t believe the half of it. If ever a priest loved the sound of his own voice, in both words and music, it’s this Fr Jim Morris. Goodness, what a patient congregation.

      If that Mass was valid, then I’m the Queen of Scotland…

      I’m giving thought to how to deal with this, since the Bishop clearly isn’t; watching the largely ageing congregation going up for Communion (on the hand, of course) and then back up (after reams of prayers to every saint under the sun) for some kind of anointing, I couldn’t help wishing I was outside with a very informative leaflet to educate them in the fact that they had just wasted an hour of their lives. There’s always next week, if anyone is interested in joining me! One of the most striking things about that Mass was the time the priest spent boasting about how many people are watching his live Masses, from all over the world, naming countries and the numbers really were amazing. People in Australia are contacting him to ask for other intentions to be added to his list after hearing him praying for them in their bush-fire crisis. In any event, I was one of those numbers this evening and I was watching in horror so I doubt if everyone who tunes in does so because they’re delighted with what they see going on at his “Masses”.

      As well as listing every saint alongside his/her patronage (pray for the unemployed to St Joseph the Worker and Margaret Sinclair – that sort of thing, a seemingly endless list) this priest prayed that Pope Francis “will get to put all his ideas into practice” – words to that effect, and I think that IS a verbatim quote; if not, it’s close). So, we all know where he’s “coming from”, as they say, and – without any doubt – where he’s going unless he repents of what might be considered sacrilegious, if not blasphemous Masses. For one thing, he preached about Our Lord being a “human being” – a common enough error, but not one expected from a priest. Christ was ALWAYS a “divine being” who took on our human nature. There IS a difference.

      So, here is yet another rogue priest in the Diocese of Motherwell. I wonder how many more there are? Fr Matthew Despard is really having his Faith put to the test. Effectively thrown out of the priesthood, in a Diocese which allows this sort of make-it-up-as-you-go-along (insert adjective) priest. Truly shocking.

      • Editor,

        You should contact Father Hollywood with the following prayer intentions:

        “1. That the Masses offered by him at St. Gabriel will be valid, instead of clown shows.

        2. That the Bishop of Motherwell will have a visit from three spirits at the stroke of midnight….”

        • RCA Victor,

          Father Braveheart more like – did you SEE that tartan stole? And did you hear that pronounced Scottish accent? Even our resident nationalist, Vianney, doesn’t speak like that and he’s a Scotsman with bells on, in a manner of speaking 😀

          I’m fast concluding that the Bishop of Motherwell has to be THE worst of the eight on offer in the Scottish episcopate.

          • Editor,

            C. S. Lewis said, “There are two kinds of people: those who say to God `Thy will be done’ and those to whom God says, `All right then, have it your way. ” Tragically, many people will have to endure eternity without God because they chose to live without him here on earth. When you fully comprehend that there is more to life than just here and now, and you realise that life is just preparation for eternity, you will begin to live differently. You will start living in
            light of eternity, and that will colour how you handle every relationship, task, and circumstance. Suddenly many activities, goals, and even problems that seemed so important will appear trivial, petty, and unworthy of your attention. The closer you live to God, the smaller everything else appears.

            “For many are called but few are chosen”
            Matthew 22:14

              • Editor,

                Life on earth is a test. It’s the nursery for the soul (if you’ll oblige me this metaphor) and is a temporary assignment. How you perform on the test dictates where you go next and, as can be evinced throughout the written Word of God, our destination after earth is twofold: Heaven, or Hell.

                God continually tests people’s character, faith, obedience, love, integrity, and loyalty. Words like trials, temptations, refining, and testing occur more than 200 times in the Bible. God tested Abraham by asking him to offer his son Isaac. God tested Jacob when he had to work extra years
                to earn Rachel as his wife.

                Character is both developed and revealed by tests, and all of life is a test. You are always being tested. God constantly watches your response to people, problems, success, conflict, illness, disappointment, and even the weather! He even watches the simplest actions such as
                when you open a door for others, when you pick up a piece of rubbish, or when you’re polite when communicating with, or about, other people.

                You will be tested by major changes, delayed promises, impossible problems, unanswered prayers, undeserved criticism, and even senseless tragedies. In my own life I have noticed that God tests my faith through problems, tests my hope by how I handle possessions, and tests my
                love through people.

                Every time you pass a test, God notices and makes plans to reward you in eternity. James says, `Blessed is the man that endureth temptation; for when he hath been proved, he shall receive a crown of life, which God hath promised to them that love him.”

                What plans, and rewards, might I ask, do you consider God makes for those who mock priests on their choice of clothing and their accents? Are you living as close to God as you would like to be?

                    • Marc,

                      Your response to Editor’s question reminds me of the Parable of the Pharisee and the Publican. You would have been as well writing “I thank thee, O Lord, that I am not as other men. I am so close to Thee, bearing all my tests so well, unlike this sinful Editor”!

                      I suggest you read Our Lord’s lesson for the proud and self-assured concerning the Camel and the gnat, for you have completely overlooked the outrage before God of a priest offering Masses that are certainly invalid and possibly even sacrilegious, fixating instead on comments made about his accent and stole.

                      I don’t know what kind of Catholic formation you’ve had throughout your life, but what I can say with absolute certainty is that you are not nearly as close to God as you imagine yourself to be.

                    • Athanasius,

                      Unfortunately, I don’t seem to have the option to reply directly to you but, hopefully this message finds you, as it is directed to you.

                      My comment to Mme. Editor, I assure you unequivocally, was said entirely in jest. You may have missed the ” 😉 ” (winking emoji) which, I am told, is the agreed-upon internet means of following a comment meant in jest. If this is not the case, then please excuse my ignorance.

                      I, in fact, am not a Catholic so you can rest assured that I am not close to God in any way, shape or form (although I have been seriously thinking about becoming a Catholic for some time).

                      Marc

                      p.s. Thank you to both the Editor and Gabriel Syme for taking the time in answering my questions re: celibacy in the priesthood. It was enlightening, thought-provoking and very much appreciated!

