Women’s Football & Femininity…

Is there anyone out there who actually thinks that women playing football is even remotely “feminine”?  Take a look at this…

Now, try to keep a straight face as you make the case for women’s football – which is being praised and promoted across our TV screens like it’s the best thing since – you guessed it – sliced bread…

Women, in fact, seem to be praised and promoted for doing anything and everything that men do, with no sympathetic mention of the traditional role of women as wives, mothers, homemakers.  Indeed, being a wife and mother is now dismissed as “unfulfilling” – hardly surprising, then, that it is the one ambition to which most young girls do not aspire these days. The feminist movement has succeeded in making women ever more masculine – women’s football being the latest evidence of this disturbing phenomenon; and I believe women’s cricket is now also increasingly popular with sporty feminists. 

Yet, it seems to women like my unworthy self, that the “feminist” types today are very far from being feminine women, either in appearance (highly immodest dress is very common these days) speech (they can be as crude as any male) or demeanour – see the above clip from the world of women’s football for a classic example. 

Think of the planning, the preparation required in order to achieve success in games and move up to national and international level.  Doesn’t leave much time for marriage and the family, does it?  And if it doesn’t sit comfortably with marriage and family life, does that exclude Catholic women from pursuing the sport, at least professionally?   Or have Catholic women now dropped the adjective to become merely “women”?  Could be.  It was George Bernard Shaw (Irish playwright)  who said: “…it is difficult if not impossible for men [and women!] to think differently from the fashion of the age in which they live.”   Seems self-evidently true in our times. 

In any event,  personally, I cannot look at any female footballer, whether rolling in the mud crying with disappointment, or strenuously kicking a ball almost level with her head,  and think “feminine”.  Can you? 

Comments invited…   

46 responses

  1. Oh I do agree with you on this! Somehow it just not seem at all womanly to kick a ball about and especially not to engage in boxing. I hate to see male boxers but to see a woman squaring up to her opponent frankly appals me. Very few tennis players seem to be able to hit the ball without screaming like a pack of wolves either. Fortunately the delightful young “Coco” seems not to have lost her dignity and is an example to other older players.
    However in these days of so called equality it seems that anything the boys do must also be open to the girls!

    • Elizabeth,

      Your opening sentence makes it sound like you don’t often agree with us (if at all!) Surely, one does not really, actually, truly mean that? One can’t – can one? Or, should that be “one doesn’t… does one?” You’ll get my drift…

      I forgot about the female boxers or I’d have thrown in a mention of them, as well. Yes, they, too, look ridiculous. Upon that, we are further agreed – is one pleased?

      I would add only that the whole mentality of having to allow women to do exactly what men do, if that’s what the women want, is brain-dead “thinking” if you see what I mean… But if one disagrees with one on this, then believe me, one will revise one’s opinion… 😀 😀 😀

      • Sorry if it sounded as if I mostly disagree with you! Just meant to sound enthusiastic, as one does. Sometimes though I do disagree with you, but not often, it wouldn’t be worth risking my salary…

    • Lionel,

      Spot on! The very idea of women footballers (like women priests) is ridiculous per se. No need for any more explanation! Which is, no doubt, why you didn’t offer one! 😀

      • Editor,
        Yes indeed, they are not in their place; they do not fulfill their essential role of raising and educating their children.
        As far as the priesthood is concerned, they have always had a different prominent role in the Church…
        The Catholic Church venerates Our Lady as the pinnacle of womanhood, both as Mother and Virgin. For a woman to seek priesthood would assume a dimension distinct from the fulfilment of womanhood achieved by Our Lady. It would diminish Our Lady as the model of perfect and complete womanhood by introducing a further role for women, one in which She does not partake.
        The arrival of women priests would mean that Our Lady, despite her position as Mother of God and Virgin of virgins, no longer represents the pinnacle of womanhood. It would be an admission that she is lacking in her fulfilment of that role since she has missed out on a further role which is the priestly ministry.
        Clearly, for Catholics this would be an intolerable position. Our Lady is God’s perfect creature whom He has crowned as Queen of Heaven. She has received God’s favour and is lacking in nothing. Female ministry would be a contradiction of her position and therefore a contradiction of the marvels that God has done for Her.

  2. Way to go, Editor, you’ve covered pretty much all the bases in your introduction, leaving us to merely snap up some crumbs of agreement! But I think I can sneak in one little point: in addition to “feminism” being truly the antithesis of femininity, women playing mens’ sports also contributes to gender confusion.

