From Trump Tower To Papal Glower…

Vatican City: Pope Francis urged US President Donald Trump to be a peacemaker and gave him a copy of his encyclical on climate change at their first meeting on Wednesday, after the two men exchanged sharp words last year.   Click here to read rest of this report

 

 

Comment:

Pity Donald Trump didn’t hand the Pope back his “climate” encyclical and tell him what, precisely, to do with it.  But not until he’d expressed a very clear view about the cold climate in the Vatican; reading that report of the visit of Donald Trump to the Vatican,  doesn’t it seem that the Pope has insulted Trump?  Grins for Obama and  glowers for Trump?  Tells its own story.  Like, says it all when a Protestant president is more pro-life and more polite than a pope.  Does it not?  Not to mention the cheek of it, to put peacemaking onto the shoulders of the new President of the USA when he, Pope Francis, holds the key to world peace if only he would obey Our Lady of Fatima and consecrate Russia to her Immaculate Heart.  Some nerve, then…

41 responses

  1. Editor,

    A few commentators today made mention of the pope’s supposed “glower”. However, I think this is selective photography. Another journalist published several photos of Pope Francis with world leaders, including Obama, in which the pope didn’t smile. Apparently he often has a glum look in these photo shoots.

    I agree with you, if he had given me the encyclical on climate change I would have put it straight in the recycling bin!

    • Petrus,

      Although I focused on that one picture for the blog introduction, I wasn’t only judging the visit by that one picture. I took account of the following, taken from the report:

      Pope Francis smiled faintly as he greeted Mr Trump outside the study and was not as outgoing as he sometimes is with visiting heads of state…

      Even when the two were sitting at the pope’s desk in the presence of photographers and reporters, the pope avoided the small talk that usually occurs before the media is ushered out… [the report went on to indicate that the meeting ended in a friendlier manner]

      A Vatican statement said the meeting was “cordial” [Donald described it as “fantastic”]

      So, seems to me that the Pope wasn’t too crazy about The Donald. Maybe, however, I’m wrong. What year is it again? I’m maybe due a misteak…

      • Editor

        I think Poap Fransis is jelos of Donald’s hare!

        You didn’t even laugh at my joke about the recycling bin!!!

        • Petrus,

          Your recycling joke didn’t register with me at first reading, but I get it now!

          Some jokes are easier to get at first reading – don’t you think? I mean, I know you DO think but do you agree?

    • However, I think this is selective photography.

      That’s a good point Petrus, but then Francis does have form on this – he is renowned for using body language / expression to communicate his feelings.

      He doesn’t seem to have the grace / common decency to be able to smile through a meeting or gesture which makes him uncomfortable.

      The one I always remember was when he was presented with a handmade pearl tiara which a group of nuns had made for him.

      We all know he would never dream of wearing it, but Instead of expressing his gratitude for the sentiment and effort behind the gift, you would have thought someone had died by the look on his face.

      if he had given me the encyclical on climate change I would have put it straight in the recycling bin

      Haha an excellent response and very apt!

      if he is so concerned about climate change, he ought to cease spewing so much hot air and reduce the amount of paper needed to print his impenetrable encyclicals!

  2. I am hugely embarrassed by this Pope, handing Donald Trump his environmental encyclical like a man who has absolutely no trust in the Creator he represents on earth. For Pope Francis the future of the world depends on man, not God. I have never seen or heard the likes of this from a Vicar of Christ, this fixation with earthly things to the detriment of the supernatural.

    Donald Trump should take that encyclical and put in a drawer somewhere to gather dust, the entire global warming thing is a tax raising ruse and it beggars belief that the Vicar of Christ on earth has become a zealous disciple of it. He is more intent on pushing the climate change doctrine than on converting souls to God and the true faith. And, as you rightly point out, editor, he puts the burden of world peace on Trump’s shoulders while ignoring the request of Our Lady of Fatima that places the world’s peace firmly and squarely on his shoulders and the shoulders of the bishops. Every tragedy occurring in the world right now is down to this papal/episcopal refusal to obey the Blessed Virgin’s request. The Pope and bishops have heaven’s key to global peace but are sadly too earthly to use it. And so the tragedies continue!

    • Athanasius,

      “He is more intent on pushing the climate change doctrine than on converting souls to God and the true faith.”