                    • Marc

                      My apologies to you, I missed the emojo and I had no idea that you are not Catholic. Had I been aware of the latter misfortune then I would definitely have cut you a lot more slack!!

                      Thinking about becoming a Catholic is good, it demonstrates that God may well be a lot closer to you than you think you are to Him. I’ll pray for your intentions.

      • Editor,

        I wonder what the parishioners of St Gabriels think about the way their priest behaves . Have they become so immune that they can’t see that they are probably attending a Mass that’s not valid? The parish must be reasonably big as there are five Sunday Masses (if you include the two “Vigils”) and I can’t believe that in a parish that size there is nobody to do the “music ministry”, as I believe it’s called, and he has to provide the music himself. He’s obviously deluded and thinks he can sing but he had better not go on Britain’s Got Talent because he would be booted oot!

        Did you notice how cluttered the sanctuary is? All those chairs, I counted 10, two cribs, four lanterns, etc, etc. During Christmas he had two of those hideous fibre optic trees on either side of the tabernacle. The only good thing I can say is that he at least has a stable instead of just dumping the figures in front of the altar, as so many churches do now.

        • Just had a look at his Monday evening Mass. He insisted on singing and he told the congregation (all 6 of them) that there was Epiphany water with which they could bless themselves. At the end of Mass he pushed the Epiphany water up the aisle in a wheelchair singing “Our God Reigns.” You couldnae make it up! I think all those folk he says tune in from all over the world must think they’re watching a Scottish comedy show.

          • Vianney,

            “Scottish comedy show” – hilarious!

            It’s actually funnier than some of the real Scottish comedy shows. As you say, you just couldn’t make it up!

        • Vianney,

          That’s what I kept thinking watching his live-streamed Sunday “Mass”. Surely, I kept thinking, someone must disapprove? I think I’m correct in saying that the man at the front, accompanying the woman in the wheelchair, although they were seated on the left hand side of the aisle, crossed to the right hand side to receive “Communion” from the priest, and not the girl altar boy who was standing at the left hand side with a ciborium. It happened so quickly that I almost missed it, but I’m fairly certain that is what happened.

          If that entire congregation really is fine with those “Masses” then they need a jolt. We may do a very detailed write up for the March edition and order extra copies to take along and distribute at the end of several of their “Masses”.

          • Editor,

            Yes, you are correct about the man and the woman in the wheelchair, they did cross over to receive from the priest. What I find strange about this priest (among many other things) is that during his late morning Mass, presumably the best attended Sunday Mass, he distributes communion on his own without any help.

  15. This video is a perfect example of how the enemies of the Church work: their short-term goals not only pave the way for their long-term goal (to reduce the Catholic Church to a corrupt Protestant sect/harmless anti-Christ-supporting cog in the new world religion), but each short-term goal provides enticements to corrupt clergy to participate in the general debauchery, and receive benefits therefrom.

    Here we have on display a major short-term goal: a liturgical, theological and disciplinary free-for-all. This chaotic environment benefits homosexuals, who can then act with impunity (and approval) amidst the general anarchy and abdication of authority, and even openly militate for the acceptance of their perversion.

    A political example of this process can be seen here in the USA: the long-term goal is to destroy the American national identity and have our nation take its poverty-stricken place in a global socialist bureaucratic apparatus (for example, the EU). A short-term goal to help achieve this is open borders, which benefits the Democratic Party by importing new voters (that is, illegal aliens) who will vote for Democrats once they understand that they can be immediate beneficiaries of the welfare state. This massive influx of new “voters” will also change the demographic identity of America from a European nation to a tossed salad of confusing, conflicting ethnicities and religious beliefs.

    And this is what the Marxist demagogue in the Chair of Peter is constantly haranguing about….

    • RCA Victor,

      I’m not sure if you’ve seen the live “Mass” – or if there’s a video which I’ve missed. Explain yourself, dude! (My American accent just gets better and better, as I think you’ll be forced to agree…)

      As for the rest – pure gold!

  16. Does anyone know what a “decree of recognition” from the Church is?

    I ask because this link claims that the syllabus for Catholic RE in Scotland achieved one, and this was “rare and momentous”.

    https://blogs.glowscotland.org.uk/nl/ReligiousEducationCNHSreligiouseducationwebsite/this-is-our-faith/

    I am curious that text books, for example, would receive one of these, as opposed to the usual imprimatur / nihil obstat which books can receive.

    Don’t get me wrong, in no way do I think this means that Catholic RE in Scotland is satisfactory any more than a normal canonical status means a priest is reliable. (The old guarantors of reliability have long since become meaningless, of course.)

    I am just curious as to the term and what it implies.

    I suspect it is an exercise in doublespeak, and could be explained as the Holy See recognising that the course is indeed a syllabus for Catholic RE, while saying nothing as to it’s quality or content.

    • Gabriel Syme,

      I haven’t heard that term before, but, it’s hardly surprising that Catholic RE programmes in Scotland (and elsewhere) will gain the Vatican’s seal of approval. Goodness, if atheists are guaranteed a place in Heaven, an RE programme is hardly going to fail the test – any RE programme, any test 😀 I presume from the title that it simply means, taken literally, that the Vatican is “recognising” this programme and that, of course, implies that it is sound in terms of Catholic teaching. If it’s anything like previous RE programmes in Scottish schools, that is unlikely to be the case.

      It’s interesting to note that while at one time we had at least a couple of teachers who would jump to sign in when we had a thread on Catholic education, keen to defend the indefensible, they have now given up trying.

      I have a copy of This is Our Faith which I will have digested prior to our Education Seminar, at which time the excellent panel we have put together, will share their views on it.

      • What amazes me about that video, is the reports that are in it, from Australian TV, where they are reporting that some of these fires are arson attacks, nothing to do with the climate. Yet, we are not having these reports told to us on our news reports in the UK. Is that deliberate, I wonder? Personally, I think it is, because the media is in hock to the green lobby.

