Medjugorje: Intelligent Objectivity Required – It’s Not About “Faith”…

The article below, first published in the July 2019 edition of the Catholic Truth newsletter – available to read online, with footnotes, here –  is intended to cast light on the claims of the author of My Heart Will Triumph that Our Lady is appearing to her at Medjugorje. Catholics should only want to know the truth about alleged apparitions – to insist on believing in such claims without examining the evidence objectively, is unintelligent, if not sinful. Readers are asked, therefore, to keep an open mind and to read the commentary below in a truly Catholic spirit, revealing what we used to term a “Catholic mind” – that is, forming judgments rooted in the authentic teaching of the Church, and embracing the truth in a spirit of faith. It is true that here at Catholic Truth we do criticise the hierarchy for their errors and failure to teach the Faith, entire and true, but when they ARE doing their duty, as in the matter of pronouncing judgment on private apparitions, then we obey – without question – because that authority to judge, comes from God: this is why, even when priests and bishops have not accepted her messengers (e.g. in the initial days of the Lourdes apparitions), Our Lady, respecting the priesthood, never urges disobedience. We must, similarly respect the authority of the Church, in a spirit of faith, as expressed through the judgement of the local Bishop: If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don’t like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. (Saint Augustine)…

 

Patricia McKeever (Editor, Catholic Truth) writes…

I’ve made no secret of my disbelief in the alleged apparitions of Medjugorje. So, when asked by a friend to read the book My Heart Will Triumph written by one of the “seers”, I wasn’t too keen but agreed, really to please her; she is a very genuine, and a very kind person, who is a committed Medjugorje believer. In fact, however, contrary to what she obviously hoped, the book only served to confirm my scepticism about the alleged Medjugorje apparitions. In this piece, I’ll highlight a few of the writer’s many statements which make me doubt the veracity of her claims.

Humility…

“Self-praise is no honour” the old adage goes, so reading Mirjana’s “earliest memories” in which she saw herself as “always a little different from other children” (p.17) had me searching in my memory, and dipping into Fatima books, to see if any similar self-praise, however nuanced, had fallen from the lips of visionaries from Church-approved apparitions. I could find nothing. Neither could I find anything in the Fatima accounts which had any of the three child-seers apparently placing themselves on an equal footing with Our Lady – Mirjana: “It may sound strange, but perhaps Mary could be described as a visionary herself – she saw an angel from Heaven and even communicated with him…” (p.203).

Ecumenical/Interfaith:
Denial of the dogma that the Church is essential for salvation

Very much a child of our times, we find Mirjana’s reflections on her childhood friendship with a Muslim leading her to adopt the ecumenical/inter-faith mentality. This friendship, she says: “…taught me not to focus on the differences among people.” Another Medjugorje “seer” – Vicka Ivankovic – follows this line to its logical conclusion:

Q to Vicka: “Is the Blessed Mother calling all people to be Catholic?”
A from Vicka: “No. The Blessed Mother says all religions are dear to her and her Son.”

Catechism & Bible:
Modernist Propaganda

Similarly, Mirjana’s memories of being taught the Faith in her schooldays, is classic Modernist propaganda: “My catechism classes taught me to fear God more than to love Him. I was left with the image of an angry ruler who watched from Heaven to judge and punish me for every mistake.” (P.18) And, revealing her attitude to reading the Bible after the apparitions began: “Personally, I preferred to read the New Testament over the Old Testament. I had trouble reconciling the image of God as angry and jealous – as He is sometimes portrayed in the earlier books – with the God of mercy I had come to know through the apparitions. (p.202). The many revelations in the Old Testament of the great love and mercy of God – The Book of Hosea springs to mind – are ignored. Whether she has not actually read the Old Testament and she has accepted the Modernist propaganda uncritically, or she has been unable to understand it, is a moot point. Either way, she is patently wrong about the attributes of the “God of the Old Testament” who – from all eternity – is possessed of exactly the same attributes as “the God of the New Testament.” There IS only one God – and He is unchangeable, immutable. If He revealed Himself as “jealous and angry” in the Old Testament, then so He remains. Mirjana’s knowledge and judgment about the things of God comes across as impaired, not just as a youngster, or even as a new “visionary”, but throughout her life, as evidenced in this book.

Supernatural Activity…

In Mirjana’s account of the very first alleged apparition we read (p.30) that Vicka asked Our Lady for a sign “so that people will believe me” and then – in Our Lady’s continuing presence – turned to Mirjana to ask the time. At the end of the alleged apparition, Mirjana recalls this request and that she had thus looked at her watch and found the hands had completely turned backwards: “the 2 o’clock mark was in the place of the 10 o’clock mark and so on and the hands were ticking backwards. It all seemed so strange.” Strange? It was more than “strange” – it was, arguably, diabolical. Another very telling incident has Our Lady speaking rather thoughtlessly, if not very uncharitably indeed, about an individual. Mirjana writes:

“Dr Glamuzina, the sceptical paediatrician who examined us that morning, came to observe the apparition – or, more precisely, to observe us during it. Witnesses said her look of scepticism changed to fascination when she saw our faces. She asked Vicka to present a few questions to Our Lady and Vicka agree to do so. After a series of questions, the doctor “then asked if she could try to touch what we were looking at, and we presented the question.” “She may”, said Our Lady. Given permission, “the doctor reached out, but Our Lady suddenly ascended and disappeared. Dr Glamuzina immediately turned to us with a look of distress on her face and said “She’s gone, hasn’t she?” “Yes”, said Vicka. “She’s gone.” “Did she say anything?” “She said, “There have always been doubting Judases.” And then she left. Dr Glamuzina’s face filled with sadness. (P.63)

That claim alone, should serve as a warning to any Catholic with a modicum of knowledge about and devotion to Our Lady, that whatever it is that these young people saw at Medjugorje, it was not, and is not, Our Lady, who is full of grace, and thus (quite apart from the fact that it was Thomas, not Judas who doubted!) could not be guilty of such a lack of charity as that found in her description of Dr Glamuzina.2 Nor does Our Lady play tricks. Why give permission for the doctor to touch her and then disappear when she reaches out to do so? Makes no sense; it is not from Heaven.We must never forget that, as Scripture warns: “Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.” (2 Cor 11:14).

