Catholic Truth Conference Huge Success!

Our Conference, held to mark the 100th anniversary of the Fatima Apparitions, and to note, too, the 100th edition of the Catholic Truth Newsletter, was, by any standards, hugely successful. 

The event began with the Glorious Mysteries of the Rosary, Hymn Bring Flowers of the rarest and crowning of Our Lady’s beautiful statue – that privilege was given to the little 4 year old daughter of one of our readers, who was thrilled at having been chosen to do this. We had other young people helping out at the various stalls and being general dogsbodies. To each of them our heartfelt gratitude. Our thanks, too, to Chairman Paul who took us through the day calmly and efficiently.

The four speakers were all well received and feedback has been largely positive. Here’s a sample:

Very good speakers. I really enjoyed it. Look forward to another. Motherwell Diocese.
(Ed: there isn’t going to be another – that was our Grand Finale, but it’s great that it has been such a success, and we leave the world of conferences on a high!)

Fr Nicholas Mary – most interesting talk. Learned so much! Ellen Ward – very strong speaker. Loved her account of Legion work and the priority of saving souls.  Fr Mann, very informative and thought-provoking…  Northampton Diocese (England)

The day was very interesting and learned a lot. I felt there was a strong message to take away with us and share with others; my only negative would be a lot of the talk would have been so off putting for people searching for Jesus (my own family being first). Surely God is love and wold bring people to his love and then they would learn the truth and turn away from sin. Ended up being very disturbed.  Galloway Diocese

All in all, however, the day was a great success, with the Fatima and piety stalls doing great “business” and the new initiative, Crusaders of Mary, drawing much interest.  Thanks to Joe and John who brought the Fatima Statue and beautiful banners over from County Cork for our use and for helping to make our Conference such a success.  Thanks, too, to John Blyth from Edinburgh, whose piety stall was very busy – as is usual at our Conferences.

Our American blogger, Wurdesmythe, has given the thumbs up to the Conference, and is set to enjoy the rest of his stay with us, before returning home on Thursday.  Chairman, Paul, called him up to the front of the hall at the start of the day to return his cheque/check in payment of his ticket, because, he said, we wanted to put to rest, once and for all,  the myth of the “mean Scot” !

One last word…

Note: one of a group of women from the Diocese of Galloway, expressed concern in the Q & A sessions, because she (and I believe others in her group) act as Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion (EMHC) and she had been offended at remarks made by me about the “poisonous” effect of the novus ordo Mass and the diminution of belief in the Real Presence (or words to that effect).  She said they had to act as EMHC because they had no priests. For your information and interest, visit the  website of the Diocese of Galloway.

Perhaps we could use this thread to offer comments to help the Galloway group of EMHCs to come to a deeper realisation of how seriously wrong it is for lay people to handle the Blessed Sacrament: key question: is a shortage of priests really a good enough reason to allow this practice? And, perhaps  some of those who attended might respond to the lady from Galloway who remarked that the “a lot of the talk would have been so off putting for people searching for Jesus…[because] God is love…”

Comments invited…

51 responses

  1. Many congratulations on the success of the Conference. I was sorry not to be there especially as it was the last one. So glad I went last year and got to meet at least a few of the bloggers, and of course yourself.

    I did not quite understand what the difficulty was with the lady from Galloway and the searching for Jesus….

    Regarding the problem with EMHC , well I have some sympathy there because I think people simply do not understand the word ‘extraordinary’. It has become such the norm in parishes everywhere now that it is a case that familiarity breeds contempt. I had a go at our curate recently when he used a lay person when there were no more than 50 in the congregation. He made it clear that he agreed with me but his hands were tied by a parish priest who does not wish to upset the ‘ministers’. Spineless was the word that came to mind….

    At the NO Mass we attended on Sunday the Minister of the Precious Blood was a young female altar server….!!

    In the situation where there are no priests so I suppose they have so called lay led Eucharistic Services, perhaps that would count as an extraordinary situation but it still feels very wrong to me to see lay people handling the Blessed Sacrament. In Africa people walk many miles to attend Mass or have Mass only occasionally, or do they now also have EHMCs?

    • First time posting here. I apologize for posting in the wrong thread, mea culpa. I was doing a search and came across Consecration of Russia: God Got It Wrong! – World Apostolate of Fatima. I was unable to post a reply as I would have to totally agree with the post. Pax et bonum.