  17. Look at this concerning story, linked below.

    There are claims that Catholic Military Chaplains broke the seal of confession to “out” homosexual soldiers, during the period when the Military sought to exclude persons with same sex attraction.

    I cant believe it, frankly. The allegations are very hazy:

    Campaigners say the priests broke the confidentiality of confession which could have led to dismissals and humiliation for vulnerable serving members.

    Then the article switches to more concrete statements when it comes to Church of England chaplains reporting people to the Military authorities.

    I wonder if this is really about CofE ministers – whom would be far more numerous, at least in that time period (90s) – and the Catholic allegations are just thrown on top to take the brunt of disapproval?

    it is completely unimaginable that a priest would betray a penitent in such a manner.

    The article claims Cardinal Hume acted to prevent the practice.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7878457/Defence-minister-apologises-Catholic-military-priests-outed-gay-personnel.html

    • Gabriel Syme,

      No way would any priest break the seal in that way – I would be horrified if that were true.

      Apart from that, and I’m sorry to sound cynical, but since there seems to be a lot os Catholic priests who are homosexual themselves, the idea of them breaking the seal to out anyone else, is too far fetched.

  18. Marc,

    My hat’s off to you, and to anyone else for that matter, who is considering becoming Catholic in the midst of this Passion of the Church, where the corruption of her human clerical members has become a stench all but obscuring her purity. This would be something akin to wanting to become Our Lord’s disciple whilst he was hanging on the Cross.

    I hope you will continue to pursue your spiritual longing, and if I may suggest it, please find a traditional Catholic priest to assist you on your brave journey. I’m sure Editor could supply one or two names near your locale.

    • RCAVictor,

      Sorry for the belated response, I have only just noticed your comment.

      Thanks for your kind words and encouragement. I have already spoken with a traditional Catholic priest in my area. I did email the SSPX in Edinburgh to enquire (inquire?) if they had any intention of offering Mass in my area. They said “no” because the diocese offers the TLM and they won’t encroach into areas where that’s the case. However, they followed-up by saying that the aforementioned priest was, in their words, “a good, traditional priest.”

      • Marc,

        That is interesting, to learn of the SSPX attitude to areas where there is already provision of the TLM by others. The Society does maintain Chapels in some Dioceses which have other provision, but those are mostly instances of where the SSPX was present first and often the other provision was (originally) a reaction to their presence.

        What Diocese are you in, may I enquire?

        It is good also that the SSPX advised their opinion regarding the priests in your area. If a Diocesan priest offers the TLM (or is at least sympathetic to it) then that is usually a reliable indicator of a good priest.

        • Gabriel Syme,

          Yes, the email also mentioned that there were instances where local Bishops would organise the Tridentine Mass in districts where the SSPX had established themselves – presumably, to draw people away from them. I was assured, however, that this is not the case in Dundee (Diocese of Dunkeld), where I am.

          • Marc,

            I guessed you were from Dunkeld Diocese – I’ve heard that the Bishop there is the saving grace of the Scottish Bishops Conference – he’s the best of the bunch, if I could put it that way, LOL! So I’ve heard anyway.

            My only concern would be if you are receiving instructions from a priest who is still saying the novus ordo (new Mass). They are compromised in that they have to go along with a certain amount of the modernist abuses even if they say they don’t want to. I know that one of the priests in Glasgow who offers the traditional Mass, not only still says the novus ordo but even uses female altar servers. That is not an essential so the fact that he would do something so obviously wrong, such a major liturgical abuse, when he doesn’t really need to, means that he is not truly traditional. Offering or attending the TLM is not in itself a sign of being traditionally Catholic.

            Anyway, it’s fantastic that you are considering becoming a Catholic. You must be receiving special graces to think of doing that at this time of huge crisis in the Church. Some of us are doing the opposite, thinking of leaving, LOL! Only kidding really, but we’re only human!

          • Marc,

            I think many Bishops will today recognise the SSPX as bastions of orthodoxy and authenticity – even if they do not acknowledge this openly.

            Although the situation could still improve, I think there has been progress. For example, the current Archbishop of Glasgow is much more tolerant of the TLM than his predecessor.

            I think previously Bishops would try to undermine the SSPX, as you say, but these days the SSPX is probably way down the list of problems for the typical Bishop!

            That said, +Tartaglia has hardly promoted or boosted the TLM – but at least he has not attacked it either.

            Although not recently, some time ago I met a good priest from Dunkeld Diocese a few times, who said the traditional mass. He was from Glasgow originally but was ordained for Dunkeld.

            I certainly think you will be much better off in Dunkeld that some of the other Dioceses!

            I will be interesting to see how the SSPX expand in future, in Scotland. The UK district has a healthy number of seminarians (compared to its number of active priests).

            I would expect / hope for an increase to the 2 priests they currently have based in Scotland, in the not too distant future. (Maybe to the heady number of 3!). They also have an affiliated priest in Orkney.

            And so they might be able to offer mass in new locations, I wonder where they might target?

            It is very courageous of you to consider the Catholic faith – I hope you find this adventure fulfilling and I will certainly pray for you as you investigate!

  19. Can anyone tell me where I can obtain the film “Unplanned”? I see Amazon has removed it (!!!) and I can’t find another source. Thanks in advance.

  20. Fr Z reports an interesting snippet:

    An American Diocese (which asked not to be named) has come to the (obvious) conclusion that, in the coming years, the novus ordo will continue to fall away (as it is already doing with aplomb) and the TLM will maintain its steady growth.

    Accordingly the Diocese is beginning to plan for this, as regards allocation of resources, training etc.

    Here is a tweet referenced by Fr Z:

    Fr also makes the point that, in many places Churches are being saved thanks to being handed over to traditional orders who revitalise them. We have seen this in the UK, I can think of several notable examples in Preston and New Brighton, where ICKSP have taken over 3 Churches already.

    None of the gimmicky modern ‘Catholic’ groups – ‘Break-dancing Charismatic Catholics for Christ’ etc -would ever be capable of taking over, preserving and running a Church.

