Are Scottish Catholic Schools Grooming Children For Sexual Deviance?

Catholic Truth blogger, Summa, from Australia writes: 

You must fight this. This plague is already in Australia.It is akin to grooming youth for sexual deviance:

A spokeswoman for the Catholic Church in Scotland said: “The Church is working with the Catholic Head Teacher associations to ensure that all teachers have adequate knowledge, understanding and training and feel confident in addressing all aspects of relationships education, including LGBTI+ matters, in an appropriate and sensitive way.”  Read entire report here at Herald Scotland 

 

Archbishop Tartaglia President, Scottish Catholic Education Service - the buck stops here...

Archbishop Tartaglia
President, Scottish Catholic Education Service –  the buck stops here…

Comment: 

The Scottish Hierarchy continues to keep a disgraceful silence on the undermining-through-to-destruction of traditional marriage and sexual morality  – always taking their lead from the enemy; secular society and, specifically, the homosexual lobby, whose list of deviant behaviour is ever growing.  There’s a push now for the normalisation of “transgenderism” and goodness knows what else will be added to the list once that’s firmly in place (and they’re almost there, with few questioning the idea that a man may become a woman and vice versa)  – bestiality? Why not? 

Children and young people are, therefore, as Summa says, effectively being groomed for sexual deviance, with the full and knowing complicity of the useful idiots currently running the Education Service of the Catholic Church in Scotland – and their episcopal bosses. Click here to see who’s who….

Nobody but nobody will convince me that these self-styled education “experts” and the Bishops do not know perfectly well that “addressing LGBTI+ matters in an appropriate and sensitive way” means condoning sexually deviant behaviour and accepting its normalisation – and imposition – by those guilty of this grave sin, which Christians have always believed, is a sin “crying to Heaven for vengeance.”  Or perhaps you disagree? Let’s hear it…  

115 responses

  1. “A Christianity which keeps a grip on itself, refuses every compromise with the world, takes the commands of God and the Church seriously, preserves its love of God and of men in all its freshness, such a Christianity can be, and will be, a model and a guide to a world which is sick to death and clamors for directions, unless it be condemned to a catastrophe that would baffle the imagination.”

    -Pius XI, Mit Brennender Sorge

    On the other hand, we have the Scottish hierarchy, at the forefront of the White Flag Brigade, surrendering the Church to that very same, very sick world – in order to possess the nothingness of human respect. Thereby, they have become a laughingstock among those to whom they have surrendered.

    • RCA Victor,

      What a perfect response to this awful scandal.

      Our Scots bishops are really weaklings. They will go along with the prevailing winds and not lift a finger to defend the Catholic faith and fight the homosexuality being forced on children, even in Catholic schools.

      I wonder what Cardinal Winning would say now, since he described sex-education as “institutionalised sex abuse” of children. It was either him or + Conti, I am not sure, but now we have the bishops of Scotland actually taking part in this institutionalised child abuse! It’s shocked me to the core, I can tell you.

      That’s a great quote from Pope Pius XI. I wonder if we will ever see a pope like him again. The future doesn’t look good right now.

      • Josephine,

        I think it would have been Archbishop/Cardinal Winning who spoke of sex education as state sanctioned, or institutionalised, child abuse, although on a quick Google just now I couldn’t find any reports. I’m sure you are right, however – it rings a bell. And I must say, I hope he did say it because it would be one of the few things he said that was spot on and with which we can all agree!

    • RCA Victor

      “we have the Scottish hierarchy, at the forefront of the White Flag Brigade, ”

      LOL! So true!

    • RCA Victor,

      Well said – every word. And the “nothingness of human respect” sums up the weakness of the Scottish bishops in a nutshell.

    • Lionel,

      Josephine was saying that RCA Victor’s response was perfect, not my comment in the blog introduction. She’s a traitor to the sisterhood. I won’t forget that easily.

      You, on the other hand, can look forward to a fat cheque 000,000 euros in total, for your fidelity to the Cause!

  2. RCA Victor,

    Yours was indeed a perfect response, and Editors introduction was elegant! A wee plug for Editor there!

    Is this tragedy not exactly what Our Lady predicted at Quito for our time when she spoke of the Masonic assault on the family and those who should speak out remaining silent? The Bishops of the Church in this country are a great scandal by their clamouring for the friendship of a world in rebellion against its Creator. It is the duty of Bishops to sanctify souls, especially the young, not help pollute them by allowing teaching on sins that the saints say should not so much as be mentioned among us.