  2. I should add to the above report on the Conference, that the Sunday social for visitors was also a huge success. The venue was the home of one of our readers, and we had become apprehensive because of the “rainy” weather forecasts, because we’d hoped to spill some of the large number of guests into the garden. In the event, the afternoon was beautiful, sunny and warm, so we got out into the garden after all, plus plenty huddled in the living room telling stories and jokes. Guests came and went, throughout the afternoon/evening, but all agreed that it had been a lovely end to the Conference weekend, so sincere gratitude to our hostess with the most-ess – another Patricia – who provided a wonderful buffet, including her famous, very mild homemade curry, which is delicious – I’m not a fan of curry, but hers is so creamy and mild. What’s not to like? I had two helpings, but I will deny it if anyone betrays this confidence 😀

    This is for RCA Victor…

    I reminded all and sundry about YOUR first question on arriving on the M8 motorway: “What is the population of Glasgow?” which, at the time, threw me for six. Soon, the young ones were checking the internet and came up with the answer, telling me to round it up to 600,000. So, RCA Victor, you now have the up to date figure for the population of Glasgow. Hope you are impressed!

    Reflect on this; the question which YOU would have been asked by those young people, and which brought a roar of laughter from Wurdesmythe was, as follows: do you have a gun?
    You have to laugh!

    • Editor,

      If you had mentioned curry was being served, I might have come after all! 🙂

      Besides noting that it only took you 9 years to discover the population of Glasgow, I would like to point out to your youngsters that, while I do not own a gun, I do own a traditional Missal and a bottle of Holy Water….

      I am sorry to note that this was your last Conference, but now I suppose that you’ll all have to come to America for the next one! But tell me which city in advance, so I can look up the population…

    • I laughed even more when one of the youngsters said to me, “I love your American accent – say ‘Donald Trump’ again.”

  3. It certainly was a huge success. I thoroughly enjoyed it and was challenged by each and every talk. Ellen Ward’s talk was excellent and really helped to clarify what the lay apostolate is and how we can exercise it. Fr Mann’s talk on Fatima and the crisis was excellent and he made some very good points. Next up was Father Nicholas Mary and as I said to someone yesterday, other than Fr Gruner RIP, I have never heard a priest speak with such clarity on Fatima. As if it couldn’t get any better, the last talk was from Patricia McKeever who, with great passion, clarity and humour reminded us of our Confirmation duty. I have to say that I left the Conference with a renewed spirit and determination to be more apostolic in defending and spreading the Faith.

    • Petrus,

      Thank you for those kind words, and I am delighted that you left the Conference “with a renewed spirit and determination to be more apostolic in defending the spreading the Faith” … er…again…! 😀

      I really am a very bad girl. Not least for forgetting to have you publicly rebuked thanked for your excellent management of the Q & A sessions. Thank you for that!

      • Editor,

        You naughty girl!

        Ps. I’m just sad I missed the social! Didn’t realise there was one this year. Then again, I am quite “anti-social”.

        • Petrus,

          Sorry about the oversight – you would have been welcome to join us at the Social on Sunday – I know, though, how difficult it is for you to get transport on Sundays from the back of beyond where you live, and move, and pray your rosary. . Still, to keep on the right side of the Equality & Diversity Laws, I’d have made sure you received an invite. Grovelling in repentance.

          And just to rub it in… you really did miss a lot of fun!

  4. I have been alerted to the fact that our conference features in the Fatima Center video below, towards the end. Thank you Joanna Swords!

    For the record, though, although I’d been keen for Joe from Ireland (Fatima Center representative) to participate in the Q & A panel, he was more concerned with explaining the new Crusaders for Mary (CFM) initiative to individuals at the CFM stall, so, in the end, he didn’t take part in the Q & A sessions.

    To see the rest of the videos click here

      • Wurdesmythe,

        I presume this is your YOUnique way of telling us that you have arrived back home in the USA?! :

        Thank you, again, for making the trip – we enjoyed your company.

        • I meant the Catholic Truth conference was referenced in the Fatima Center video at the 3 minute 50 second mark.

          I am indeed back home, safe and sound, full of delightful stories of Scotland and its people and my Catholic friends there. Many thanks to you for being a thoughtful and attentive host. Should you or yours make it to this side of the Atlantic, kindly let me know and I will happily return the favor.

          • Wurdesmythe,

            Trust me to get the time stamp wrong. What am I LIKE? (A strictly rhetorical question…)

            “Kindly let you know…?” O well, you did offer… If you insist…

            I’ll email my arrival time shortly… 😀

  5. Below is the text of the Open Letter which has been signed by those attending the Conference, and which will be posted to the Vatican during this week.