    • That’s very important news indeed. If even one bishop is now admitting that the novus ordo is on the way out, that is great. Some years ago, a Vatican cardinal said that he gave the novus ordo 30 years at the most, so it looks like he was right.

    • Gabriel Syme,

      What great news! I have a suspicion as to which Diocese this might be, but I’m going to keep it to myself. I also hope that Dioceses of like mind will stop calling the TLM the “extraordinary form,” which was a lame political sop invented by Pope Benedict to accompany the outrageous lie that the Novus Ordo and the TLM were “two forms of the same rite,” and call it by its true name.

      The entire Vatican II revolution is based on lies and deception.

  21. Does anyone understand this “Unite the Clans” business from The Remnant? It doesn’t seem like anything more than asking the numerous traditional groups to stop attacking each other and develop relationships….which starts to sound as vague as the attempts to define “ecumenism.”

    • RCA Victor,

      I looked up “clan” and got this definition:

      “a close-knit group of interrelated families, especially in the Scottish Highlands.”

      So, maybe all those American traditional groups are going to move to Scotland, LOL! I did laugh when the video opened with the banging which sounded like the introduction to a pipe band marching!

      These calls to put up a unified front are definitely similar to the ecumenical mentality and it makes me wonder if this call to “unite the clans” is a sign that Michael Matt is ready to throw in the towel. After all, if the leaders of all the other groups, like “his friend Henry Weston” had wanted to just sign up to support The Remnant, presumably he/they would have done so. The separate groups will have their own identity and ideas about how to achieve their goals, so it’s difficult to see how Matt’s suggestion would work. Does he see himself as the “Clan Chieftain”, ruling over all the “traditional” Catholics, who are “traditional” in varying degrees, from what I can tell. Many who think they are traditional Catholics still attend the Novus Ordo.

      • Josephine,

        Well said. What I was trying to figure out, more specifically, was what good it would do to “unite” all the traditionalist groups anyway, since we have no power to do anything about this apostate Pope, or even about the Consecration of Russia – except to pray and perhaps write to those who DO have the power to do something about this. Moreover, it seems that many of these groups have the financial wherewithal to travel to Europe and stand in silent protest in various public places, but again – what is that accomplishing?

        I don’t think Michael intends to throw in the towel, nor does he have aspirations of leading some united traditional front, but I do think he gets sidetracked by sentimentality occasionally – and this seems to be one of those occasions. Meanwhile, though LifeSiteNews is an effective orthodox site, they are by no means traditionalist. For example, they habitually refer to JP II as “Saint” JPII, and Cdl. Ratzinger as “Pope Emeritus.”

        I also wonder what Michael intends to do about all the sedevacantist groups out there. Now there’s a clan of a different color….

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    My letter re CHELSEA FLOWER SHOW OUTRAGE

  24. On 1st of February, the Ugandan Archdicoese of Kampala issued guidelines regarding the reception of Holy Communion, aimed at raising standards and combating abuses.

    It is clear from some points that even modernist novelties (like EMHC) were being abused.

    However the big points are that the Archdiocese has banned receiving in the hand, and reaffirmed that persons in mortal sin should not receive.

    These are two very worthwhile points which should hopefully bear more fruit in terms of eventually eliminating EMHC etc.

    https://www.pmldaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/FB_IMG_1580638432531.jpg?_t=1580643984

  25. I would really like to understand the root cause(s) of much of the consternation on this blog. I understand that the Pope (and his recent predecessors) and terrible leaders – even I can see that – but, what exactly is it; what changes would you like to see happen that would make you content with your Faith? I notice, also, that the contents of the second Vatican Council is something which attracts much derision. Would you like to see the entirety of Vatican II renounced and go back to the way it was before then? Is that even possible? Or is it something else entirely? I’m genuinely curious. Thanks

    • Hi Marc,

      what changes would you like to see happen hat would make you content with your Faith?

      The moral teaching of the Church is unchanging – it cannot change, for absolute truth cannot change.

      What was true 2,000 years ago must necessarily be true today – for example that it is wrong to kill or steal.

      If you look at the home page here: http://www.catholictruthscotland.com/

      There is a rotating banner of quotations from Popes and Saints which highlight the fact that the faith is unchanging and can never to be altered. Some of them warn us to be very wary of anyone who advances novel ideas.

      “it is an error to think that Christ did not teach a determined body of doctrine, applicable to all times and all men” – Pope Pius X

      A big problem today is that, for a variety of reasons, some Churchmen attack, undermine or ignore the unchanging truths the Church is supposed to proclaim.

      These include teachings which may be awkward or unfashionable in the current era: for example that Catholic is the only true faith, or that homosexual behaviour is morally unacceptable.

      People who think that the meaning of doctrines and words can change over time – to suit changing societal values etc – are called modernists and they are a big problem for the Church, for they disseminate erroneous ideas and falsehoods. They mislead the faithful essentially. This is very serious as it could cause the loss of souls.

      Modernists are every cunning as to how they propagate their ideas. Knowing the Church is protected from formally teaching error, they instead seek to advance through ambiguity or the tactic of saying one thing and then saying the opposite.

      Pope Francis is a classic example of this, his documents are ambiguous, he creates loopholes via footnotes, he repeatedly gives interviews and then denies he said what was reported etc.

      Modernists have largely controlled the Church since the Second Vatican Council. If you compare the mainstream Church of today, with the Church of the preceding 2000 years, you cannot help but note how starkly different it is.

      The differences are in how it worships, what it teaches, how it teaches, how it regards itself and how it regards false religions etc. it has gone from being a dependable rock, as Christ intended, to being a chaotic body which is in constant flux.

      Fortunately there are growing elements of traditional Catholicism, which will ultimately steady the ship.

      So really, authentic Catholics never want any change to the faith, only that it is taught faithfully, whole and entire.