      In a nutshell. Well said. That is IT!

    • Not only was it down right cheek. If Pope Francis is so so keen on this Global Warming – aka- Climate Change. He should then know that if China doesn’t stop Burning Fossil Fuels. ASAP that his so called Paper is completely useless. Maybe if Pope Francis stopped flying round the World like Obama and they shared an Aircraft Then it would help Global Climate Change.

      • FOOF, Whilst I agree with your sentiments I think, out of respect for the Papal Office, that the Pope should be addressed correctly. He is Pope Francis, not Mr. Bergoglio.

        • Helen,

          I always make the necessary changes to FOOF’s comments and I had just made that change when your post appeared. Thank you anyway for your correction.

  3. Forgot to mention that the Pope also gave Trump the writings of Martin Luther King. I simply cannot find the words to describe this present day tragedy in the Church.

    • Athanasius,

      It was actually Trump who gave the Pope a set of the writings of Martin Luther King. Miraculously – and presumably – the Pope didn’t think of it first!

      Pity the Pope didn’t give him some writings of a previous Pope or great saint, rather than his own writings. Still, be thankful for small mercies – he just might have thought of presenting him with a photo of himself wearing a red nose or a fireman’s hat.

  4. Perhaps Pope Francis realizes, somewhere in the recesses of his diseased, secularized mind, that he and President Trump are natural enemies, simply because of the political positions they represent:

    -Trump is an eminently successful capitalist; Francis is a Marxist who denounces capitalism as evil;
    -Trump is a populist and a nationalist who was elected because he actually represented the will of millions of “deplorables” in America; Francis is a globalist and pretends to be a populist while he makes himself a mouthpiece for the satanic bureaucratic elites of the UN and the EU;
    -Trump wants to close our borders to illegal aliens, and esp. to Muslim terrorists and the unofficial Muslim invasion; Francis harangues constantly about keeping borders open as an act of “mercy”;
    -Trump recognizes the Muslim threat for what it is; Francis has hopped in bed with his mortal enemies;
    -Trump has accurately described “climate change” as a hoax; Francis has made that hoax one of the centerpieces of his regime (see: UN agenda);
    -Trump speaks his mind plainly and bluntly, without double-talk; Francis is a demagogue who twists language – a la the tried and true technique of the Modernists – to suit his nefarious purposes, using words that seem to mean one thing, but which in reality no longer have their traditional meanings.

    I don’t see anything important coming out of this meeting, which seemed like nothing more than a courtesy call. I just hope and pray that Trump doesn’t get absorbed and co-opted by “the swamp” in Washington DC and elsewhere…

    • RCA Victor,

      ” I just hope and pray that Trump doesn’t get absorbed and co-opted by “the swamp” in Washington DC and elsewhere…”

      Snap. However, Donald is his own worst enemy a lot of the time. Someone ought to remind him of Our Lord’s advice to be “wise as serpents…” He should be keeping his cards close to his chest… keeping his friends close and his enemies closer…keeping his mouth shut! These are some of the well known sayings that his advisers really ought to place on his desk with his morning coffee every day.

      I do agree that nothing important will have come out of his meeting with Papa Francis – although once he casts his eye over the writings of said Papa Francis, The Donald may well come to see that here we have before us a very worldly man. That would make the visit worthwhile. Maybe then Donald will reflect on the material he’s been sent about Fatima, and, who knows, he may try to do something about it.

      In the meantime… God help us all.

  5. I, too, wish Donald Trump would stop being so unpredictable in the way he behaves. He is a breath of fresh air in his prolife views and his willingness to call a spade a spade but he hands gifts to the media who are his enemies just about every time he opens his mouth. Saying that, his speeches in Saudi and Israel were statesmanlike and nobody cold pick holes in them, so hurrah for that.

    I feel mortified by the Pope’s behaviour towards him and it is shocking when you think how he has warmly welcomed homosexuals and their partners and probably others who are not living moral lives. I still feel shock every time I think of Pope Francis’s video address to the Protestant conference, organised by his Protestant “bishop” friend, who later was killed in an accident, after being encouraged to remain a Protestant by the Pope himself. Talk about “diabolical disorientation”.