Then, after recounting an occasion when she was interviewed by “a foul mouthed policeman”, Mirjana speaks about the “excitement” that “every morning brought the promise of a new surprise or adventure” (p.81). She goes on to explain that sometimes “we experienced multiple apparitions on the same evening. The police chased us and tried to disrupt our plans, so to evade them we constantly changed the meeting place.” Seems Our Lady played along with these adventures, not at all in keeping with her more dignified apparitions at Lourdes and Fatima.

Perhaps one of the most disconcerting moments in the book is published on p.88, where, referring to a taped interrogation in 1981, Mirjana reports herself speaking rudely and crudely to the police interrogator as follows (with apologies for repeating the – albeit relatively mild – crudity):

Interrogator: I’ll ask you one more time. What did you see on that hill?
Mirjana: I saw Our Lady
Interrogator: You saw shit!
Mirjana: No, that’s what I’m looking at now.

Arguably, any Catholic girl raised in an average Catholic family, would neither speak so rudely to an adult, especially one in law enforcement, nor would she use crude language. For someone who is claiming to be in the daily presence of Our Lady – no way. Just doesn’t ring true. Paradoxically, Mirjana says she was surprised to see herself being so bold and that it would have been different had she been interrogated before she started seeing Our Lady but from 24 June, 1981 onwards [date of the first alleged apparition], “the timidity that had plagued me for most of my childhood had all but vanished.” Incredibly, then, thanks to Our Lady, Mirjana had become rude and crude – and, allegedly, this is what had convinced one of the policemen in the room that she was telling the truth about the visions.

On another occasion (p.118) she spoke disrespectfully to a government-appointed social worker, interviewing her about the apparitions; he responded to her comment that she may become a nun (which she didn’t – she’s married, with children) by asking what the nuns have ever done for Yugoslavia. Mirjana’s reply: “And what have you contributed? You sit in that chair picking at your nails. Is that a contribution?”

The Lady & The Moral Law – Abortion…

Most discordant of all among the unlikely statements attributed to Our Lady, is the following, quoted by Mirjana on p.108: “There were times when I wanted to confront the girls” [about the fact that they were going for an abortion in the morning, then turning up at afternoon classes and talked about it] “But through my daily apparitions and through prayer, Our Lady taught me that preaching to them and being judgemental would only drive them farther away. Instead, I learned to show them love, and I tried to live as an example of someone who knew God’s love.”

So, from that do we deduce that Our Lady does not approve of the pro-life activists who try to save the lives of the unborn outside abortion clinics? Must we keep silent in the face of the state sanctioned slaughter of unborn children? Is the wilful murder of the innocent child in the womb no longer a sin “crying to Heaven for vengeance”? Just showing “love” (whatever that means) will do the trick, will end the evil – is that it?

The Lady’s Changing Mind…

The well known saying that it is a woman’s prerogative or right to change her mind is, perhaps, epitomised in the Guinness Book of Female World Records which records The longest time spent dithering in a shop was 12 days between 21st August and 2nd September 1995 by Mrs. Sandra Wilks in the Birmingham branch of Dorothy Perkins.

Entering the shop on a Saturday morning, Mrs. Wilks could not choose between two near identical dresses which were both in the sale. After one hour, her husband, sitting on a chair by the changing room with his head in his hands, told her to buy both. Mrs. Wilks eventually bought one for 12.99, only to return the next day and exchange it for the other one. To date, she has yet to wear it.

Mrs. Wilks also holds the record for window shopping longevity, when, starting September 12th 1995, she stood motionless gazing at a pair of shoes in Clinkard’s window in Kidderminster for 3 weeks two days before eventually going home.

Mirjana has Our Lady in the same category as Mrs Wilks. “On December 23, 1982” she writes, (p.135-6). “Our Lady appeared to me as usual and, like always, it was a beautiful experience… but towards the end, she looked at me with tenderness and said: ‘On Christmas Day, I will appear to you for the last time.’ [Emphasis added].

Mirjana describes being “left stunned” and said she “spent most of the night begging God to give me more time with her.” Her ongoing desolation about the ending of the apparitions reveals her lack of resignation to the will of God in the matter, but anyway, no worries, the Lady changed her mind and voila! Mirjana’s visitations were to continue once a year, on her birthday, March 18, for the rest of her life (p.136/7). Then, on p.312 Mirjana reveals that, “recently turned 50”, she is “blessed to see [Our Lady] 13 times a year – on the second of every month and once on March 18”. So, Mrs Wilks, get ready to be replaced in the Guinness Book of Female World Records – or should that be the “Out of this World Female Records”, by the ever-changing mind of the Lady of Medjugorje.

Our Lady in Management Role…

Mirjana writes about the apparition of Christmas day, portraying her relationship with Our Lady as a partnership of equals – note, for example, the “we”. She delegates responsibility to Mirjana which she must, in turn, delegate to a priest of her choice. The simplicity of the portrayal of Our Lady in the Gospels, contrasts starkly with this very modern version of a business manager: “Our Lady and I talked about many things. We summarised our entire 18 months together – everything we had said to each other and everything she had revealed to me. She entrusted me with the tenth and final secret and she explained that I will need to choose a priest for a special role. Ten days before the date of the event foretold in the first secret, I am to tell him what will happen and when. He and I are then supposed to pray and fast for seven days and, three days before the event, the priest will reveal it to the world. All ten secrets will be revealed in this way…Our Lady also told me that she would appear to me once a year on March 18 for the rest of my life. March 18 is my birthday but Our Lady did not choose that date for that reason… Only when the things contained in the secrets start to happen will the world understand why she chose the 18 March. The significance of the date will be clear. She also said that I would experience some additional apparitions.