    • Athanasius,

      Thank you for that high praise! I actually happened to be reading Mit Brennender Sorge for something else, but that passage jumped out at me – and that, combined with the feeling that Editor was breathing down my neck for a comment, sent me rushing to the keyboard….

      I have to wonder whether these bishops (and higher up the ladder) have a clue as to what the teachings are of the religion they claim (falsely) to be representing. Not only that, I wonder if any of them realize that they are actually representing a completely different religion – one that seems to change by the week! Does this new religion have any doctrines? Dogmas? Principles, even? Or is it just “whatever the world wants, we want that too”? Go with the flow! I’m OK, you’re OK! Power to the People! Oh, and “Sorry that we offended you in the past!”

      What a craven lot! (Or, to use a word you used on another thread, pusillanimous!) And to think that this cowardice tries to pass itself off and some sort of elite….

      • RCA Victor,

        I am coming more and more to the view that we are, indeed, as Archbishop Lefebvre said all those years ago in his Open Letter to Confused Catholics, confronted by two religions. The Catholic religion as it was handed down to us from the Apostles, and the one created in 1962.

        • Editor

          It seems Pius XII’s terrible prophetic fear is coming true before our very eyes and Archbishop Lefebvre saw it.

          “I am worried by the Blessed Virgin’s messages to Lucy of Fatima. This persistence of Mary about the dangers which menace the Church is a divine warning against the suicide of altering the Faith in her liturgy, her theology and her soul…I hear all around me innovators who wish to dismantle the Sacred Chapel, destroy the universal flame of the Church, reject her ornaments and make her feel remorse for her historical past. A day will come when the civilised world will deny its God, when the Church will doubt as Peter doubted. She will be tempted to believe that man has become God.”

    • Athanasius,

      “Elegant” – me? Moi? WOW!

      Reminds me of the following story…

      The headwaiter of an elegant restaurant recoiled in disgust as a dishevelled woman wearing torn jeans and a leather jacket approached him. “Hey,you,” she said, “where’s the loo?” “Go down the hall and turn left, “replied the headwaiter, somewhat haughtily: “When you see the sign marked “Ladies” pay no attention to it and go right on in.” 😀

  3. What I would like to know is why are the parents not up in arms about this? The Herald is one of the most read papers in Scotland, so they must know about it. Presumably, they don’t care and may even think it’s a good thing, since the real agenda is covered up by pretending it’s about stopping bullying. Other kids get bullied – what about them?

    • I actually think most parents will think it is a good thing, stopping bullying and discrimination. They’re just ignorant and don’t think like Catholics any more. What can you expect when the bishops don’t think like Catholics, LOL!

    • Josephine,

      I daresay one of the reasons parents are not up in arms is the homo-fascists’ careful choice of the word “bullying.’ Why, of course, everyone wants to be against bullying! Well, parents will find out when it’s too late that, to the homo-fascist crowd, “bullying” means any disagreement with their sick, pornography-infested lifestyle, any affirmation of Christian morality, in fact, any hint of any sort of disapproval! It’s the same with “gay” “marriage” – if you’re a public figure and you express yourself publicly in support of real, traditional marriage, the orchestrated outcries from well-funded special interest groups descend on you, along with powerful economic sanctions (because the NWO is behind this agenda, as a tool for the destruction of Christianity).

      These people choose their terms very carefully – for example, “tolerance” and “inclusion.” Don’t they sound compassionate and enlightened? Think again. It means surrendering your Christian beliefs to those who willfully refuse to live by them, and those are the same people who have successfully recruited the fist of the government to enforce their refusal.

      It seems that the final NWO strategy to wipe Christianity from the face of the earth has two major prongs: one, homo-fascism, and two, the engineered Muslim invasion of the West. And guess who’s in bed, frequently literally, with the people who have devised this satanic strategy?

      Our hierarchy, starting at the top.

      • RCA Victor,

        You are right (had to happen one day!)

        Using the language of the enemy is always a mistake – to talk about “gay bashing” and to use the terminology of the victim brigade, is a huge mistake.