    • WF,

      She’s married in an Episcopal church so that makes her an apostate Catholic, at best. Were she really a “practising Catholic” as the report claims, she’d have worn a white, not a black mantilla. As for that Lord’s Prayer – she included the part used by Protestants, thought to have been originally sourced in the earliest catechism, the Didache: “For yours is the power… etc” It’s not in Scripture and it’s never been part of the Our Father prayed by Catholics.

      However, as you say, none of this would be an issue for Papa Francis. On the contrary, she’d be fast-tracked to Canonisation dead or alive!

        • The Vatican protocol states “a black veil”. So why white, editor? It’s actually not easy to get a reference for appropriate dress for a papal audience.

          • Only a Catholic queen or princess can wear white mantillas when they have an audience with a pope. A Protestant queen or dignitary wears black. That’s the protocol.

  6. I found a photo of a Catholic queen (of Spain) so I copied it and I will try to paste it here, but no promises, LOL!

  7. Trump is an inspiration. He sees environmentalism for what it is. It is a perverse anti human ideology. The ultimate aim of the environmentalists is to enact a Marxist one world government which will eradicate humanity from the face of the earth They regard humanity as a curse to the earth. They will start with the Christians, because they hate us the most. Trump knows that environmentalism is the invention of China to subvert the west and he has said so. The Chinese are hell bent on destroying humanity, for example their one child policy and oppression of Catholics.

    Do not pay the environmentalist plastic bag charge. I never buy bags from the supermarket. The reason food has become so expensive in recent times is because an environmental tax is added to its value. In the future we will not even be allowed to drive cars, we will all have to use public transport like in communist countries. It is truly evil. This is designed to limit individual autonomy, and mindless submission to the Marxist state. The real reason they want to ban fizzy drinks has nothing to do with sugar content, it is because fizzy drinks contains carbon dioxide, and they claim carbon dioxide is causing the earth to heat up. It is nonsense. Absolute pseudo science. Humans have been emitting carbon dioxide for thousands of years and not once during the earths six thousand year history has this caused the earth to ‘heat up’.

  8. Watching Donald Trump being bullied is really upsetting, so I was glad to read this letter to him from Christopher Ferrara – it’s on over at the Remnant website, and I think it’s long overdue:-

    Dear President Trump:

    I have been following Presidential politics for decades, and never, not even during the height of the Watergate affair, have I seen anything like the situation in which you are now embroiled.

    In the brief time that has elapsed since your inauguration—just over four months—the media-DNC-Deep State-RINO complex has managed, by means of an entirely fictional “Russian collusion” narrative, to create or contribute to the impression that you are already on the verge of impeachment proceedings based upon absolutely nothing of legal consequence. An astounding array of investigations, most of them launched in the last days of the Obama administration, have searched for  “collusion” without even the allegation of an underlying crime. To date, the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency, the Justice Department, the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network and committees of the House and Senate have found no evidence to support the fiction.  Yet on and on the multi-pronged investigation goes.
    Just today (May 23), former CIA Director John Brennan testified before the House Intelligence Committee concerning the nonexistent “collusion with Russia.” In response to a direct question from Rep. Trey Gowdy about evidence of “collusion,” Brennan admitted that he had no knowledge of “collusion” but only “contacts” between Trump associates and “officials of the Russian government.” When pressed on whether there was any evidence of “collusion” as opposed to benign “contacts” with the Russian ambassador or other US-based Russian officials in the ordinary course of political affairs, including the Presidential transition, Brennan dodged the question by stating: “I don’t do evidence.” Rather, he testified, he had merely turned unspecified “intelligence information” about “contacts” over to the FBI.  But the FBI likewise has found no evidence of “collusion.”

    Mr. President, the “intelligence community,” rife with Obama-era holdovers, is playing a game with you. The game is to prolong a sham investigation as long as possible until the final admission that no evidence of “collusion” or any unlawful conduct ever existed.  And now, Attorney General Sessions having foolishly recused himself from the baseless “Russia probe,” Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein (the Democrat you made the mistake of installing in that position) has guaranteed an indefinite prolongation of the game by appointing a “special counsel” to conduct yet another investigation of the fictitious allegation.  Yet the law authorizing the appointment of a special counsel limits the counsel’s authority to the investigation of alleged crimes, of which none has been identified.  So what is Mueller investigating? 