    An Open Letter To His Holiness Pope Francis 1

    From attendees at the Catholic Truth Conference From Diabolical Disorientation To Brand New Religion in Glasgow, Scotland
    13 May, 2017 – Feast of Our Lady of Fatima

    Your Holiness,

    In a spirit of great love for the Church, and with respect for your sacred office as Supreme Pontiff, we write to ask you to make two important commitments, as a matter of urgency, in order to end the current crisis within the Church.

    We ask firstly that you reveal the full text of the third part of the Message of Fatima, popularly known as “the Third Secret”. Only when the root cause of the crisis in the Church is known, will it be possible for the faithful to properly assess the impact of the Second Vatican Council, and the various changes in the Church which have taken place over the past fifty years.

    Secondly, we ask that you arrange for the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary – naming Russia as the object of the Consecration – and that this Consecration be conducted in union with all the bishops of the world, as Our Lady requested during the Fatima apparitions which began 100 years ago today, on 13th May, 1917.

    The situation in both the world and the Church has never been more grave and yet the solution is very simple. We have Our Lady’s promise that once this Consecration has been effected God will grant us a period of world peace, and this will undoubtedly include the return of good order within the Church.

    We ask you, therefore, to gather the bishops together – if possible on 13th October, anniversary of the miracle of the sun – in order to obey God’s will in this matter.
    Please, Holy Father, consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, together with all the bishops of the world, as a matter of the utmost urgency.

    Yours faithfully,

    [pages of signatures attached].

    Update: the letter was posted on 17th May.

  6. I really can’t understand why some people would find “a lot of the talk….off-putting…” I was also astonished at the comment by some EMHC that their feelings were hurt. The question should be, what about Our Blessed Lord’s feelings? Did He not suffer enough contempt during His Passion? There can be no doubt that the introduction of Communion in the Hand, and EMHCs, has largely contributed to the lack of reverence – indeed belief in – the Real Presence. I should have thought that the numerous examples we have had, over decades, of the blasphemies that have occurred – and are still occurring – against the most Sacred Body and Blood of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, and which are DIRECTLY a result of Communion in the Hand, would be enough for any Catholic to abhor the practice and demand its cessation.

    It is incredibly sad that some people are “put off” by the Truth, but so they were in Christ’s time. He didn’t change His message because it was hard to hear, and all of the speakers at the conference have my thanks and admiration; thank God and His Blessed Mother that there are still faithful clergy and lay Catholics who are not afraid to speak the truth, no matter how “off-putting”. Patricia McKeever’s speech brought tears to my eyes, and I felt privileged to be among so many well informed and zealous Catholics. She put the iron back in my soul.

    Special thanks to Wurdesmythe for navigating me down the hotel steps – I foolishly left my climbing rope behind!

    • Very well said, Therese. That off-putting attitude is one of the most bitter fruits of Vatican II: it’s all about ME, MY active participation in the Mass, and how important I am in the church! Narcissism goes well with democracy.

  7. Very pleased to hear that the Conference was a huge success, I’m sure all the speakers and organisers will receive many blessings from God for their efforts on His behalf (what editor rightly calls be faithful to one’s Confirmation duty).

    Sadly, I couldn’t make the Conference. I’m looking after the old Lab Retreiver this week while my sister is on holiday. She’s an old dog now (not my sister!) requiring palliative care, but enough said on that front or editor will become apoplectic. A man and his dog have a certain bond that many women don’t understand. We both eat from the same bowl for a start!

    Anyway, I was delighted to attend the buffet on Sunday at the other Patricia’s house and I want to thank her and her lovely family for a great day. I got to meet some great people and exchange some good conversation and brilliant jokes, especially with our Irish friends. Unfortunately I had to give that lovely curry a miss on long standing doctor’s orders, but I did well with drinks and chicken.

    Got to meet an old phone friend from the States (Wurdesmythe). We have communicated electronically over the years so it was great to meet him in the flesh. He’s a great guy and a credit to the American people, even if he did refuse to say Donald Trump for me!! If he reads this, I wish him a great stay in our country and a safe journey home on Thursday.

    Like many here, I cannot understand this person from Galloway who spoke of being disturbed by the Conference talks and how they might affect people searching for Jesus. What’s that supposed to mean? The whole point of the Conference talks was to help Catholics to discover the riches of the Traditional Catholic Faith and devotion to Our Lady. Some people just leave me speechless with this kind of inane drivel. Sorry for putting it so bluntly but I get really annoyed with these daft people and their daft objections.