      “Go and teach all nations” as Jesus said. But the mainstream Church has not being doing that in recent decades – instead it just wants to be ‘one of the crowd’, erroneously equating all religions, which is a grave error – and it has suffered decline and the growth of ignorance as a directly result.

      A good recent example if Francis and his “pachamama” rubbish.

      Would you like to see the entirety of Vatican II renounced and go back to the way it was before then? Is that even possible?

      Yes and yes!

      However it is important to note that at the time Vatican II was pitched only as a Pastoral Council, not a teaching one. That is, it was not seeking to instigate any significant, fundamental changes to the Church.

      But now, decades later, it is clear that in fact modernists used the Council as a gate of entry to instigating change: change which has proved disastrous to the Church and destroyed the faith of many.

      They did this through the tactic of ambiguity in documents. Statements which can be read in an orthodox manner, but which also are capable of being inverted and ready in a very different fashion. This is how they concealed the mechanisms of change.

      Cardinal Kasper, himself a young man at the time of the Council, has since openly admitted this:

      In many places, [the Council Fathers] had to find compromise formulas, in which, often, the positions of the majority are located immediately next to those of the minority, designed to delimit them. Thus, the conciliar texts themselves have a huge potential for conflict, open the door to a selective reception in either direction.” (L’Osservatore Romano, April 12, 2013)

      The goal was to produce documents which seemed orthodox, but which could then later be exploited through progressive interpretations of ambiguous statements.

      This is the root of where we are today.

      Of course some, notably Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, saw this danger early on but was castigated by all and sundry for rocking the boat and endured decades of calumny.

      Ultimately he has been proven right. Increasing numbers of clergy and scholars see this. But a problem is when they do not just say “he was right” but instead just keep insisting on orthodox interpretation of Vatican II.

      That stance is not good enough, because as long as Vatican II endures, the door to modernistic interpretations will be left open.

      Prior to Vatican II, the Church was supremely confident, dynamic, highly successful, purposeful, growing and virile – as Christ had intended.

      Nowadays the mainstream Church is doubtful, un-confident, rudderless, moribund and in decline in many places. Its bastions have been undermined and are in doubt. Rather than pursuing its divine mission, it wastes time glorifying false religions, seeking loopholes in its own teachings and arguing with itself as to its nature and what it teaches. This is the wages of the fall out of Vatican II. It really is pathetic and cannot go on.

      Ultimately, fans of Vatican II claim it represented “a new springtime” for the Church, but as time goes on we can see how erroneous this is. Rather than a new springtime, the results of the Council have been more like a harsh and barren winter.

      This is not just opinion, but in fact can be clearly demonstrated using a variety of statistics – number of vocations, number of baptisms, marriages etc, number of parishes and dioceses, mass attendance, fidelity to teachings etc.

      I am sorry for such a long winded reply, but I hope it is of some use!
      Others will be able to give better responses than I.

      • Gabriel Syme,

        Thanks for that. Just a couple of other queries: how exactly do you envisage the renunciation of Vatican II to happen? Will it be decided by a Pope, the Cardinals, who? Moreover, given that the Pope has referred to the New Mass and New Evangelisation etc. (the fruits of Vatican II), in Papal Bulls, doesn’t that then make it – for want of a better terminology – legitimate? Aren’t Papal Bulls considered infallible and, subsequently, does this not make renouncing Vatican II unachievable?

        Marc

        • Marc,

          how exactly do you envisage the renunciation of Vatican II to happen?

          As the Council did not define any dogma, I believe a future Pope could simply retract / condemn its documents.

          What I think would be more likely to happen, however, is that – instead of binning the whole thing – the documents would be reviewed and “corrected” where necessary.

          Such an exercise has already been called for, several times, by Bishop Athanasius Schneider over the last decade. I think it will ultimately happen.

          Others, such as as the prolific theological author, Mgr Brunero Gherardini, have already highlighted problems with the council documents. Notably in his book “The Ecumenical Second Vatican Council: A Much Needed Discussion”.

          More recently, Archbishop Guido Pozzo, of the then Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, clarified that individuals need not give their asset to the Vatican II documents in order to “be Catholics” and can legitimately question them.

          With these and other examples you can see that, over time, there is a slow but steady weakening of the credibility, authority and necessity of the documents.

          Where we are now is a marked change from before, when the documents were held up almost as law and no criticism or dissent from them was tolerated whatsoever.

          This process of change is slow for various reasons, no least because of human pride. The men who were the “young turks” at the time of the Council are now very elderly men in the Church hierarchy. It will not be this generation of men who fix the problems definitively, but those who rise to prominence in the coming decades.

          It is important to note that not all of Vatican II is rubbish. Bishop Bernard Fellay (of the traditionalist SSPX) once stated that ~95% of the Council was acceptable, but that he was unable to give asset to the Council documents while the problematic 5% remained.

          Moreover, given that the Pope has referred to the New Mass and New Evangelisation etc. (the fruits of Vatican II), in Papal Bulls, doesn’t that then make it – for want of a better terminology – legitimate?

          It is important to note that even if we may have some dispute, we must always recognise the actions and decisions of the proper Church Authorities.

          if we did not do this, then we would essentially be over-riding their authority with our own, which is in fact a schismatic thing to do.

          And the New Mass, for example, is indeed legitimate. The Church Authorities have declared it as being a legitimate Catholic rite and indeed the standard form of worship for the latin part of the Catholic Church.

          So, that’s it.

          This does not take away the myriad of problems and abuses associated with it, nor the fact that in its current form it is light years away (in the sense of being much poorer) from even what Vatican II envisaged Catholic worship to be.

          While the Church is protected from destruction and from formally teaching error, its individual members are till very much capable of making errors.

          Aren’t Papal Bulls considered infallible and, subsequently, does this not make renouncing Vatican II unachievable?

          The Church cannot change its dogma, that which is true. But, it can choose to change other things – for example, the discipline of clerical celibacy, as we discussed elsewhere.

          As Vatican II did not define any dogma, then there is no reason it could not be discarded although, as stated, I think it is more likely to be corrected.