        Parents and teachers should be alert to that by now, however. There’s really no excuse for this at all and absolutely no excuse for the Catholic hierarchy to permit staff in Catholic schools to attend these (pretend) “anti-bullying” courses.

    • As I keep saying (but nobody seems to hear) we teach about the wrongness of bullying and discrimination by teaching about charity. Love God and our neighbour as ourselves, and we won’t bully anyone, wont’ discriminate unjustly against anyone.

      If Catholic educators don’t know this, what chance anyone else will work it out?

    • MM,

      That’s shocking; that bestiality is already legal in so many States in the USA is just amazing. Things are deteriorating fast.

      It will come here, no question about it, as you say. And, as you also say, Catholics will go along with it, because they’re no longer, in fact, Catholics at all in any meaningful sense. They are nominal Catholics and no more – and I doubt if that will be any use to them when they arrive at the Pearly Gates.

  4. The problem here is that you have a group of adults shouting for Brownie Points as they try to win acclaim for their open mindedness and tolerance and on the other hand you have children who do have problems but the adults do not really want to know what they are. For them the easy answer is the best answer. As they grow up children face all kinds of problems with their feelings and their bodies. When I was ten a chum touched me inappropriately but I objected and he later happily married and had children. Today my poor friend would not stand a chance as the seeking out of other genders is almost compulsory in ‘educated’ circles. In Canada recently it was emphasised that sex wiith animals was not against the law. To be fair to the Pope he did say recently that people should be content with the bodies they have. If I have an urge to wear woman clothes, I would resist. I have a choice and if I feel compelled to go against my will I would seek help. We always have choices And are gays really compelled to walk naked in a pride parade showing bodies they certainly should not be proud of, putting on a vulgar show to attract crowds. I had a photo recently on my Facebook showing a young girl about ten putting her hands to her eyes to avoid what was in front of her. Why did her mother bring her along? Having said this of course I am not denying homosexual feelings or bullying. Yes it does take place. But has years of anti-gay bashing brought about a change in the situation. Yes if you are after the brownie points you will say yes, but as HIV continues to rise and two weeks ago the NHS stated it would continue its ban on blood donors, who are homosexual an unhappy lifestyle is revealed, and dare I say a promiscuous lifestyle. Again to ask gays to abstain from sex causes a great deal of hostility. But that is where the Catholic Church should be proved right. We do ask the homosexual not to have sex but to abstain. But the Church in Britain has not time for asking personal sacrifice in such circumstances even though such a teaching would lead to a happier lifestyle. It does not want to talk about sexual ethics. It does not want to talk about marriage in any depth. And it fears standing up for the truth.

    • John,

      “But has years of anti-gay bashing brought about a change in the situation…”

      I’d love to see some of this “gay bashing” – from where I’m standing, sitting, kneeling or lounging, the “bashing” is coming FROM “the gays” and is aimed at anyone who dares to question homosexual activity.

      You are right, of course, about the hierarchy in the UK not asking for personal restraint in matters sexual – which makes one wonder how they lives their own lives, does it not?

      Look at how quickly and loudly they speak out about things like nuclear weapons, the environment etc. Where the issue is something that they think is important, something they believe in, they are not slow to preach about it loud and clear.

      Get it? Their silence on sexual morality, I mean? Get it now?

      • Ed your spot on I personally don’t use the G-Y word it’s one of the things I cannot understand. A person wants to be Homosexual says their proud of their lifestyle but please don’t call me Homosexual. Also the silence on the price of Homosexual behaviour. Their was a program on the TV called Unsafe Sex and The City . It interviewed a doctor in London who stated that HIV among Homosexuals was Epedemic never seen him back again. You hear how much such and such costs the NHS never have I heard how much Sexual diseases cost the NHS.

  5. When do you hear nowadays of Bishops and priests preaching about chastity and purity? I doubt that many do, in fact, the silence of the hierarchy on such matters is deafening.

    • Well said, Theresa Rose – see my response to John Kearney. It they actually believed in the importance of these virtues, they’d soon preach about them. Trust me.

  6. All very interesting folks – I’ve been here, there and everywhere today, home for minutes in between, so not had a chance to catch up with the blog and now I’m just back in after yet another journey. I must have done more miles today than a Ryanair pilot!

    I agree with the comments about parent-action – it’s puzzling that parents are so passive about such an important matter. I also wonder about teachers, and how any Catholic teacher will be able to go along with this.