    I wonder why we haven’t seen “masculinism” appear yet, as the polar opposite of masculinity? Here’s what would happen, for example, if that ideology were to appear: George Washington would be seen sewing the first American flag, instead of Betsy Ross…

    • RCA Victor,

      I think there is some fightback from men – Jordan Peterson springs to mind – not that I am a 100% fan, but he does talk some sense… I apologise in advance for the Glaswegian in the pink dress in the “discussion” below. She appears regularly in political programmes here, is very anti-Brexit, typical feminist (as you will see in the video, albeit near the end of the clip) and, let’s say (and this is my attempt at “charity”) she could do with thinking for a couple of seconds before she speaks… 😀 Laughed heartily at your closing swipe about George W sewing the US flag. Priceless! Did you think that up all by yourself, with no help from any woman? Seriously?

      • Jordan Peterson is very good – he’s lectured about the absent fathers being an issue for young boys. It’s something that seems very obvious, and yet he’s criticised for daring to suggest a connection between the increase in fatherless families and violence in young boys and men.

  3. the performance of some women in the World Cup Soccer has been less then feminine, or even what is considered normal. The media has jumped all over it. Controverserives, protests, drawing uteruses on their stomachs and parading around, openly attacking the US president, they fired male coaches from the Australian team for no purpose, lesbianism, mariage,jibs on the Pope, supporting ‘pride’ events, looking more like a group of revolutionaries for the commies and the NWO then women. but i guess some people still watch mainstream TV and believe their College Professors. Equality? more like insanity.

    • NewsAndTimes,

      “Equality – more like insanity“…

      How true. To the point, concise, but very VERY true.

      It should come as no surprise to you then, to learn that I agree with you – big time 😀

  4. Well put our eclectic editorix. Is there no subject you cannot enlighten your readers with with your expertise?
    Don’t answer that !
    ‘ My sports” are golf and rugby (among others)
    Apart from the fact that the majority of women who participate in male sports are either overt or wishful lesbians the fact that they do it, is akin to that of a dog dancing. It is remarkable.
    What I do admire are the few who can combine men’s sports with having a husband and having babies.
    Sadly they are few and far between.
    The captain of the U.S. soccer team today is a Marxist lesbian whose foul mouth has already besmirched her country and president. A sad fact demonstrating that countries (and our) descent towards the gates of shoal.
    One of the most annoying features of sports coverage on TV (and radio) is that on every ‘expert’ panel we must have a wifie shooting her mouth off – usually on a subject on which she nothing useful to offer.
    They even have a woman analyst on that most macho of sports – Rugby League.
    If our editor ever considers retirement from this great forum, she could offer her expertise on – I dunno – suomo wrestling perhaps, and augment her huge pension pot.

    Tongue firmly in cheek

  5. If they want to play football, rugby, cricket or get involved in boxing they should be competing with men. We’d soon see then how many gongs they would win.

    The latest craze now, on TV shows rather than real life, is for battles taking place between women and men, the women being the goodies and the men the baddies, with the ‘ladies’ always landing the knockout blow despite the men being built like well known brick structures.

    On second thoughts, it probably is the same in real life now.

    Even Joan of Arc would’ve come out second best.

    I wonder what Mary Poppins would think of it all.

    • Frankier,

      I completely agree about competing with men. I think that is the only way to measure women’s “success” in sports which have always been predominantly male.

    • Frankier,

      Definitely, they should be competing with men. I mean think of how ridiculous it would be if someone, from any of the umpteen genders now available, were to enter a competition for opera singers when their background in music was the odd Karaoke at the local social club? Hilarious if they won “Opera Singing Award” of the Year – but stranger things have happened – like, you know…

    • The#1 Itinerary,

      I can tell from this, your first comment on this blog, that – in the words of an old Scottish song – “you’re no [tr. not] a man [or woman] tae throw a word away…”

      If only I could remember the rest of the song, I could find it on YouTube for your entertainment.

  6. I am not a fan of football at the best of times. But female football teams? Laura I think you have a good point about them looking like men with long hair – it’s a wonder they don’t tie it back.

    Anyone ready for spotting the difference in this football match?