          As for infallibility, a Papal Bull is only a public decree concerning some matter. They may be serious or relatively trivial.

          Teaching which are infallible are either when the Pope elects to formally define some dogma “ex cathedra” (from the throne) or if some teaching is given which is in perfect continuity with what has always been taught/believed.

          I enjoy answering these questions as it makes me consider my own knowledge, but – as ever – I am open to correction by persons better informed than me (of which there are plenty, no doubt!).

          🙂

          • Gabriel Syme,

            I was with you until this:

            It is important to note that even if we may have some dispute, we must always recognise the actions and decisions of the proper Church Authorities. [Ed: this is more than a “dispute” – we are in the midst of the worst ever crisis to afflict Christendom.]

            if we did not do this, then we would essentially be over-riding their authority with our own, which is in fact a schismatic thing to do. [Ed: not quite – this was the charge against Archbishop Lefebvre. There’s a bit more to it.]

            And the New Mass, for example, is indeed legitimate. The Church Authorities have declared it as being a legitimate Catholic rite and indeed the standard form of worship for the Latin part of the Catholic Church. So, that’s it.

            Er, not quite.

            In normal times, with a sound Pope and sound authoritative teaching, you would be correct but we were forewarned, as far back as four centuries ago (Quito apparitions about the Church in the 20th century) and then again in 1917 (Fatima) that there was a diabolical disorientation to come in the Church and the world. No longer can we confidently point to “Church authority” without making essential distinctions. Father Gruner’s excellent book “Crucial Truths to Save your Soul” deals with this topic – here’s the blurb, followed by link where you can read the book online…

            “Catholics today must understand the limits of the Pope and bishops’ authority. The faithful must study and know the Faith for themselves, and they must understand the sources of Catholic dogma — especially the solemn and infallible definitions of Faith. Every Catholic must know how to distinguish the Ordinary and Universal Magisterium — which never contradicts either the definitions of Faith or the constant teachings of past ages — from the heretical ravings of Modernist clergy.

            This book will show the reader how to do these things, and how prior generations of Catholics dealt with such times of crisis in the Church as we see today. This book is the survival guide that you need, in this worst crisis in the history of the Church!
            https://fatima.org/books/crutial-truths-to-save-your-soul/

            As for the new Mass – it never ceases to amaze me that readers of this blog and our newsletter fail to imprint the following facts in their minds – we have published them over and over and over again for years now, so you’re lucky I’m in a good mood today or you’d be getting it in the neck, our Gabriel. The following facts should be sufficient for any Catholic to know that the new Mass is NOT pleasing to God, cannot BE pleasing to God, speaking objectively and the Vatican – in response to a dubia from a Bishop in South America acknowledged that it was “legitimate” only in the sense that it is currently permitted by the Church but that it cannot be guaranteed as “wholly orthodox and pleasing to God” – DUH!

            1) The new Mass was created with the active help of six Protestant ministers which was a great idea because the stated purpose of creating a new Mass was to remove everything objectionable to Protestants – such as the prayers expressing the Faith of the Church in the Mass as the Sacrifice of Calvary, represented. Those six Protestant ministers have publicly confirmed that they were not bystanders offering suggestions but they actively helped with the creation of the new Mass. Cardinal Ranjith (I think it was) said it would be “gone in a generation” (just before he was banished from the Vatican back to his own archdiocese!) Does any Catholic seriously imagine that this new Mass could possibly be pleasing to God. On the flip of the coin, of course, if it IS pleasing to God then we can all attend it, no problem. What’s the fuss? Why the seeking out of the Traditional Latin Mass? I don’t get it. The key reason why I returned to the TLM was because it dawned on me, eventually, that the new Mass could not possibly be pleasing to God, knowing its genesis.

            2) The new Mass was heavily criticised in a letter/report submitted by Cardinal Ottaviani to Pope Paul VI prior to its introduction:

            The accompanying critical study of the Novus Ordo Missae, the work of a group of theologians, liturgists and pastors of souls, shows quite clearly in spite of its brevity that if we consider the innovations implied or taken for granted which may of course be evaluated in different ways, the Novus Ordo represents, both as a whole and in its details, a striking departure from the Catholic theology of the Mass as it was formulated in Session XXII of the Council of Trent. The “canons” of the rite definitively fixed at that time provided an insurmountable barrier to any heresy directed against the integrity of the Mystery.

            As for celibacy – as I’ve said very recently on this blog, citing an essay by Pope John Paul II, it really IS integral to the priesthood. The Anglican convert Cardinal John Henry Newman said that even in his days as an Anglican vicar, he knew instinctively that celibacy was required. So, even with married vicars the norm all around him, he knew that to be “another Christ” in the world, a priest must be wholly given to God. In time, after this terrible trial of unprecedented crisis, heresy, scandal and so on, I am firmly of the belief that this notion that celibacy is a discipline which can be changed, will be nailed on the head, and it will become clear, through some form of proclamation, that those who feel called to the Catholic priesthood must know that they are responding to Christ’s call to leave everything to follow Him.

            • Editor,

              I don’t disagree with anything you say, but will point out:

              Marc didn’t ask if the new mass was “pleasing to God”, he asked if it was “legitimate” and it is legitimate, as you ultimately acknowledge. I restricted myself to answering what had been asked.

              Perhaps I am understanding something different to you regarding “legitimate”?

              I took the meaning in this context to be a valid (if deficient) mass, introduced by the proper authorities, which fulfils our mass obligation?

              I don’t dispute its problems (which I acknowledged before) and that it has been a grave error to introduce it – which is no doubt symptomatic of the modern disorientation in the Church.

              • Gabriel Syme,

                Well, the ONLY definition of “legitimate” given by the Vatican Monsignor who responded to the Bishop’s question (which was, essentially, in what way is the new Mass “legitimate”? (I’ve published both the Bishop’s question and the Vatican response in the newsletter more than once) was to say that the new Mass is “legitimate ” only in the sense that it is a rite currently permitted by the Church … Talk about damning with faint (or rather NO) praise!