    Anyway, I’ll get down to commenting in more detail later – just didn’t want you all to think I had emigrated.

  7. On the subject of the homo-fascist twisting of language, I recall emailing, several years ago, the US chapter of the Human Rights Campaign, a front group for the advocacy and promotion of the LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ agenda, to inquire about their hypocrisy. It seems they were insisting on opening the dialogue on some issue to their representatives (i.e. under the false flag of “diversity”), yet were rejecting the participation in this same dialogue by a conservative group.

    Their answer to my inquiry was that the position of the conservative group was “hurtful,” and should therefore be excluded from the table. It’s all about not hurting their feelings, you see. Terribly sensitive, these folks….with guilty consciences…which is why they just adore Pope “Who am I to Judge?”

    • RCA Victor

      Then maybe we should bleat about being “hurt” when accused of bullying when all we are doing is expressing an opinion, sob sob…

      After all, I distinctly remember the early debates about legalising homosexuality when that lobby bleated between sobs that all they wanted was to be decriminalised, and allowed to “love” the person of their choice, they weren’t asking to be treated the same as married people blah blah

      Whether they were being deliberately deceptive or just daft, I have no way of knowing.

    • Editor removed this comment because it refers to a typo in a comment posted earlier by Westminster Fly – a comment that suffered a “WordPress moment”, which I corrected on request by email. So, since nobody will get the joke, FOOF, I judged it simpler just to delete your comment.

    • Westminster Fly,

      Took a quick look at your link and got to the highlighted in bold remark about everything being in place for the 21st century: “We plan to enter the 21st century with a running start… everything is in place and nobody can stop us now” – so I look forward to reading the entire article later today. Thank you for posting it. Looks to be enlightening, to say the least.

    • Westminster Fly,

      I’ve read your link or most of it and it is not surprising. I’ve seen some of it before and it is very clear that the state of morals today in the west, has been planned for a very long time. They use very clever strategies that we can actually see before our own eyes every day of the week. It’s truly diabolical stuff.

  8. Having a family of young people, I worry at the “homilies” to which they are subjected. It is difficult for them never hearing about such teachings as “occasions of sin”, Holy Purity etc. We speak about it at home but, as one one our sons said yesterday, “it’s a different religion, Dad. I mean what you and Mam say and what the priests are saying, doing or not doing and to what they are turning a blind eye.”

    It makes one want to weep. Oh negligent bishops, you will pay dearly for this! I suggest you all collectively read Dante’s trilogy (instead of the nonsense you dream up at your collegiate meetings) to see your reserved places in Hell. Yes, upside down in pillars (you are supposed to be pillars of the Church) for all eternity!

  9. Olaf,

    Well said.

    I’ve today received the following press release from the Scottish Catholic Media Office – unusually, it’s not posted on the SCMO website, so I can’t link to it but here is the text of the announcement:

    News from the Archdiocese of St Andrews & Edinburgh

    Monday 25 July, 2016

    For Attn News Desks/Photo Desks

    Edinburgh’s saint-in-making takes to the stage at the Fringe Festival 2016

    Scotland’s very own saint-in-the-making will take to the stage during next month’s Edinburgh Fringe Festival. The Margaret Sinclair Story (6-12 August) is a brand new one-woman play that will be performed at the city’s St Patrick’s Church, the site of Venerable Margaret’s tomb.

    “This new one-woman play is such an exciting, novel and entertaining way to tell the story of an ordinary Edinburgh girl who lived a most extraordinary life of holiness such that her saintly reputation still inspires people worldwide,” said Archbishop Leo Cushley of St Andrews & Edinburgh at the media launch for the play.

    The Venerable Margaret Sinclair was born in Cowgate in Edinburgh’s Old Town in 1900, one of six children who grew up in poverty in a two-room basement. Her father was a dustman and she left school at 14. She worked as a French polisher, then in a biscuit factory and became a trade union activist.

    In 1923 Margaret entered a convent of the Order of Poor Clares in London, becoming Sister Mary Francis of the Five Wounds, where she helped the poor before dying of tuberculosis in 1925. She was declared “Venerable” by the Catholic Church in 1978 – two steps away from sainthood.

    Joining Archbishop Cushley for the play’s media launch were Stephen Callaghan, the drama’s writer and director, and actress Maryfrances Jennow who will play the role of Venerable Margaret.