    The order appointing Mueller states he is authorized to investigate “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.”  But the very subject of the investigation is by its own terms not a crime under American law and thus not within Mueller’s authority to investigate. Mere “links” between the Russian government and associates of Trump are certainly not criminal. Moreover, as both Gregg Jarrett of Fox News and Alan Dershowitz have noted, “coordination” between Russia and the Trump campaign—for which there is no evidence—would not have been a crime under federal law even if it had occurred.  And not even the looniest of the Democrat political operatives behind this circus has claimed that any Trump associate actually combined and conspired with “the Russians” to commit the crime of hacking the DNC and Podesta email accounts.

    Worse, the order appointing Mueller authorizes him to investigate “any other matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation.”  As Jarrett observes, this is “the usual all-encompassing phrase which allows a special counsel to run rampant in an almost limitless direction to dig up dirt on potential targets.” Thus, “Mueller’s probe will inevitably morph into an investigation of President Trump’s meeting with James Comey and his subsequent firing of the FBI Director.”  But Mueller and Comey are close friends who, as Jarrett notes, were “joined at the hip” when they worked together at the FBI, with Comey serving under Mueller as Director before succeeding him in that post. Thus, a key witness in this illimitable investigation will have his credibility assessed by his own friend and former close associate.

    As this bizarre process of an endless, Hydra-headed investigation in search of something to investigate drags on, the banner headlines and breathless network commentators trumpet a succession of evidential zeros in the hope that all the zeroes will somehow add up to one and that you will be toppled from office based on nothing but legally inconsequential gossip and innuendo.

    Your public relations team’s response to this farce has been weak to nonexistent. It seems that none of the people who should be defending your position has been able to make it clear that the “Russia probe” is exactly what you call it: a hoax.  I have watched, aghast, as your Press Secretary—seemingly unable to speak in complete sentences or to nail down obvious points crying out to be made—is mocked, interrupted, bullied and thrown off track during shark tank “press briefings” that serve no purpose but to fuel the media’s vaporous narratives of fake scandal, concocted to undermine your Presidency.

    In sum, Mr. President, you are allowing yourself to be railroaded.  Yet this entire debacle could be ended quickly in your favor if you will simply wield the power of your own office by taking these measures:
    First, direct the FBI, the NSA, and the CIA—whose heads all answer to you and can removed by you—to tell the public what they have been telling you, certain members of Congress and others privately: that the “Russia probe” has produced no evidence of “collusion” between you, your staff and “the Russians.”  The claim that the agency heads cannot do so because the investigation involves “classified information” is simply an excuse to continue hobbling you with a phony scandal. As Chief Executive with direct authority over the Executive branch, you can declare the entire investigation declassified so that the public can be informed that it has turned up nothing after months of fruitless inquiry. 

    It is the height of absurdity that high government officials and members of Congress are admitting privately what they are refusing to confirm publicly, so that this charade can continue. It is even more absurd that the media are now characterizing your prior requests for such public disclosure—which should you should now make a direct order to disclose—as an attempt unlawfully to induce public officials to “deny” there is evidence when in fact they admit there is no evidence. 

    Under our form of government, which thus far has largely been ignored where your Presidency is concerned, these officials all answer to the Chief Executive and serve at his pleasure.  Stop behaving as if you are subject to their authority and must submit to their endless fishing for nonexistent proof of nonexistent crimes.

    Second, direct all Administration personnel appearing before any House or Senate investigatory committee concerning the “Russia probe” to answer all questions fully and responsively without reciting the mantra that the answer involves “classified information,” as Mr. Comey did dozens of times in dodging questions that would have revealed that the FBI’s “Russia investigation” has been fruitless. As suggested above, use your Presidential power to declassify all pertinent documents, discussions and conclusions, thereby removing the dodge. This would be the most efficient way to expose the utter vacuity of the “Russia probe.”

    Third, direct the Attorney General, who answers to you and serves at your pleasure, to form a Justice Department task force, working jointly with the FBI under its new director, to investigate the numerous felonious leaks of classified information to a hostile press determined to destroy you. You are in no way bound to cede the investigation of these undeniable crimes to the discretion of “special counsel” Robert Mueller.  As Chief Executive you have every right to demand the empaneling of a grand jury and the issuance of grand jury subpoenas. 