                I would ask you to recall the shocking “Mass” offered in St Gabriel’s church in Uddingston and live-streamed across the world – we discussed those “Masses” a few short weeks ago. If those Masses are “valid”, then I’m the proverbial Dutchman Dutchwoman! The key fact here though is that the fact that this new Mass leaves room for such desecration in itself makes it wholly UN-orthodox and displeasing to God.

                What people tend to forget when they argue that if the new Mass is “valid” then that’s OK – is that they are actually referring to the Consecration. If the Consecration is “valid” then the Mass is valid. Not so. Remember, the Church requires us to attend Mass every Sunday and Holy Day. We are NOT required to receive Holy Communion at every Mass. For the Mass to be pleasing to God, the prayers around the Consecration, as well as the rest of the prayers, must be wholly orthodox and thus pleasing to God. The Vatican Monsignor refused to answer that part of the Bishop’s question positively, but said, instead that he restricted his answer to the first part – that the Mass was “legitimate” in the sense that it is currently a rite approved by the Church.

                I would go a bit further than your suggestion that the new Mass is “no doubt symptomatic of the modern disorientation in the Church” – I believe that the crisis in the Church is a result of the introduction of the new Mass.

                Your problem, Gabriel Syme, which I’ve told you before, is that you are far too charitable. A bad habit – you need to be more hard hearted, like me, moi… In fact… (and feel free to apply the following “tip” to my unworthy self, next time our paths cross 😀 ) …

                • Editor,

                  Thank you for that interesting reply.

                  I recalled hearing about the response the Bishop got about the new mass (which you mention above) but I now have a better understanding of the reply.

                  I believe that the crisis in the Church is a result of the introduction of the new Mass.

                  I had not considered that before: it makes sense that the chaos had some spark to set it in motion!

                  • Gabriel Syme,

                    It took me a long time to conclude that the apparent withdrawal of grace within the Church had to stem from the new Mass. I can be extremely slow at times. However, I like to think that I make up for my slowness on the uptake in other ways…

    • Marc,

      I would LOVE to be able to answer your question – but Gabriel Syme has done so, and then some!

      He put the answer in a nutshell when he writes:

      …authentic Catholics never want any change to the faith, only that it is taught faithfully, whole and entire.”

      I recommend, strongly, that you book for our Education Seminar in May – not least because Gabriel Syme is one of our panellists 😀

    • Marc,

      I think that Gabriel Syme has answered your questions perfectly . But what do you think – has he assuaged your concerns?

      It’s my turn to be “genuinely curious” 😀

      • Editor,

        I agree that Gabriel Syme has answered my questions perfectly and I thank him for doing so. Sleep easy tonight , madame, in the knowledge that my “concerns” have been comprehensively, nay, indubitably “assuaged.” 🙂

        • Marc,

          That’s great, but take a look at my response to Gabriel Syme’s recent answer – I felt the need to clarify a couple of things.

          Catholic Truth at your service!

          • Editor,

            Thank you. I’ll read Fr Grüner’s book that you have linked at some point next week – I already have a reading list which is longer than a Wagner opera!! 🙂

            Speaking of links with Catholic books, here’s one that I discovered fairly recently. You are doubtless already aware of it but, assuming you are not, here is the link:

            http://www.traditionalcatholic.co/free-catholicbooks/

            It contains literally years worth of free reading.

            • Marc,

              Thank you for the link – always good to promote good sites; I did advertise that website in our newsletter not many editions ago but I often wonder if any of you read it, I honestly do – this is how I look when I’m wondering…

              😀 I want to add one book to your list which I think you would find very helpful. Entitled Iota Unum [“not one jot, nor one tittle (of the Law) shall pass away…” Matt 5:18]: A Study of Changes in the Catholic Church in the XXth century, by Romano Amerio.

              Romano Amerio was episcopal consultant to the Central Preparatory Commission of Vatican II and the blurb on the back of the book claims that he “has written the best book on the pre-Council, the Council and post-Council.

              I’m sure it will be among the free books available at the “traditional Catholic” website – definitely worth adding to your reading list.

              • Editor,

                I remember seeing the website advertised, quite clearly, in your newsletter. I was simply reminding everyone else, in case they had forgotten, that’s all. 🙂

                Just had a quick check and Iota Unum is contained within the literature on the site. It is actually at the top of the list in the section entitled, “Problems with the modern(ist) Church.” I’ll stick on it the ‘laterbase’. Thanks for the recommendation.

                • Marc,

                  You’re a quick thinker!

                  Yes, I’ve just checked myself – there are some terrific books on that site; I must try to find a space to link it on our website.

                  Iota Unum is really a must-read. I’m sure you’ll find it helpful. Plus, of course, Archbishop Lefebvre’s Open Letter to Confused Catholics which is also on their list (and linked on our website, Links page, as well.)

  26. Three or four things of interest to me recently. The Rugby League teams in England are ganging up on the Catalan Dragons and are threatening to refuse to play them. This is because the Dragons have signed Israel Folau, a player who was sacked from his club in Australia and effectively prevented from earning a living there. His offence was to comment to the effect that unrepentant practising homosexuals would go to Hell. Allowing that we cannot predict the outcomes of Judgement, this falls broadly in line with orthodox Catholic teaching.
    I am not aware if any voices being raised in support of Mr Folau.
    Mr Mackay, late of the Scottish Government, was revealed has having exchanged emails with a 16 year old boy. He has been universally condemned by voices from all around the Scottish Parliament.
    Three years ago, three of the four party leaders were openly homosexual, Dugdale, Harvie and Davidson. Davidson apparently gave birth to a child by unnatural and immoral methods and was widely praised and lauded.
    Successive Scottish Governments have relentlessly steeped us in the mire of filth and perversion and this castigation of Mackay is an exhibition of utter hypocrisy and is further shameful evidence of this fall to the gutter. A boy of 16 is above the age of consent.
    This morning a married man, Phillip Schofield, has declared himself to be a homosexual and is being widely and publicly heaped with praise and good wishes.
    How low we have sunk.
    The response of the Catholic bishops, indeed any Christian, is complete silence, when the very stones should cry out. I have seen nothing in the MSM.