    As for the EMHC, I’m very glad they were offended. I’m offended when they handle Our Lord’s precious body and blood with all kinds of specious excuses. Truth is these people like to feel important and acting like priests and priestesses in the parish gives them a great feeling of superiority, despite their protestations to the contrary.

    But never mind us being offended, how offended is Our Lord by this disgraceful business of secular hands handling the most sacred of things, His precious Body and Blood no less? As I pointed out again yesterday, and this kills all their false arguments, the Gospels show us that the only people who laid hands on Him were those who mocked, scourged and crucified Him. Contrarily, those who went in petition to Our Saviour are recorded to have gone on their knees in great humility. It’s high time the hierarchy of the Church put a stop to this monstrous abuse of lay handling of the Blessed Sacrament, which I state again was illicitly introduced into the Church after Vatican II by a few rogue bishops and was spread around very quickly before the faithful knew what was happening to them.

    The liberals always speak of obedience to the Pope and yet they continue to disobey both Paul VI and John Paul II by handling the Blessed Sacrament against their expressed wishes and cautions. That’s the hypocrisy of the liberal Catholic.

    • > even if he did refuse to say Donald Trump for me!!

      Many thanks for serving as my Scottish speaking coach; I’ve had the opportunity since returning home of schooling two priests and several of my friends in the proper way to pronounce “Loch.”

      • Wurdesmythe

        Good man. Now get them to stop saying yes and start saying aye. You’ll have them word perfect in no time at all.

  8. Athanasius,

    Thank you for all that… Your excuse/reason for not attending the conference gives a whole new meaning to the term “dogsbody” 😀

    Here’s the Bishop Schneider video interview on Communion in the hand again – if our Galloway friends are reading this, I’d urge them to watch and listen closely. If they still see nothing wrong with EMHC and laity generally handling the Blessed Sacrament, God help them at their judgment…Not to mention the clergy who are misleading them

    • I can only echo Petrus on the success of the Conference, and, the excellence and clarity of each by the four Speakers. A timely reminder of our Confirmation duty as soldiers of Christ.

      I hope that our friends from Galloway might read this too. It is what happened when a Consecrated Host accidently fell upon the floor of the Sanctuary during Mass. It shows the reverence of the priest and altar servers towards the Blessed Sacrament.

      http://www.cfnews.org/page10/page79/day_the_host_dropped.html

      It was a pleasure meeting Wurdesmythe, on Saturday and at the Social event the following day. Great to be able to put a face to the name.

      • > It was a pleasure meeting Wurdesmythe, on Saturday and at the Social event the following day. Great to be able to put a face to the name.

        The pleasure was all mine – a delightful weekend, spent in the company of sincere and faithful Catholics. Many thanks for receiving me so courteously!

    • Editor,

      I’d be much more inclined to blame the clergy for this sacrilege than the laity – who, after all, were apparently inculcated with the “pray, pay and obey” mentality. That is, they think they are just being “obedient.”

      My old fall-back question for people (such as, apparently this gaggle of Galloway geese) who defend the Novus Ordo to the last man is this: please explain to me how a liturgy specifically designed to avoid offending heretics could possibly be pleasing to Our Lord.

  9. I would also urge them to watch the following video, paying particular attention to reason No 5.

  10. I agree the conference was a good success and in a great venue.

    All the speakers were very stimulating and thought provoking. The other contributors – such as chairman and Q&A manager – were very efficient in running things. And the stalls etc were well judged and complimented the talks perfectly, during breaks. A lot of hard work had obviously gone into making preparations for the day and this paid dividends.

    I left slightly early in order to be home for my infant daughter’s bath time, and so I missed the EMHC stating she was offended by some of the content. Hopefully she will come to realise that causing her offence was not the aim of the speaker(s) but rather their aim was to wake people up as to the malign effects of communion-in-the-hand (and other evils).

    It is symptomatic of the modern Church that it trains people to believe the mass is all about them personally (or at best, about the congregation in general), and not about perpetuating the Sacrifice of Calvary.

    If one has a proper appreciation of what the mass is and why lay people should not be handling the Blessed Sacrament, then one would never dream of putting personal feelings before other concerns, such as ensuring a proper respect for the Blessed Sacrament is observed.

    I would also like to say thank you for the hospitality on the Sunday afternoon. It was very kind and a real pleasure to meet such an international group of committed Catholics. Unfortunately we could only stay a short while, due to the limited stamina of a 1 year old daughter and a 3-months pregnant wife!