The Scroll

Mirjana continues (p.137): “She then held out something like a rolled-up scroll, explaining that all ten secrets were written on it, and that I should show it to the priest I choose when the times comes to reveal them. I took it from her hand without looking at it.

“Now you will have to turn to God in faith like any other person,” she said. “Mirjana, I have chosen you; I have confided in you everything that is essential. I have also shown you many terrible things. You must now bear it all with courage. Think of me and think of the tears I must shed for that. You must remain brave. You have quickly grasped the messages. You must also understand now that I have to go away. Be courageous.

Describing her heartbreak at Our Lady’s departure, Mirjana than turns her attention to the scroll: “Beige in colour, the scroll was made of a material akin to parchment – not quite paper and not quite fabric, but perhaps something in-between. I carefully unrolled it and found all ten secrets written in a simple and elegant cursive handwriting. There were no decorations or illustrations in the parchment; each secret was described in simple, clear words similar to how Our Lady originally explained them to me. The secrets were not numbered, but they appeared in order, one after another, with the first secret at the top and the tenth at the bottom, and included the dates of future events.” (p.138).

Mirjana goes on to describe the desolation she felt at this (she thought) final apparition, even admitting some time later that she “fell into deep states of depression anytime I thought about Our Lady’s absence for too long.” (p.139).

Visiting Purgatory…

After expressing her doubts about Hell – Mirjana asked the Lady about this as she saw “sentencing a soul to an eternity of suffering” as contrary to “the merciful and loving God I had come to know” – she was shown “a brief glimpse of Purgatory” which troubled her deeply (p.150), then, on p.151 we read that “Vicka and Jajov told me that on All Souls Day in November 1981, Our Lady appeared unexpectedly and said that she would take them to Heaven. Jakov panicked. He thought she meant forever. “Don’t take me!” He shrieked “Take Vicka. She has seven brothers and sisters and I’m my mother’s only child!” (p.151).

Now, just pause there for a second. Think about that. Does it sound like something Jakov, or anyone else, would say if they were really experiencing visits from Our Lady; an authentic reaction from someone genuinely convinced that they were being taken to Heaven, forever? Doesn’t look that way to me. Most of us would hand over a lottery win in exchange for a guaranteed place in Heaven. Mirjana’s account continues…

“Our Lady smiled, took them by the hand to ‘an expansive place filled with a beautiful light and indescribable joy. They also saw Purgatory and Hell… I’ve never seen Hell. I’ve never wanted to. But Our Lady showed me a glimpse of Heaven in the same way she showed me Purgatory… I cannot speak for God but I believe that if a person lives with peace, honesty and love, then he or she can go to Heaven. Faith and prayer help us to achieve that… But in the end I think it all comes down to love. Did we love God? Did we love our neighbour? Did we love ourselves? How did we express that love?” (p.152) Sounds like a cue for the John Lennon (Beatles) song: All you need is love… But then, he also wrote Imagine (a [much better] world with no religion)…

Fatima & Medjugorje “Connected”…

Mirjana refers to the Fatima apparitions on a number of occasions but says “I’m not personally called to interpret the secrets of Fatima but Our Lady affirmed in Medjugorje that both apparitions are connected to the triumph of her heart.” (p.155).

Odd, then, that Mirjana has accepted, lock, stock and barrel, the Vatican position on the Consecration of Russia and the Third Secret. One would have expected Our Lady – if she wanted to use Medjugorje to help bring about the triumph of her Immaculate Heart – to point out, as she explained at Fatima, that a period of world peace will only come once Russia has been consecrated in the prescribed manner. But no; we find Mirjana explaining that “military disasters” were suffered by the USSR because “the pope completed the consecration on March 25, 1984.” (p.154) Thus, Mirjana opines: “it seems that the second secret of Fatima came true (Ed: interestingly, without the conversion of Russia!) but what about the third secret?” She answers her own question: “…The Vatican finally released the third secret in the year 2000.” (p.154). So, that’s Fatima done and dusted, then…

Annual Peace March…

Despite apparently believing that the Fatima Message has been fulfilled – and thus we are now enjoying the promised period of world peace following from the Consecration of Russia – Mirjana reports that “Fr Slavko constantly urged people in the parish and around the world to pray and fast for peace. He held the second annual Peace March on June 24, 1993…” (p.260). This really does not chime with the belief that the Consecration has been completed in accordance with Our Lady’s request.

Pope John Paul II: Medjugorje Believer

Mirjana quotes from her alleged personal conversation with Pope John Paul II where he supposedly said “If I were not the pope, I would have gone to Medjugorje a long time ago.” (p.198)

Reflect: what kind of pope, if he genuinely believes that Our Lady is appearing on a daily basis, does not organise a visit there for himself? Then, later, Mirjana again highlights Pope John Paul II’s claimed belief in the visions: “Fr Jozo was now the guardian of the Franciscan monastery in Siroki Brijeg… In 1992 he went to the Vatican where he met Pope John Paul II. According to Fr Jozo, the pope passionately told him: “I am with you. Protect Medjugorje. Protect Our Lady’s messages!”