    “I’m very honoured to have been asked by the Archdiocese of St Andrews & Edinburgh to write this play which I hope will be a joyful, vibrant and compelling depiction of Venerable Margaret’s life,” said Stephen, who is also the Director of the Archdiocese of Glasgow Arts Project.

    “I really think that Maryfrances Jennow is the perfect young actress to dramatically convey why Margaret is such a fabulous example of the joy of the Gospel lived out in daily life, a great example for our times – and especially for young people.”

    25-year-old Maryfrances hails from Glasgow and trained at the University of the West of Scotland. She turned professional as an actress last year and has been steadily building a successful stage career since.

    “I guess the first thing that struck me when I was offered the part of Margaret Sinclair is that we have the same name given her religious title was Mary Francis – we’re also similar ages,” said the young actress.

    “The more I’ve got to know about Venerable Margaret, the more I realise the drama, the struggle and, at times, the humour that’s involved in the heroic pursuit of being good, being virtuous in the day-to-day things of life – I’ve found her story inspirational and I just hope others who come to see the play arrive at the same conclusion.”

    ENDS

    Note to Editors:

    1. The Margaret Sinclair Story will take place at St Patrick’s Church, Cowgate, Edinburgh between August 6-12 at 7.45pm and August 9 and 11 at 3pm. Tickets: £6 waged and £5 unwaged/concession.

    2. During his 1982 visit to Scotland, Pope St John Paul II stated that “Margaret could well be described as one of God’s little ones, who through her very simplicity, was touched by God with the strength of real holiness of life, whether as a child, a young woman, an apprentice, a factory worker, a member of a trade union or a professed sister of religion”.

    3. Photographs of the launch at St Patrick’s Church are available from https://www.flickr.com/photos/139632090@N07/albums/72157670775558381

    Now, ordinarily, I would say that producing a play like this would be a very good thing but the following issues come to mind.

    1) The Edinburgh Fringe Festival isn’t renowned for producing plays exalting chastity and purity, not to mention Catholic saints. The exact opposite is the case.

    2) Margaret Sinclair was engaged to be married before she broke off the engagement and entered Religious Life. No prizes for guessing how that period of romance and engagement is likely to be portrayed, given that we are living at a time of sexual decadence, when sexual activity outside marriage is now the norm, with even the Pope apparently excusing it at every turn.

    So…

    I just might mosey along to see it for myself – it would be wonderful to be pleasantly surprised. However, as the Edinburgh folks might well say: “I hae ma doots…” (tr.I have my doubts)! I would certainly hate to see “Margaret Sinclair” being portrayed as behaving like a loose character from a TV soap.

    • Editor,

      I, too, wonder how the engagement will be covered in the play. I can’t see it being done tastefully. Why would they choose this saint and not St John Ogilvie, to make a play about? I think the romance element is what they will make a deal about. That’s the way of the world right now.

      • Laura,

        I suppose they’d say it was because Margaret is from Edinburgh but then again John Ogilvie was from Banffshire, still on the east coast.There’s no romantic entanglement in his life though, and there has to be something sexual these days in every drama. You’d think Archbishop Cushley would be savvy enough to realise that is a definite danger. Hopefully it won’t happen but it is a risk.

    • Editor,

      We rabid traditionalists are rather accustomed to being on the fringe….! I hope Ven. Margaret Sinclair works a miracle on the actress who will play her, but I had to pause over the period of her life described as a “trade union activist.” Was this woman another Dorothy Day?

      • RCA Victor,

        It’s quite some time since I read anything about Margaret Sinclair but I have no recollection of hearing that she was a “trade union activist”. I doubt very much if she were another Dorothy Day – the Church’s enemies would have made the most of that if there were any mileage in it. It’s more likely that she’s represented her colleagues in dealing with management in some innocent way and it now fits the “liberal” agenda to portray her as a fighting trade unionist.

        My own lasting memory from her life story is the way the factory workers who were her colleagues said that, while the workers were often crude in speech and used bad language routinely, they did not do so around Margaret. One colleague was quoted as saying something to the effect that, while Margaret did not express annoyance or complain at the language around her and the crude jokes, the other workers quickly came to the point where they just didn’t behave like that around her. In other words, her own quiet example of a hardworking, modest girl, spoke volumes.