    • Theresa Rose,

      Brilliant! I can see right away that these women footballers are dressed more modestly for starters and are running around the field in exactly the same decorous manner that I move around my living room to serve tea and biscuits to my visitors 😀

  7. In their quest to prove they can do anything men can do, I fear many ‘wimmin’ are losing sight of their uniqueness.

    They were surely created to do everything a man CAN’T do.

    • Pat,

      Great point. The one thing that women can do that men can’t – and never will – is the one thing they don’t want to do! Bring new life into the world – it’s always there on the back burner until they’ve done all the “important” things they want to do first (like pushing bits of paper around an office!)

  8. These women look anything but feminine. It’s quite something to see them charging around a football field behaving like men. I do wonder if any of them are married with children, but I seriously doubt it.

  9. I think the fact that women’s sport is frequently just a 2nd rate copy of men’s sport is very indicative of an agenda.

    Women’s sport is important, but they need not attempt to copy men in every way possible. There are other sports women excel at, which would also give sports fans more choice.

    Women are pressed into playing the same sports as men, in an effort to push the notion that women and men are equals in every way – but this is false, given men are physically superior.

    And so here women’s football only achieves the opposite of what it tries to imply – there have been a number of embarrassing cases of international-level women’s national teams being hammered in games against local under-15 boys teams.

    it is telling that all high profile female competitions are all glib copies of male competitions, designed to ride to prominence by hanging onto the men’s coat tails, eg:

    Women’s 6 nations Rugby. Women’s (football) World cup. Women’s boxing etc.

    I don’t think women are very good at any of these things and are fundamentally physically unsuited to them – which is, of course, why the standard is so poor in comparison to men.

    I am all for women having the same opportunities for a career in sport etc, but they could play different sports, where they can genuinely excel and offer sports fans something new and exciting.

    Unsurprisingly, many of the women who play these traditionally male sports are homosexuals and so the sport then becomes a vehicle to promote same sex relationships.

    At least 2 of the US women’s football team fall into this category, including the player (team captain?) who has also been chasing publicity by regularly attacking President Trump.

    I think it must be very hard for young women today – they are bombarded with messages presenting everything which is unique and valuable about feminine identity as being worthless or demeaning, while being encouraged to try to compete with men, on men’s playing field.

    • Gabriel Syme,

      I totally endorse your sympathy for young women today – they are bombarded, as you say, with messages about feminism that are antithetical to the beauty of true womanhood. And, incredibly, instead of the clergy/hierarchy speaking out forcefully to correct these false ideas, they are either silent or actually promoting the worldly view of the career woman as the ideal, with motherhood a poor second – if even that.

    • RCA Victor,

      I published one of the original newspaper reports (from the Scottish Sun) on the above linked exchange between the teacher and the pupil on gender in the current, July newsletter, but I have to say that – while it is ridiculous beyond words that any school policy or education authority is insisting that there are more than two genders – I don’t like the way this particular pupil apparently set out to trap the teacher on film. I definitely don’t like the video-taping in class. This was becoming an issue some years back when a teacher-acquaintance of mine found himself on YouTube, filmed by a pupil when he was trying to discipline the class and perhaps not in the most gentle of tempers. That teacher had to involve his professional association in order to have the video removed from the internet. A teacher’s professional career is under threat already, as they are at risk from false allegations day in and day out, so the threat of appearing on YouTube – for whatever malicious purpose a disruptive pupil(s) may have in mind – is hardly going to help the already almost impossible task of recruiting to the teaching profession. In my world, pupils would not be permitted to have mobile phones in lessons at all, let alone use them to film their teachers.

      If the pupil had been truly and solely motivated by bringing out the truth in terms of the issue of “gender identity”, he could have made his point much more effectively by, for example, asking if the teacher’s own opinion is different from that of the school policy or did he feel obliged to tailor his opinion to the education policy? And/or he might have asked any number of questions relating to how to identify “other” genders; how to explain that scientists know that a male can never become a female and vice versa. Asking the pertinent questions would have been much more effective than merely restating the fact that there can only be two genders when the crazy policy makers in Aberdeenshire clearly don’t agree.

      By simply repeating his opinion, the pupil gives the appearance of trying to provoke the teacher to anger and all to promote his YouTube video. Not impressed.

      As for being expelled – well, video-taping in a lesson would be, surely, sufficient reason to have any pupil expelled irrespective of the discussion content. Would that pupil really feel comfortable attending lessons in that same school, where the entire staff, undoubtedly, would not be keen to teach him for fear that they, too, end up in a starring role on YouTube?