I simply do not believe any of the stuff in the book relating to Pope John Paul II. Not a single word. I have no idea whether there’s been confusion about what the Pope actually said, or a misunderstanding, or whether it’s all been fabricated. None of that do I know. I only know that I do not believe a single word of it. It just does not make sense. It’s as incredible as the idea that a top surgeon would hear about major surgical advances abroad, and yet refuse to go to investigate because he’s a top surgeon! Crackers. We don’t expect popes to visit every alleged apparition site, of course; but this isn’t just some wee wifie (tr. wife!) in an obscure village in the Scottish highlands claiming to see Our Lady from time to time. Medjugorje involves a half-dozen alleged seers receiving messages from the Virgin Mary every day, including messages which change the Church’s dogmatic teaching on salvation (see Ecumenical/Inter-Faith) and, in fact, add to divine revelation about Our Lady – showing us a Virgin Mother very different from that revealed in both the Gospels and at other approved apparition shrines (see Supernatural Activity). It seems very strange, to say the least, that a pope who really believed in such apparitions would fail to visit. It just doesn’t make sense. But don’t take my word for it: here’s a priest who is something of an expert in the field of private apparitions: “As for statements attributed to the Pope (e.g., “I heard that the Pope told Mrs Smith after Mass in his private chapel that he believes in Garabandal and Bayside;” “The Pope told Jack that he could go ahead and print that condemned book”) – no one is entitled to act on such gossip. The Church is governed by publicly promulgated statements – not by hearsay and personal communications.” (Father Peter Joseph, Apparitions True and False, Christian Order, October, 2004).

Mirjana Prayed with Our Lady…    

On p.245 we read: “Our Lady appeared suddenly around 1.50.pm. She and I prayed the ‘Our Father’ together three times – once for the sick, once for those who had not yet come to know God’s love, and once for everyone present…”  

Compare the above claim, with that of St Bernadette of Lourdes when she first saw Our Lady at the Grotto: “Without thinking of what I was doing I took my Rosary in my hands and went on my knees. The Lady made with Her head a sign of approval and Herself took into Her hands a Rosary which hung on Her right arm. When I attempted to begin the Rosary and tried to lift my hand to my forehead, my arm remained paralysed, and it was only after the Lady had signed Herself that I could do the same. The Lady left me to pray all alone: She passed the beads of Her Rosary between Her fingers but She said nothing; only at the end of each decade did She say the “Gloria” with me.  [Emphasis added].

And the two reasons why Our Lady only prayed the Gloria in the Rosary, is because she could not pray to herself, obviously, nor could she ask God to forgive her for her trespasses, since she is sinless, and so she prayed only to give glory to God. That is one of the major claims which cast doubt, to say the least, on the Medjugorje phenomenon. In any Church-authorised process of investigation into alleged apparitions, the investigator, normally the diocesan bishop – only needs to find one such error and that has always sufficed to dismiss a claim as false. People may genuinely believe that they are seeing Our Lady but may, in fact, be experiencing diabolical deceit.

Some Miscellaneous Considerations…

On p.299 Mirjana lists “many of [Our Lady’s] words from the apparitions [which] remain imprinted in my thoughts” including:“My children, do you not recognise the signs of the times? Do you not speak of them?” (April 2, 2006). But what does this mean? Nowhere in the book is this explained; indeed, far from Mirjana speaking of the signs of the times – the increasing state sanctioning of grave sin, through for example, abortion and LGBT+ “rights”, aided and abetted by none other than Pope Francis who, in the early days of his pontificate urged Catholics not to “obsess” about abortion, and, when asked about homosexual activity, scored an own goal for God’s moral law/Catholic sexual morality with his infamous “Who am I to judge?” Far from speaking of these shocking signs of the times, which are descending further and further into the nihilistic abyss, where people no longer know what is right and wrong; far from condemning the part which Pope Francis is playing is this turning away from God, Mirjana believes that “The Holy Spirit always gives us the Pope we need… now we need Pope Francis.” (p.305). Sorry, but the Church needs Pope Francis like Buddhists need a third world war.

Mirjana is certainly very much a Catholic of our times. She refers to “Saint” John Paul II (p.204), and notes (p.203) that when he introduced the Luminous Mysteries of the Rosary in 2002, the Miracle of Cana was one of them As we’ve already noted, she accepts the Vatican version of the Third Secret and considers the Consecration of Russia to have been completed.
Given the thousands of messages given to Mirjana and her co-visionaries by, allegedly, Our Lady, it seems odd that Our Lady makes no reference to the Consecration of Russia and the full disclosure of the Third Secret because, according to Mirjana (p.145), Our Lady said: “What I started in Fatima, I will complete in Medjugorje. My heart will triumph.” (Message, January 2, 2016).

Yet, despite making many references to “peace”, this Lady never mentions the Consecration of Russia… “In these peaceless times, I am coming to you to show you the way to peace.” (August 2, 2006). What about the guarantee of peace given to Sr Lucia, Fatima, once the Pope has consecrated Russia in the prescribed manner?  Doesn’t add up. Not remotely.

Then there’s the story of the shoes which Mirjana keeps in a glass case in her home. Apparently, a man had placed them at the statue of Our Lady just before an apparition at the Cenacolo Community alongside the usual petitions, flowers, and rosaries left by pilgrims. Turns out the shoes were placed by a man who had been a close friend of Pope John Paul II “who had told him that he had always wanted to go to Medjugorje but as pope he was never able to… “
So, one day the man joked with the pope saying, “If you never make it to Medjugorje, then I’ll go and bring your shoes there. It will be as if you were able to set foot on that holy ground.” (p.306-7).

This whole business of a pope who wants to visit a particular place of alleged apparitions not being able to do so, just doesn’t ring true – especially at this time of chaos in the Church where popes are visiting mosques and synagogues and nobody bats an eyelid. Indeed, in a place which is drawing so many people, contrary to Catholic traditional practice where it is customary to wait for the permission and approval of the local Bishop before treating a place like a “shrine”, an argument could be made that the pope should go there to praise the good, well-meaning intentions of the tourists/would-be pilgrims, yes, but more importantly to make a public statement reminding everyone of the need to wait for formal Church approval. In this way, the pope would be minimising the possibility of diabolical influence. So, I just do not believe the claims made about Pope John Paul II, “the Medjugorje believer and unrequited pilgrim.” Doesn’t ring true.