        She is now being portrayed as a “very modern woman” – but she was most certainly NOT modern by today’s standards: she would now be regarded as a quintessentially old fashioned girl – but I doubt if we’ll see that depicted at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. If only. My guess is that she will be portrayed as just an ordinary factory worker like everyone else, then the romance and then a sudden switch to being interested in the Religious Life – the “God slot” thrown in towards the end. I’d love to be wrong; time will tell. I’m putting it in my diary and will try to go along.

    • Editor,

      What troubles me immediately is that the play is to be performed in St. Patrick’s Church. Do these people not realise that the House of God is not a theatre? I think Margaret Sinclair would have been appalled at the idea of a play being performed in a Catholic Church, regardless of the life it was depicting. There is one much holier than any saint housed in that Church, a fact that the organisers and promoters of this latest outrage appear to have forgotten.

      • Athanasius,

        Yes, I did notice that the play is being performed in St Patrick’s – disgraceful. It immediately put me off even thinking of attending but then again, it is perhaps all the more reason to see exactly what is going on. If, for example, there are shabby scenes being enacted there, in the presence of priests and no doubt the Archbishop himself, that would be worth recording for posterity. And yes, I know, I know… what has posterity ever done for us?!

        • Editor

          I think it would be well worth attending this event to see just how outrageous it becomes. Remember Cardinal O’Brien and his performance of the Hippopotamus song in St. Patrick’s to mark the Fringe? Could this effort turn out to be a worse sacrilege? These people are lost to all reverence for Almighty God.

          • Athanasius,

            I fully agree. Much as it will be painful to see, of that there is no doubt, I don’t think they should be allowed to get away with rave reviews in the secular press and from the lips of our faithless hierarchy.

  10. With all this talk of Homosexual Transgender so called education it would really make you weep but of course we need look no farther than the so called den of iniquity called The Scottish Parliament. Our Bishops must come out first and foremost and condemn this place it’s just a breeding ground for Homosexual Transgender Deviants. Also I remember a quote long ago and its definitely prevalent today–If a dog is born in a stable you can never make it a Horse–unquote.

    • Our Bishops must come out first and foremost and condemn this place..

      Oh er, yes. Don’t hold your breath FOF.

      • Therese,

        Well said. At every opportunity the bishops praise “this place” to the skies. They send representatives along every now and then to do a “reflection” and more or less affirm the Government in its evil machinations. Always include a prayer that the politicians will bear in mind God’s law when passing legislation completely ignoring the fact that just about every law that’s been passed since devolution is manifestly in opposition to God’s law.

        Who – just who – do they think they are fooling? They’re making themselves a laughing stock, that is for sure.

    • FOOF,

      Here’s a variation on your concluding quote: you can lead a modern bishop to the truth, but you can’t make him Catholic…

  11. I know –Just seen a Homosexual Church of Scotland Minister a few weeks ago (as you probably all did say ) that Scotland was the best country in the World to be an LGBTQIAFEPW just added a couple that Victor missed . No doubt though the Homosexual crowd will add on another few in the days to come . I can even see them adding on an – N- for normal.

  12. It’s like being in the land of make belief or never ever land or at the mad hatter’s tea-party! I have to pinch myself to see if I’m not dreaming, or nightmaring, as my 7 year old says!

    I wouldn’t dream of sending my kids to these do lally schools. Imagine, the bishops, our shepherds, have let us all down. I suppose, in fairness to them, they are out of their depth and don’t know what to do. These perverts, on the other hand, are so devious and have their agendas all planned out.

  13. From the blue comment in the introduction:

    “Nobody but nobody will convince me that these self-styled education “experts” and the Bishops do not know perfectly well that “addressing LGBTI+ matters in an appropriate and sensitive way” means condoning sexually deviant behaviour and accepting its normalisation – and imposition – by those guilty of this grave sin, which Christians have always believed, is a sin “crying to Heaven for vengeance.”

    I absolutely agree with that. It’s just not possible that the bishops and the education service staff do not realise exactly what is going on here, so they have to be in favour of it, of encouraging young people into the homosexual lifestyle.

    It all goes to show what a hypocrite the Archbishop of Glasgow is, bearing in mind that when he first became a bishop (of Paisley, I believe) he made a speech saying every Catholic had to be prepared to go to prison rather than go along with the LGBT agenda. Those turned out to be meaningless words. How can this man look himself in the mirror now, with this huge sell-out to the LGBT lobby?