    Subjects of the investigation who “lawyer up” and/or invoke the Fifth Amendment would be obvious targets for possible indictment for violation of the Espionage Act and other federal statutes.  The result may well be plea agreements in which one or more the leakers implicates others involved in exchange for leniency or to avoid prosecution.  The mere pendency of such an investigation would end the problem of the leaks.  I note that the Attorney General Sessions has not recused himself from any such investigation, but only from the ridiculous “Russia probe.”

    Fourth, order the administration of polygraph examinations to any and all Executive branch employees with access to the classified information that has been leaked.  Those who refuse to cooperate or fail the polygraph would also be prime targets for the AG’s task force.

    Fifth, address the nation on the “Russia collusion” mythology in a carefully written speech that exposes this circus for what it is. Show the American people that the “Russia probe” is nothing but a media-generated hoax, the longest-running fake news story in the history of the liberal media, concocted as part of the “resistance” to your administration in order to prevent you from fulfilling the campaign promises you made to the nation. 

    To those who say you are “interfering” with the “Russia probe,” your obvious reply is that you have every right to defend yourself and your administration against an endless fishing expedition driven by rank partisan politics and a hostile media. Whatever investigation Mueller may conduct does not eliminate your First Amendment right to defend yourself in the court of public opinion—the same right enjoyed by every American.

    Indeed, as Chief Executive it is within your power under the Constitution simply to order an end to all Executive branch investigations of a nonexistent conspiracy with “the Russians.”   This is discussed below.

    Sixth, address the nation on the firing of James Comey and your conversations with him concerning Michael Flynn. 

    You have nothing to fear from stating forthrightly that Comey was out of control and had to be removed. The President of the United States has no duty to cower before the head of the FBI while he searches endlessly for nonexistent “collusion with Russia.” Alan Dershowitz, no friend of yours, has candidly observed that even if Comey’s dismissal was motivated by your desire to end  the “Russia probe”—which in any event has not ended with Comey’s removal—that would simply be an exercise of your constitutional authority as Chief Executive and cannot possibly constitute a crime. 

    As for the conversation concerning Flynn, even if you had said to Comey, in effect, “I hope you go easy on Flynn and give him a break” or had said outright “I hope you drop the investigation because he has suffered enough,” the contention that the expression of such a view is “obstruction of justice” is ludicrous.  Any citizen of this country would have the right under the First Amendment to make such a petition to Comey without committing a crime. It is the sort of thing defense lawyers suggest to investigators and prosecutors every day.

    Moreover, even if Comey, the classic disgruntled ex-employee, now expediently claims you “tried to influence” him, you had the right to do so by expressing your opinion as his superior and as a citizen with First Amendment rights. You obstructed nothing, and Comey reported no obstruction, as he would have done under federal law had it occurred, failing which he himself would have committed a crime. 

    Seventh, put the brakes on the “special counsel” express train. You must, to begin with, refuse to allow the granting of any waiver of the blatant conflict of interest involved in Mueller assessing the credibility of his own friend and associate, Mr. Comey, as a key potential witness against you and your administration respecting the non-crimes Mueller should not even be allowed to investigate in the first place.  At the very least, Mueller should be disqualified as special counsel.

    You should also demand identification of the alleged crime or crimes the special counsel is to investigate.  If none can be specified—and none can be—you should direct an immediate end to the investigation on grounds of lack of jurisdiction under the special counsel law.  Obtain the appropriate legal opinion, perhaps with the assistance of Prof. Dershowitz, and address the nation accordingly. 

    There is simply no legal authority for a Justice Department special counsel to rove about in a search for vague “links to Russia” and other such legally inoperative evidence.  You have every right to quash a legally pointless fishing expedition financed by the taxpayers at the behest of your political opponents in order to drag you down.        

    Alternatively, if you decide to leave Mueller and his legally unwarranted inquest in place, do not allow yourself to lose sight of the law which makes it clear that he is not “independent” of the government, as the media have falsely implied. The Independent Counsel statute expired in 1999 after the Democrats saw that it had facilitated the impeachment of Bill Clinton resulting from the investigation by Independent Counsel Ken Starr. After the statute expired, the Office of the Independent Counsel was replaced by the “United States Department of Justice Office of Special Counsel.”  This means that Mueller is actually a Justice Department employee who answers to the Attorney General, who in turn answers to you.  You are not subject to Mueller, whose appointment cannot limit the President’s power to direct an end to a politically motivated witch hunt.  On the contrary, Mueller is subject to you.