The claim about “secrets” doesn’t ring true, either; indeed, Mirjana’s comment on p.313, serve to reinforce the suspicion that these “secrets” are nothing to worry about: “When Jakov and I get together we usually laugh and joke more than we talk, and I often think: If only all the people who are so afraid of the secrets could see us visionaries and how much we laugh! After all, if we who know the future don’t let fear darken our lives, then why should anyone else? All of which begs the rather obvious question, why would God send His Mother to earth with “warnings” – ten “secrets” – that are clearly nothing to worry about?

And again, comparing these alleged seers to the behaviour of the Fatima seer, Saint Jacinta (left) after the vision of Hell, when she was consumed with a zealous desire to make sacrifices to save souls from falling into Hell, we have to assume that whatever was revealed in the Medjugorje visions had nothing to do with the loss of souls – and what else could possibly be of any lasting consequence?

It is also, surely, significant that in all of the conversations between Our Lady and Mirjana there is no mention of the crisis in the Church, and, indeed, that the Lady appears to have no problem with the new vernacular Mass, instead of the official language of the Church – Latin: “After the rosary comes the international Mass. Although it’s celebrated in Croatian, pilgrims use headset radios to listen to live translations in their own languages… English, Italian, Polish, German, French, Spanish, Arabic, Korean and more, depending on the pilgrims in town at the time.” (p.317) Not only does Our Lady make no mention of the Mass controversy or the wider crisis in the Church, she speaks of this as being “a time of grace” (p.327).

Given that, as we’ve already noted, Our Lady is quoted as saying that “What I started in Fatima I will complete in Medjugorje…” it seems strange that she does not mention the signs that Russia has, indeed, spread her errors, which we see, firstly, in the spread of Communism across the world, Russia having been the first country to adopt it as a form of government in 1917 – the year of the Fatima apparitions; and in the rise of attacks on marriage and the family, and even human life itself. Indeed, Pope Francis is presiding over the scandal of Pontifical Academy for Life, now a tool of the United Nations which pushes the “human rights” agenda – contraception, sterilization, abortion, euthanasia etc., taking cover behind “climate emergency” euphemisms such as “sustainable growth”.

In 2017, Pope Francis’ new appointments raised eyebrows; a minority were Catholic clergy, while an Argentine rabbi, an Anglican priest and a number of non-Catholics, who were either members of other religions or nonbelievers, were included.  Importantly, the new statutes dropped a statement which, previously, Academy members had been required to sign, promising to defend life in accordance with Church teaching.

Now, since Our Lady, according to Sr Lucia of Fatima, had already warned of attacks on the family it seems very curious, to say the least, that she would fail to mention the unspeakable attacks on the family and human life, evident even at the time of the first Medjugorje visions, and now tragically aided and abetted by Pope Francis. Thus, her chosen “visionaries” were unprepared for the onslaught which, even at the time of the first visions (1980s) was well underway and this seems strange, not least because their vocation, it would transpire, was to marry and have children. It is puzzling that Our Lady would describe this period of our history as “a time of grace” when evils such as abortion are being promoted as good, and defending God’s moral law – e.g. by condemning LGBT+ “rights” – is a “hate crime”. A time of grace? Really? How so?

And, of course, the above, sadly, is only the tip of a very large iceberg in terms of the Francis pontificate. The Pope’s rebukes to those now pejoratively labelled “traditional” Catholics (as if any Catholic may reject Tradition and remain Catholic – it’s not possible) are frequently reported in this newsletter and widely discussed across the internet (see From the Blog… p.13). It is, therefore, difficult to comprehend Our Lady’s failures to warn against this pontificate, given the gravity of what is happening; her readiness to name-call a doctor a “doubting Judas”suggests it can’t be a “charity” issue. The vision at Medjugorje appears to be fairly outspoken when she converses with the “seers” compared to her silence in the Gospels and her sparing use of words at Lourdes and Fatima.

The Point of it All…

Mirjana shares what she has learned from the visions. “After experiencing Heaven for all thee years, I believe I can finally answer the question that burned inside my heart for so long – the same one that burns in every human heart – what’s the meaning of life?” Adding: “Many people expect a complex answer. My answer, however, is the shortest sentence in this book. Love… Jesus is love incarnate. The Blessed Mother leads us to love… On March 2, 2007, Our Lady appeared with particular conviction and gave me the following message: “Today I will speak to you about what you have forgotten: Dear children, my name is Love… the Great Love sends me.”  (P.333)

Does it seem likely, really, that God would send Our Lady to appear to a group of young people in 1981, and keep appearing to them over a period of many years up to and including the present time and say… well… nothing of any significance? At a time when cardinals and bishops are expressing deep concerns about the state of the Church with the faithful confused and distressed at the many scandals – not least the child abuse scandals – is it really likely that Our Lady would appear on a regular basis to lay Catholics and say not a word about any of this? An unkind interpretation of Mirjana’s book might lead some to conclude that Our Lady came to Medjugorje to set up the Mirjana Fan Club or, at best, to act as a personal spiritual director to the “seers”. There seems to be no real purpose in the apparitions. Even if we broke into Mirjana’s home to steal the scroll containing the alleged secrets, we’d be none the wiser: “I’ve kept the parchment in a secure place…I could even have it sitting on my living room table and you wouldn’t know what it is. When the time comes, those who need to read it will be able to.” (p.327).

Why do critics refuse to believe the truth of the Medjugorje apparitions?