  14. If the Scottish Bishops had any sense (obviously, this scenario could only be in some kind of alternate universe) they would use this stage-managed (LGBTQI-ABC-XYZ)^3 campaign as a vehicle to broadcast Catholic teaching.

    By that I mean, they could argue that – of course pupils will be taught to treat such people with respect – but, at the same time, they will give the Catholic side of the story as to homosexuality etc (after all, the right of families to value-based education is a human right).

    When I was at secondary school in the early 1990s, we were taught about homosexuality in both RE and Guidance class. It was quite brief, and only promoting kind / fair treatment of persons with same sex attraction etc, as per the Catechism

    We were let down by the complete lack of teaching as regards what the Church says about homosexuality itself and why. And so there was no balance to the topic. The impression given was that the school suspected us all of being vicious bullies and Church teaching was irrelevant on the subject.

    The referendum outcome in Ireland shows the wages (rotten fruit) of this erroneous approach.

    The former director of SCES, Michael McGrath, seemed quite resolute in his public comments on the proposals. I have yet to hear or read anything on the subject from Barbara Couper, his successor.

  15. I have just signed the following petition, and urge all bloggers to do so as well: as we know, we can no longer rely on the Scottish Bishops to fight for the protection of children from the LGBT agenda – quite the reverse; they are pushing this agenda by their complicity in spreading the ideology – so it is only by means of such petitions (and, of course, prayer) that we can make an attempt at challenging the Government’s attack on childhood innocence:

    THE PETITION FOLLOWS…

    North Ayrshire Council Promotes Transsexualism to Children As Young as Five And Undermines the Rights of Parents

    As part of Scotland’s Named Person (NP) scheme, each council in Scotland will have to produce a Children’s Services Plan. As such, North Ayrshire have released a document entitled Getting It Right For You (GIRFY) in which it promotes transgender ideology to children as young as five.

    The NP scheme is dangerous and ill thought out, but has been made even more so with the release of North Ayrshire’s Children’s Services Plan. GIRFY is a 78-page guidebook which informs children from as young as five that their upbringing is a “shared journey” between them, their parents and their Named Person, and introduces these children to transgender ideology.

    The NP scheme undermines the role of parents and GIRFY gives us an indication of the ideology being promoted with the NP scheme.

    Background. The Named Person scheme, to be launched in Scotland at the end of August, assigns a state official tasked with looking after the well-being of every child in Scotland. The idea of a state guardian was introduced to ensure that every child gets the support they need and to prevent cases of abuse and neglect.

    However, whatever the good intentions of this scheme, it has rightly been criticised for being overly intrusive into family life and undermining the rights of parents. For example, one father in Scotland, Andrew Smith, found the minutiae of his family life recorded without his consent. The NP noted such things as nappy rash and the youngest child having a “depressed mood”.

    Andrew said: “I have provided them with independent accounts that show that some of those statements are false, but they refuse to enter them. So the impression is that they are trying to build a case against me.”

    Many are concerned that this will be used against parents when the state decides that the parents are not teaching their children the “correct” worldview.

    We have seen how intrusive and dangerous the NP scheme might be, but just how dangerous it is, is made concrete by the document (GIRFY) released by North Ayrshire council. If the Named Person can find fault with nappy rashes and a child having a “depressed mood”, surely they will be able to find fault with the parents who reject transgender ideology. If a case could be made against Andrew Smith, how much easier will it be to make a case against a parent who rejects transgender ideology?

    The document says: “It takes time to figure out who we are sexually and to understand our gender identity… The important thing is to be true to how you feel at the time and to respect yourself and others around you.”

    The question is: what happens to the parents who do not accept this ideology?

    What happens if a Named Person accepts this ideology and recommends that a child confused about his/her gender begin to transition and a parent objects? It is easy enough to manufacture a case against any parent, and we would surely be naïve to think that it could not happen here.

    We should reject this Children’s Services Plan and should resist the Named Person scheme which has the power to implement it.

    Sign this petition to Willie Gibson, Chair of North Ayrshire Community Planning Partnership and John Butcher, Chair of North Ayrshire Children’s Services Strategic Partnership, asking them to offer guarantees that when conflicts arise parents will remain the primary educators of their own children.