      Sorry, but while it’s great that Murray was ready and willing to take a stand in defence of the moral order, and articulate enough to express the truth about two genders only, he lacked a certain discursive skill to elaborate on the topic and, certainly, he lacked the foresight to be prepared for consequences beyond a few minutes of exclusion outside the walls of the classroom.

      And if he really wanted to bring out the issue of how this “gender identity” business is being treated in schools in Aberdeenshire, he might have made a video of himself facing the camera and speaking about his experience in lessons. It’s striking that, while he has the teacher clearly identifiable, he is off camera. Kinda diminishes the “hero” aspect of his foray into the world of investigative journalism.

      Murray needs to learn to think. Think, think, think, Murray. And when you’ve done that – turn your back on being a smart-alec kid and – think again!

  10. Men should get their own back by organising a knitting, sewing and crocheting World Cup.

    The standard of football at the recent women’s World Cup, despite only seeing glimpses on the News, would be, in my honest opinion, only on a par with the old juvenile football leagues.

    Any men following this type of farce should probably be on the sex offenders list.

    • Personally, I find all soccer boring which is why I never watch it, which will have you scratching your head and wondering how I know it’s boring if I don’t watch it; Long story… Don’t ask.

  11. I thought this article was the biggest pile of steaming manure I’d ever seen. Then I read the comments. What a truly odd collection of individuals.

    Editor: yes, I suppose people who don’t follow the crowd DO seem odd, to those who – well, er – follow the crowd. As you will note, those of our bloggers who come on here to comment, give specific arguments. They demonstrate that they can think for themselves. We don’t need daft so-called feminists speaking for us. Critics (like you) never do specify what it is, that you find so upsetting. They/you just go on the attack. Always intolerant and nasty comments. Pity. Anyway, don’t let us keep you…Thank you for popping by…

    • I know, such intolerant and nasty comments. Like suggesting that people who watch women’s football should be placed on the sex offenders register, for example.

      Editor: Typical of the modern mind (I use the word loosely) you twist a part of a comment meant to be funny, posted by our one of our resident comics – without acknowledging that he put a “probably” in there… “men who watch this blah blah should probably be placed…” Goodness, what a world, when every word is twisted upside down and turned inside out looking for evidence of political incorrectness if not a “crime” – Gerragrip. We are NOT politically correct here and never will be so, really, for your own peace of mind, best that you blog elsewhere. Byeeee!

  12. That GIF you’ve got proving the immorality of women’s football, by the way, is a scene from a movie. This would be like using the scene from Singing In The Rain as evidence in an article on climate change.

    Editor: I don’t recall anyone actually saying that women’s football was “immoral” but, hey, I’m open to every possibility. It’s certainly undignified, that’s for sure. However, if you can find a GIF of a woman playing football and looking dignified with it, feel free to post it here – I can’t find one.

    As for a scene from “Singing in the Rain” being used as evidence for climate change – would depend on the context, Sugar Plum. If I were writing an article on climate change (and don’t hold your breath) I might use it to show that people like me are quite happy with all sorts of weather, and that, look, even way back when they made this film, the weather was erratic. “Gerragrip, climate fanatics”, I’d say. Gerragrip!

    Now, as I said in reply to your previous rude comment, don’t let’s keep you. Thanks for popping by…

    • You completely undermine your own argument. You have inserted a GIF specifically intended to make women’s football look UNdignified. So if it is, as you state, impossible to find a real-life GIF of dignified women’s football, by definition every GIF of real-life women’s football must be UNdignified, so any one of those would have suited your purpose equally well. Thus it would have made your point more effectively had you used one such.


      Editor: what are you ON? That is one utterly nonsensical post.

      • It certainly is nonsensical. She seems to be saying that yes, women look undignified playing football but you should have picked a photo of one actually playing footfall instead of an actress in a film playing football. DUH!

        That would mean you couldn’t pick a still or a gif of a doctor performing an operation in a film because it’s not a real doctor performing a real operation or a real policeman (in a drama) arresting a real crook. DUH!

        • Josephine,

          Re your paragraph # 1 – I don’t actuallythink so because if you look at Megan’s actual words, she is saying that by picking that photo/gif Editor “specifically intended to make women’s football look UNdignified.”

          That would suggest that it is possible to find a photo/gif which makes women playing football look dignified and, like Editor, I can’t find one, I did look, honest!

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