Fatima is the most important event of our times. Its clear purpose was to save souls from falling into Hell. Satan isn’t about to let that put him on the back foot. He has to find a way of replacing and surpassing the Fatima Message and nobody can doubt that he’s had a great shot at it. Michael Davies (RIP) studied the Medjugorje phenomenon in depth and his findings are well worth considering…

My object in this study is simply to show that there is a case against the authenticity of the Medjugorje apparitions, a viewpoint which has been kept from most Catholics due to the vast publicity campaign in favour of authenticity conducted in the mainstream Catholic media (which derives considerable financial benefits from Medjugorje advertising). It is not without significance that the liberal Catholic journals, which have not shown the least interest in the Fatima message, are enthusiastic in their support of Medjugorje. I know that it was the view of the late Hamish Fraser [famous Scot, Communist convert] that Medjugorje was a means being utilized by Satan to subvert the message of Fatima.

Before providing documentation to prove the falsity of the alleged apparitions I will give just two examples of the degree of credibility which should be given to the self-styled “seers” of Medjugorje. The “seers” and their Franciscan manipulators have consistently maintained that during their “ecstasies” they are immobile and without communication with the outside world. A French journalist wished to test this claim, and while one “seer”, Vicka, purported to be in ecstasy, he made a stabbing movement towards her eyes with his fingers. Vicka gave a start and threw her head backwards. Fortunately, the entire incident was filmed. The girl left the room and returned a few minutes later with one of her charismatic mentors, an expelled Franciscan. She claimed that at the moment the journalist made the movement she was witnessing an apparition of the Virgin Mary with the Child Jesus in her arms, and the Child slipped. “I made a movement to stop Him from falling. That’s all.” (Ed: you can see this entire incident in the short video below…)

There could hardly be a more evident case of outright lying. It is inconceivable that during an apparition of Our Lady with the Child Jesus, the Child could possibly slip. If, per impossible, this did happen, it is stretching coincidence beyond the bounds of credibility to be asked to believe that it happened at the precise moment the journalist made the movement towards Vicka’s eyes, and, finally, if she had been speaking the truth she would have moved forwards towards the apparition and not backwards!

The second incident is documented in the 1990 statement by Mgr. Zanic (Ed: at that time, Bishop of Mostar). It concerns a Franciscan priest, Father Ivica Vego, who was dispensed from his vows and expelled from the Franciscan Order by a direct command of Pope John Paul II as a result of his immoral conduct, which involved the seduction of a nun, Sister Leopolda. When she became pregnant they both left the religious life and began to live together near Medjugorje where their child was born… But… he refused to accept his expulsion and continued to celebrate Mass, administer the Sacraments, and pass the time with his mistress. Why mention such a distasteful event? The reason is that the “seers” claimed that Our Lady appeared to them on thirteen occasions stating that Father Vego was innocent, that he was as entitled to celebrate Mass as any other priest, and that the bishop was harsh! Any reader with a true sense of being a Catholic, a sensus catholicus, will need to read no further to realize the full extent of the mendacity of the self-styled “seers”, a mendacity which cannot be excused simply on the grounds that they have been manipulated by their Franciscan mentors. What credibility can be given to those who claim that the Mother of God told them repeatedly that an immoral priest, expelled from his order on the instructions of the Holy Father himself, is innocent. and that the Bishop who had taken the only course open to him, was the guilty party! And how does a so-called reputable theologian, such as Father Rene Laurentin. who has made a fortune from books on Medjugorje react when confronted with such facts? Mgr. Zanic gives us the answer. He begged the Bishop not to publish details of the incident. Mgr. Zanic tells us that this has been Laurentin’s consistent position, to hide the truth and defend falsehood. Despite the fact that the truth about Ivica Vego can no longer be denied, his prayer book is still sold in Medjugorje and beyond in hundreds of thousands of copies! One might add, almost as an afterthought, that if Our Lady had truly appeared at Medjugorje on about 26,000 occasions by the end of 1993, a claim which in itself defies credibility, she did not bother to warn the Croatian people of the coming onslaught, which they would have to undergo from fanatically anti-Catholic Serbia. Michael Davies: Medjugorje: A Warning, The Remnant Press – possibly out of print but available to read in full online at http://www.catholictradition.org/Mary/medjugorje.htm

Why do so many Catholics believe in the Medjugorje apparitions ?

Tales of miracles convince many faithful that Medjugorje is true. However, Michael Davies has dug deeper in his study linked above, to uncover the facts: The majority of the pious public has naively fallen victim to the great propaganda, the talk of the apparitions and of healings… They are unaware that not even one miraculous healing has occurred that could have been verified by competent experts and institutions such as the “Bureau Medical de Lourdes”. No one knows of any healed from Hercegovina. Everyone knows that little Daniel, old Jozo Vasilj, Venka Brajcic and others cited in the first books about Medjugorje were not healed. (Michael Davies, Part 3 on the Fruits of Medjugorje)

Editor’s considered comment…

In view of all of the above, I regret having to disappoint my friend, but my belief that it is, in fact, the Devil, not Our Lady, who is appearing at Medjugorje, has been reinforced by reading Mirjana’s book. I will seek to have a copy of this edition/link to this blog discussion sent to Mirjana, as a courtesy. But before bringing this article to a conclusion, I think it is important to publish, below, a relatively recent statement from the Bishop of Mostar, reported in the local print media:

From Total Croatia News, 27/2/17…

The Bishop of Mostar-Duvno Ratko Perić issued a statement on Monday in which he claimed that Virgin Mary had never appeared in Međugorje, adding that alleged apparitions were more a form of manipulation from visionaries and priests who worked there, reports Jutarnji List on February 27, 2017.

“Considering everything that this diocesan chancery has so far researched and studied, including the first seven days of alleged apparitions, we can say: there have been no apparitions of Our Lady in Međugorje”, said Perić, whose bishopric includes Međugorje.