    However I enjoyed meeting people for that couple of hours, in particular Wurdsmythe, the Irish Gentlemen who ran the Fatima stall and the English couple from (I think) Darlington. And of course the Orcadians! Apologies to anyone whom we may have missed or only seen briefly.

    I understand why people would be saying that was the final conference, given the effort and time demands of arranging such events. However – never say never, as I would bet that as more people begin to question things, (especially during the current Papacy), then demand for such events will grow in the coming years.

    • Gabriel Syme,

      Be assured, we’ll attend any conferences which are organised by truly informed Catholics – not the sort of events organised by the half-baked, foot in both camps brigade – so we can still do our bit for the “enlightenment” but we are done with organising conferences. So, sorry to disappoint, but in this case, “never” really does mean “never”…

  11. I really enjoyed the conference and thought it was probably the best I had attended. The speakers were all good and interesting to listen to, even the woman at the end whose name escapes me.
    Sadly, I wasn’t able to attend the gathering on Sunday as our Mass is at 1p.m and I didn’t get away from the chapel until 3.45p.m. but I very much appreciate the invite.

    I agree with the Editor about the drip, drip, drip effect that dilutes the Faith. Just a couple of weeks ago I heard a lady on the bus talk about “the bread and wine” instead of the Body and Precious Blood. A friend told me that at her parish one of the Eucharistic Ministers said that she would be “giving out the wine today.” My friend said “don’t you mean the Precious Blood?” to which she got the reply “well if you want to be technical about it.” I recently watched a Mass from a Servite priory in Northern Ireland. Hardly anyone genuflected when entering or leaving the chapel and one woman who did genuflect did so to the altar after having walked past the tabernacle. Nobody knelt at the consecration. At the offertory the priest was so busy singing a hymn that he didn’t say the offertory prayers and at the consecration he lifted both the Host and the Chalice with one hand. There is certainly no belief in the Real Presence there. A few more drip, drip, drip and they will be Protestants.

    I hope the Galloway ladies realise that they shouldn’t be doing a priest’s duties. His hands have been consecrated, their’s have not. They say that they have to do it because there are no priests but, as far as I can see, every parish in that diocese has a Sunday Mass so I presume they are talking about weekday Eucharistic Services which are not necessary. Many country congregations have, for decades, managed perfectly well without weekday services.

    • Vianney,

      Glad you enjoyed the day – you are not the first to say that this Conference was the best ever.

      However, I want my money back for the mantilla I bought – it doesn’t make me look any more glamorous that I already looked; I heard that! 😀

        • Theresa Rose,

          That is a wonderful article – thank you SO much for posting it and I urge everyone to read it from beginning to end. Seeing the photo of that particle on the paten just makes it totally inexcusable for anyone now, henceforth, to receive Communion in the hand. Here’s the conclusion of that terrific article:

          “Again, permission to receive Holy Communion in the hand is an Indult (out of the ordinary permission to do and can be revoked at any time). It was given to some countries where, in disobedience, some priest began copying protestants.  The protestants purposely  receive the bread in the hand to show that it is not God/Jesus in the bread they eat at their  services. [Ed: the fact that the “permission” was given to cover up the disobedience, demonstrates that this new practice in the Church is rooted in diabolic sources, not the grace of God.]

          Let us all pray for an end of the walking of God on the floor of Catholic Churches. And we can start by receiving Jesus humbly on the tongue kneeling down.  Copy this picture and give it to your parish priest.  Ask him if he has seen large particles fall too.

          Forgive us Jesus for not loving you and protecting you from sacrilegious tramplings underfoot. END OF EXTRACT

          Thank you, again, Theresa Rose, for posting the link to that marvellous article.

  12. “My only negative would be a lot of the talk would have been so off putting for people searching for Jesus (my own family being first). Surely God is love and would bring people to his love and then they would learn the truth and turn away from sin. Ended up being very disturbed.

    I was hoping that someone else would answer the above criticism from one of the Galloway group, but here goes…

    It is precisely BECAUSE “God is love” that He sent His mother to Fatima to warn us of the crisis in the Church to come. He wanted us to be alert to the protestantising effects of the changes to come – which have now damaged the Faith of millions of Catholics like the ladies from Galloway who apparently think nothing of handling the Blessed Sacrament. As others have pointed out, the claim that they do this due to the shortage of priests is unconvincing. They still have Sunday Masses in Galloway, so these Eucharistic services held on weekdays are entirely unnecessary, and if held on Sundays, they are not, and cannot be obligatory. We are obliged to attend Mass on Sundays and Holydays – we are not obliged to attend any other “service”.