    A few weeks ago I did see Archbishop Cushley in a TV interview in respect of a report regarding the handling of abuse in the Church in Scotland. He come across as less than forthright, in my opinion.
    Such are our leaders. Those who should be foremost in carrying aloft the banner of Christ, in the forefront of the Faithful, are shirking the task, preferring to hide in the crowd.

    • Antoine Bisset

      You are spot on – our politicians could not be more confused if they tried, and our so-called Church leaders are a disgrace.

      The pity is, there is no lay person with the Faith and resources to lead a serious protest movement against both ignorant and negligent secular and religious leaders. Let’s pray for that to change, for a young Catholic, brought up in the traditional Faith, to respond to the grace to set about wakening up the sleeping mass of the people, both inside and outside the Church.

      For more on this theme, read about our forthcoming Education Seminar… Visit our thread entitled CT Seminar – Coming Soon! for more details, including how to book tickets. https://catholictruthblog.com/2020/01/26/ct-seminar-coming-soon/

  27. I found yesterday’s feast day thread too late and it is now locked to new comments.

    However, I just wanted to record here that I will pray for both Paul and Anthony as asked.

  28. Prayer in times of pestilence (Coronavirus!). The Stella Coeli.

    The town of Coimbra (Portugal) having been visited by a violent pestilence, the nuns of St Clare offered their prayers in the following form, whereupon the contagion instantly ceased. This holy prayer, left to the above-named monastery, has preserved many places from contagion where it is recited daily with confidence in God and the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary. It has arrested this scourge in many places.

    Stella Coeli

    The Star of Heaven that nourished the Lord
    drove away the plague of death which the first
    parents of man brought into the world. May
    this bright Star now vouchsafe to extinguish
    that foul constellation whose battles have
    slain the people with the wound of death.
    O most pious Star of the Sea, preserve us from
    pestilence; hear us, O Lady, for Thy Son honours
    Thee by denying Thee nothing. Save us, O Jesus,
    for whom Thy Virgin Mother supplicates Thee.
    V: Pray for us, O Holy Mother of God.
    R: That we may be made worthy of the promises
    of Christ.

    Let us pray

    O God of mercy, God of pity, God of benign clemency,
    Thou Who hast had compassion on the affliction of Thy
    people, and hast said to the angel striking them, “Stop thy
    hand;” for the love of this glorious Star, whose breasts
    Thou didst sweetly drink as antidote for our crimes,
    grant the assistance of Thy grace, that we may be safely freed
    from all pestilence, and from unprovided death; and mercifully
    save us from the gulf of eternal perdition: through Thee,
    Lord Jesus Christ, King of Glory, who livest and reignest,
    world without end. Amen.

  29. Dear All,

    A final reminder to join in the preparation for the rededication of England as Mary’s Dowry! And please get as many others as possible to join in. Even if you can’t manage the 33 day preparation starting in two days time on February 21st, at the very least please join in the Triduum of Prayer from March 26th – 28th and then the Rededication itself on March 29th.

    The rededication of England as Our Lady’s Dowry starts with a 33 day preparation from February 21st to March 25th. You can find the traditional St Louis de Montfort 33 day preparation before total consecration to Jesus through Mary, online, free of charge, here: https://www.fisheaters.com/totalconsecrationmontfort.html Your personal consecration takes place on March 25th, Feast of the Annunciation.

    After this, there is a three day period of prayer from March 26th – 28th when a Litany to the Saints and Martyrs of England is prayed each day. The litany can be found online here:- https://stuflesser.com/en/journal/litany-of-the-saints-and-martyrs-of-england/

    And then the re-dedication is made on Sunday 29th March and the rededication prayer is here https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5dd26c39e4888e54689c5a3f/t/5e1681de41d1895d960a582e/1578533343593/Act+of+Entrustment.pdf It is hoped that the rededication is going to be made in all Cathedrals and as many parishes as possible, and by as many groups and individuals as possible.

    The official http://www.behold2020.com website will list all the venues and hopefully people will be able to attend one of them for the rededication on the 29th March.

    • Westminster Fly,

      I’ll be posting a thread on the English Martyr, St Robert Southwell, whose Feast is on the 21st, so you may want to re-post your comment there. Have been deliberating whether to post it today or tomorrow, but may do so today now to allow time for everyone to mark the dates you give in their diaries.

      Thank you for the reminder.

    • RCA Victor,

      Very encouraging news indeed. I sent your link to a priest I know in Ireland – he’s been on the LMS course to learn the TLM but never offered it, so maybe this will give him a reason to try it – I mean, the re-Christianisation of his homeland? What’s not to like?!

    • That’s very interesting indeed, given that there have been Catholic schools in Scotland accepting of trans pupils, i.e. pupils returning to school as the opposite gender they were just before the holidays, LOL!

      I suppose it’s a case of better late than never, so welcome to this show of resistance from the Scottish Catholic hierarchy, at last.

    • Crofterlady,

      Good news indeed. I take Robin’s point but in the twin spirits of “better late than never” and “giving the benefit of the doubt”, we can welcome this news, assuming that perhaps the schools have acted “creatively” / independently, where pupils have been allowed to report back after holidays as boys/girls when previously they had been girls/boys (!) Maybe a Head Teacher has taken it upon him/herself to give that permission, but now they are on notice – it’s NOT allowed. Deo gratias!

  30. I meant to post this before:

    On Friday, 21st Feb, I saw a tweet saying “on this day” 19 years ago, Pope John Paul II created 42 (!) new Cardinals.

    Among the new Cardinals that day were:

    – Jorge Bergoglio

    – Walter Kasper

    – Theodore McCarrick

    Surely a contender for “the worst consistory ever”?

    Another shabby episode in the pontificate of St John Paul the Greatly Over-rated.

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