He pointed out that the Church had repeatedly investigated the phenomenon, starting from the early 1980s and ending with a commission which was established by Pope Benedict XVI in 2010, as well as with the positions of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in 2016. “The position of the chancery of this diocese has been clear and decisive: there are no credible apparitions of the Virgin Mary”, said Bishop Perić. He denied the credibility of apparitions during the first days of the Međugorje phenomenon, saying that there were numerous contradictions in the statements of the alleged visionaries of Our Lady in Međugorje. “Once we transcribed audio tapes containing conversations between pastoral staff in the parish of Međugorje in the first week with the boys and girls who claimed that they had seen Virgin Mary, we can say with certainty that alleged apparitions are not credible. And, if Our Lady, Mother of Jesus, has not appeared – and [she] has not – then they are alleged visionaries, these are alleged messages and alleged secrets”, said the Bishop of Mostar.

Bishop Perić also spoke about “ambiguous phenomena” connected with alleged apparitions, claiming that the “woman who appears” in Međugorje behaves quite differently from the true Mary, Mother of God, according to apparitions which the Church has so far recognized as authentic. “She often does not speak first, she has a strange laugh, she disappears after certain questions and then returns; she obeys the ‘visionaries’ and priests to come down from the hill to the church, although reluctantly. She is not sure how much time she will be visible, allows some of the visionaries to stand on her veil which is on the ground, allows others to touch her clothes and body. This really is not Our Lady from the Gospel”, said Bishop Ratko Perić.

Pope Francis recently appointed his special envoy to Međugorje, Bishop Henryk Hoser from Poland, who will study the pastoral issues. Hoser will visit Međugorje, but he will not launch a new investigation of the alleged apparitions of Our Lady, which supposedly began in 1981 and continue to this day. He is expected to collect information about the pastoral situation and the needs of the faithful who come to Međugorje from around the world. Local Bishop: There Were No Apparitions of Virgin Mary in Međugorje, Total Croatia News, 27/2/17

What should Catholics who are believers in Medjugorje do now, in order to please God?

The following advice from a priest expert in the matter of alleged private apparitions spells out the only legitimate path for any sincere Catholic to take, having been made aware of the truth about Medjugorje…

The simple fact is that most claimed revelations are false. It is extremely foolish, therefore, to devote oneself to propagating a disapproved or dubious message, which might actually come from the Father of Lies. If one day you see its falsity for yourself, you will regret it enormously, and be unable to undo the harm done to others. On the other hand, there are more than enough approved messages to spread, if you want to spread them. It is better to keep to what is countenanced by the Church, than to go it alone and risk being a dupe of the devil. (Father Peter Joseph, Apparitions True and False, Christian Order, October, 2004)  

 

Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us! Immaculate Heart of Mary,  pray for us!

 

Comments invited…

 

39 responses

  1. Q to Vicka: “Is the Blessed Mother calling all people to be Catholic?”
    A from Vicka: “No. The Blessed Mother says all religions are dear to her and her Son.”

    What?!******!

    How can that possibly be what Our Lady said?

    Put that together with the other amazing statements in that article / book review, and it’s very obvious indeed, that whoever those alleged seers are talking to in Medjugorje, it’s not Our Lady!

    • Fidelis,

      I couldn’t believe it when I read that in the editor’s book review. That one line alone is enough for any Catholic to discount Medjugorje. It’s a diabolical ruse!

  2. (March 24th, 2010 12:39 am) The content of the alleged “messages” which conveyed the false “madonna” is completely oriented in the direction of “the great universal brotherhood” advocated by the lodges… Even the “gospa” plays “the great brotherhood” by letting fully excited pilgrims jostle her!… What a vulgarity!
    If these so-called “messages” and “strange behaviour” proved true, frankly, it would be unworthy of the Blessed Virgin Mary Immaculate who is at the opposite of all this fuss…
    Moreover, it is absolutely unthinkable that the Holy Virgin, the true One, might be a “factor of division within the Church” by urging the clergy and faithful to disobey the Ordinary and to revolt against him. This argument is, in my opinion, the most determinant to expose this sham.
    I find it insulting to Our Lady that they dare consider that She can behave in a manner as ordinary and absurd.

    • Lionel,

      Spot on! You are completely correct. I fully agree with you. And not just because you replied “Excellent!” to one of my comments below 😀

  3. Fidelis’ response to that quote took the astonishment right out of my mouth….a quote directly from the mouth of Satan.

    I’d say it is probably not reasonable to expect Novus Ordo Catholics to think like Catholics, when (a) they no longer worship like Catholics, and (b) they have been “catechized” with the indifferentism of Vatican II. Lex orandi, lex credendi comes to mind.

    It is also highly incongruous to address these people as “seers,” when they are in fact blind. Even the title of the book gives it away: “My Heart Will Triumph.” Oh, you mean the Immaculate Heart? How about the Sacred Heart?

    Your analysis is thorough and excellent, Editor. I’d say the Medjugorje rubbish belongs in the same class as the Divine Mercy “apparition.”

    • RCA Victor,

      “Thorough and excellent…” ? Me? Moi?

      Well, I’m grateful, of course, but it’s not quite the same as being told I should be awarded an Oscar (see Therese’s post below)…

      Still, I know you mean well…

  4. What strikes me most about the messages are their banality. The Gospa never says anything profound, it’s verbal diarrhoea, like the things people post on Twitter. Also, the seers have become rich from the apparitions. It’s a career for them. They are no better than séance mediums or fortune tellers.

      • John,

        Sadly, I have to agree.

        In all humility, I have to say that were I to invent an apparition, I’ve be able to produce much better messages. Positive messages about being full of joy and thankful…

    • Miles Immaculatae, I agree about the banality of the seers messages. As for becoming rich from the apparitions – well they cannot take riches with them when they die.

      What a difference when you consider Saint Bernadette to whom Our Lady appeared at Lourdes who entered religious life at Nevers, France.
      Also the three children at Fatima who were shown hell and who made many sacrifices and practised penance to save souls from going hell. Lucia also entered religious life at first with the Sisters of Saint Dorothy and later entered Carmel. She outlived Jacinta and Francisco by a number years.

      I think Medjugorje is about hiding the message of Fatima to the detriment of many souls.