    As for “a lot of the talk being off-putting for people searching for Jesus” – well, that is tantamount to saying that the TRUTH is off-putting. That does sometimes happen, but we can’t change the truth and the idea that we can make it more palatable to those who are “searching” doesn’t wash. When some of His disciples found the teaching on the Eucharist off-putting and said they would walk with Him no more, Jesus didn’t retract His words; He let them go. Sincere searchers after the truth are not put off by the truth. As St Irenaeus (2nd century Bishop) once said: “Truth is simple, it is error that is immense”. I would love someone to explain to me how it is possible to prove that God is love without, at the same time, explaining that He gave us the Commandments and authoritative moral teaching – which demonstrate His love. It is because God loves us that He gives us “rules” to keep us healthy in mind, body and spirit.

    As for being “disturbed” – that’s good. If our Conference left anyone “disturbed” that is an indication that they were previously on the wrong path. Nothing was said at our Conference that was not in conformity with Catholic teaching. What is truly disturbing is that so many Catholics – including priests – don’t know it, and in some cases, were hearing it for the first time on Saturday, 13th May in the Eagle Lodge, Bishopbriggs. That really IS disturbing.

    • “As for being “disturbed” – that’s good.

      If it was disturbing to them to hear that handling the Blessed Sacrament is wrong, then they really do need to think carefully about why they are Catholics. Galloway Diocese has been in poor shape for ages though, so it’s not surprising that there are people who are disturbed when they come across the undiluted truths of the faith.

    • Editor,

      Well said. Speaking of the truth being off-putting (up with which I will not put), it seems to me that the entire conciliar revolution has been an exercise in not only obscuring the truth, but also in making it seem undesirable, threatening, insulting, offensive, divisive, backward and embarrassing. This latter barrage of pejoratives being especially the work of the current Pontificate, with his demagogic “Little Book of Insults” and his constant scolding about “rigidity.”

      As Rabbi Schiller pointed out, truth is not only a stranger in the modern Church, it is greatly to be feared.

  13. I would like to have come to this conference. I have never been to Scotland but I very much admire the Scottish people. Will there be another conference?

    • No. That was our final Conference. But come for Haggis and Neeps anyway! Where do YOU live, if you don’t mind me asking – if you do mind, just ignore the question.

  14. Our family thoroughly enjoyed the Conference. One of our children said she had learned hitherto unknown details about Fatima.

    I enjoyed all the speakers but was particularly impressed by Ellen Ward’s talk. She informed us of the way lay people should be involved in the Church rather than muscling in on the priest’s role!

    • Olaf,

      You are not alone in finding Ellen’s talk “particularly impressive”. Others have said the same thing. Her background as a member of the Legion of Mary and, until very recently, President of the Senatus of Scotland, makes her eminently suitable for reminding us all of the proper role of the laity – which is NOT in the sanctuary, as she so clearly pointed out. And she delivered said reminder with calm and grace.

      I’ve already passed on similar praise to her by email, but she reads the blog regularly, so she will see this comment from you first hand, for herself.

      Thank you for it – very well said.

      • Editor

        I agree. Ellen’s talk was excellent. What really struck me was that the lay apostolate, as Ellen described it, is selfless. The apostle works tirelessly for Christ and the good of souls. However, the new “lay ministries” are inherently selfish. It’s all about how the individual can get involved. The lay apostolate has forgotten humility and embraced pride.

        • Petrus,

          Well said. That is a very good summary of the difference between the lay apostolate and these infernal lay “ministries”. Ellen certainly did hit a good few nails on heads in her talk. First time I heard it, I described it as “gripping” – it was “gripping with bells on” by the time she had finished and refined it.

  15. I also enjoyed the Conference, the speakers and the general ambiance. I found Fr. Mann’s contribution particularly helpful after he got over apologising for his ignorance of the subject!

    I felt sorry for the 3 ladies from Galloway who were clearly distressed at hearing that the Novus Ordo is inherently “poisonous”. I wanted to tell them that it is like the “frog in the water”, i.e. when the frog is put into the water, he is happy enough, and when the water is gently heated up, he doesn’t noticed. So eventually he gets boiled i.e. DEAD WITHOUT NOTICING IT. And that my dear ladies is what happens when one continues to attend the Novus ordo Missae.

    May God bless you and may your Angel Guardians guide you.

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