    If you allow it to continue, Mueller’s conduct of the “Russia probe” could well degenerate, as these things do, into an exercise in justifying its own existence by finding or generating a crime where none had previously existed. This would likely involve flimsy, Martha Stewart-type indictments of people whose only offense was allegedly “misleading” Mueller or his army of investigators or allegedly “contradicting” previous statements, even though they had broken no law before Mueller’s appointment.  

    If this happens, you should (a) immediately pardon all those who might be indicted or are identified as targets for indictment solely on the basis of their alleged post-appointment behavior in response to the investigation;  (b) pardon Michael Flynn if he is charged with any alleged crime related to “failure to disclose” perfectly legal business “ties to Russia,” which amount to far less than the Clintons’ or Mr. Podesta’s undisclosed “ties to Russia”; (c) address the American people on why you issued the pardons: to end a baseless investigation in search of a crime that was paralyzing the government with a mushrooming investigatory cloud in order to nullify the results of the last Presidential election; and (d) direct the Attorney General to inform Mr. Mueller that, as all of his “targets” have been pardoned in order to bring an end to the witch hunt, his services are no longer required.

    Eighth, terminate the useless daily press briefings. Instead, provide weekly written updates and Presidential press conferences at times and places of your choosing.  Address the nation on why you ended the briefings in a speech documenting the degeneration of the “mainstream media” into the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party. Cite the Harvard study that an unheard-of 98% of media coverage of your Presidency is negative.  

    Make the point that the media’s First Amendment freedom does not require you to assist their orchestrated effort to undo the last election and the draining of “the swamp” with nonstop biased reporting, false allegations, leaks by anonymous sources, and a parade of pseudo-scandals that amount to nothing. Remind the people that the political establishment you defeated fair and square is fighting the radical change they voted for. Tell them that you are tired of providing that same establishment with White House press facilities to conduct a propaganda war under your nose.

    Lastly, bring an end to the empty threats of “impeachment” by challenging the Democrats to present their articles of impeachment, which would not be based on anything constituting an impeachable offense and would never be voted out of the House for presentation to the Senate.  Your challenge will go unanswered, and, having called their bluff, you will have gained a major tactical advantage in the war being waged against you.
    And a war it is.  It is time that you used the full power of the Presidency to win that war instead of attempting to placate the enemy forces that surround you.  In short, Mr. President, do something to defend your Presidency by using Presidential powers to dispel the media-generated cloud of legal nothingness that hangs over you, before it chokes the life out of your administration and renders your election vain, just as your enemies have planned from the moment you won the Republican nomination.

    Respectfully yours,

    Christopher A. Ferrara, Esq.

    • Lily, I pray that Mr. Trump reads this letter and acts on it. I think he is a breath of fresh air and I hope he doesn’t get dragged into “the swamp”. May God bless him.

    • Lily,

      That’s a superb letter. I hope it reaches Donald Trump himself. It is pathetic to watch the media making a meal out of the Russian contacts, as if it’s a crime to speak to a Russian, LOL!

    • Deo Gracias for Christopher Ferrara, and thank you for posting that, Lily. Unless I missed it, Mr. Ferrara omitted something from his letter that is rather important, something which will bring down this whole “Russian collusion” nonsense like a house of cards: that is, this endless orchestrated fairy-tale also happens to be a cover-up for the murder of Seth Rich, the DNC operative who clearly leaked DNC emails to Julian Assange and exposed the utter corruption of the Clinton campaign. The panicked efforts to cover up this murder are rapidly becoming the equal of the cover-ups of the JFK, RFK, MLK Jr., and JFK Jr. assassinations. In fact, I daresay a thorough and open investigation of that murder would reach all the way to Obama, who is just as corrupt and evil as Clinton.

    • RCA Victor,

      This is all news to me and some news! It’s just beyond belief that none of this has come out on our news here in the UK. What is going on?

      I knew the Clintons were bad, but this is incredible. I’m going to read that Diana West article again. It needs some digesting!

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