  5. I have to say that’s there’s something in the gaze of Mirjana that is unlike any authentic seer. She just doesn’t look authentic.

  6. ….’Thank you for responding to my call’…

    And every one of these ‘messages’ as bland and as instantly forgettable as the one before!

  7. Thanks to all for your comment so far.

    I have now emailed the link to this thread to both the publisher and to a website named Medjugorje Live since it’s not easy to find a direct email address for Mirjana. Hopefully, one way or another, she’ll get to read the review and comments here.

  8. I doubt even that the Devil is appearing in Medjugorje. It’s probable that the initial apparitions were demonic in origin, but I believe that for a long time now the seers have merely pretended to have visions. I think they are lying. They have gotten a lot of attention and money for their lies, which is why they are perpetuating the deception.

    • Miles Immaculatae,

      I totally agree – these alleged seers as far as I can see, lying through their teeth. That becomes very obvious from the video clip of the “ecstasy” and the ridiculous explanation afterwards, LOL! She knows that she is not telling the truth in that video clip. How can those people keep this up all these years, knowing they are deceiving people in their millions from all over the world? Having said that, I’d hate to think they were deliberately lying but maybe don’t know how to right the situation, having let it go on for so long.

      I looked at some photos of Mirjana online and I saw a very tired face – I’m sure these people must have difficulty sleeping at night, maybe wondering how to get out of this fix. This photo shows Mirjana with some deep bags under her eyes. Is this a sign of a guilty conscious, perhaps?

  9. Editor

    You deserve the equivalent of an Oscar for reading such twaddle and taking the time to offer such a detailed exposition. I commend your patience. I never thought this hoax even slightly credible, and after seeing the recording of one of the seers (I think it was Vicka) reacting sharply when someone pretended to poke her in the eye when she was in the midst of a “vision”, and she explained that she jumped back because Our Lady had nearly dropped the child Jesus and she (Vicka)was attempting to catch Him before he fell, I can only be amazed that anyone could be taken in by so obvious a fraud.

    • Therese,

      Funnily enough, I was just wondering how I could get an Oscar. When I asked a friend, she suggested adopting a boy and calling him Oscar 😀

      I agree about the Vicka incident – it’s incredible that anyone would fall for that… (get it? Fall? … Watch the clip again 😀 )

      • There once was a “seer” named Vicka
        Whose focus was shown to flicka.
        Then she covered her tracks,
        While inventing some facts,
        With behavior worthy of Wicca.

        • I hope those who have innocently believed these apparitions can see clearer now and have the humility and gratitude to say say so, and discourage people from believing otherwise many souls could be lost. I’m sure, this public book review will save souls, even if it only saves one soul it will be worth it.

          • Jean Marie,

            It would be wonderful to think our review might help even one person to see the truth about Medjugorje. It would even make it worth reading more of RCA Victor’s poems 😀

  10. CBucket,

    That’s exactly my own sentiments; these “seers” have got themselves tied up in knots over this whole scam. Let’s hope they publicly repent, sooner rather than later. It will go very badly for them indeed, at their judgment if they continue to allow this Medjurgorje “Lady” to spout her heresies.

  11. That book is just unbelievable. How can any intelligent person actually think those “seers” are seeing Our Lady? It really defies logic that this “phenomenon” could possible be the Mother of God given the way she contradicts basic Christian teaching., e.g all religions equal.

  12. The message are definitely banal – there’s just nothing of any importance that we don’t already know in any of them. There’s just no logic to the idea that God would send his mother to earth for so many years and to such a large group (6?) of people to say diddly-squat.

    It’s hard to say if these alleged seers are lying or just delusional. I would say delusional except for that video clip where Vicka is making excuses for pretending to be in a trance.

  13. I agree with Petrus’ point that the line about Jesus and Mary liking all religions is enough in itself to reject the Medjugorje hoax,.

    it is deeply irresponsible of Church authorities to allow this nonsense to continue, when it promote such dangerous messages. The status quo of this “toleration” of a scam both threatens souls and the credibility of the Church.

    • Gabriel Syme,

      Well said – the Vatican is too worried about a possible schism over this, which is laughable given that we’ve been in a de facto schism for over 50 years now.

    • Westminster Fly,

      Between her own words in her own book and that link, Mirjana is showing herself to be a total fraud as you say.

      I’ve been torn between thinking it’s all deliberate lies or that maybe they’ve been fooled in some way but I am going more and more towards deliberate fraud.

      How else can the property interests, Mirjana’s hotel posing as a “spirituality center” etc be explained?

        • Miles Immaculatae,

          I’ve read about Ivan’s mansion in the link given by Westminster Fly. I’d read about it before but it never ceases to shock me. I think all of these alleged seers have made a packet out of these “apparitions”.

  14. Josephine,

    I’m afraid I’m reluctantly coming to the same conclusion. I, too, would prefer to think of these alleged seers as being misled in some way, but the more I uncover about the whole thing, the worse it looks.

    Good news – I’ve spoken to one women who has been to Medjugorje and thought it authentic. The newsletter review changed her mind. So, Deo gratias!

    If she reads WF’s link, that will confirm her change of mind. Thank you, WF!

  15. From my youngest days I knew that these apparitions weren’t approved and therefore gave them no mind room whatsoever. I can’t be bothered going over all this all this all this old ground again. If the general public are still being taken in by this then it has to be due to:
    a) Culpable ignorance or / and
    b) Dereliction of duty on the part of their pastors.

    • Crofterlady,

      You must be a glass half full lady! We could say the same about everything in the Church right now – Communion in the hand, Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion etc. Thanks to this blog, we keep on showing up the wrong doing and publishing the truth.

      I think it’s great that one woman has changed her mind about Medjugorje after reading the review in the newsletter. That shows that we’re not wasting our time, at all. I know you didn’t say that, exactly, but I think it is implied in your comment.

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