    To sign the petition, click here

  16. I have just received the following email from an RE teacher in Glasgow:

    I am deeply concerned at the latest development’s in the sphere of LGBTI matters specifically in relation towards is impact towards the nature of Catholic Education under the spurious secularist ridden terms of tolerance, respect etc and of the Scottish hierarchy’s capitulation towards these issues in the face of culturally aggressive secularists and moral relativists. Catholic schools are confessional environments that teach defend and promote a very specific view of mankind as created in God’s image and likeness human anthropology, relationships, marriage etc. are taught in the context of that belief and understanding and re-affirmed by our blessed saviour himself.

    Catholic schools teach the beauty meaning and dignity of all human beings but within the understanding of God’s divine laws and revelation. It is not for individuals within the hierarchy or the CEC/ CHAS environment to collaborate with elements of society who openly and aggressively reject this to use laws under the guise of acceptance etc. to impose on my children cultures and lifestyles which are in direct violation of the natural law and divine positive law. As a teacher of RE and a parent I will not promote or permit my children to be exposed to a dysfunctional pedagogical rationale which does violence to the nature and integrity of our faith and the spiritual and moral formation of my/our children.

    Please print my name and address and I will gladly – from my role in education – keep CT fully informed of such matters and subsequent developments. END.

    I’ve decided not to publish the name of this teacher yet – I said we would consider that in time for the September newsletter.

    Allow me to say this, though. I am aware of the need for prudence, when a parent has responsibility to feed, clothe and house his/her offspring.

    However, I’m also aware – and I speak from experience – that when we are forced into a situation where we must depend almost wholly on Divine Providence, God keeps His word of rewarding, one hundred-fold, those who put Him first.

    Enough from me for now – discuss!

    • Thank the Lord there is at least one teacher willing to stand up and be counted on this issue. There are plenty in the “prudence” tent. It’s refreshing to see a teacher who is also a parent willing to speak up. God bless him!

  17. However, I’m also aware – and I speak from experience – that when we are forced into a situation where we must depend almost wholly on Divine Providence, God keeps His word of rewarding, one hundred-fold, those who put Him first.

    I too can vouch for this.

    • Therese

      I agree. There is no way God would not come to the help of any teacher who gets persecuted over taking a stand against this evil, not when it’s a sin crying to heaven for vengeance.

  18. I do agree that God will not be outdone in generosity, but I also think it might be pointless for one teacher to make a stand like this. I’d say that’s asking for trouble and that he/she may be dismissed for gross professional misconduct.

    • Catriona,

      I understand where you are coming from. I have been wondering where all the teachers are who I know read this blog – why wont they even comment anonymously? It doesn’t augur well for the teacher who emailed editor.

      In that case you may be right about this poor teacher being hung out to dry if he or she speaks out, without other colleagues doing the same, there is every chance he/she may lose their job, but surely someone has to make a stand?

      • Now hold on guys, are you telling me that ALL Catholic teachers are NOT up in arms about this “capitulation of the Scottish hierarchy” and are thus exposing the lambs, never mind the sheep, to the secularist wolves?

        • Crofterlady,

          Yip. We’re telling you precisely that. Most Catholic teachers are nervous about standing up to be counted on the LGBT front. I’m reliably informed that the LGBT lobby has a firm grip on Catholic schools with most senior management going along to get along if not, in fact, fully in agreement with that evil agenda – and many of them ARE in agreement with it. Shock horror.

          These teachers and senior management need to reflect speedily and deeply on the Gospel warning about what will happen to those who cause one of Christ’s “little ones” to sin. Better that a millstone be placed around that person’s neck and they be drowned in the depth of the sea – to quote Our Lord’s own words.

          Shudder. Better, methinks, to have to go cap in hand to the mortgage company to reschedule the payments. Yes? No?

          Because, then, those same teachers and senior management can reflect, with confidence, on that other profoundly pleasing Scriptural passage: “Those who instruct many in virtue, shall shine like bright stars for all eternity.” (Daniel 12:3)

          • I am stunned at the Scottish bishops’ approach to this. Surely they should be promoting Catholic teaching at all times and insisting that only Catholic teaching is taught in Catholic schools?

            It’s shocking that teachers feel they cannot speak out about this for fear of retaliation. I work in the non-denominational sector and I find that staff are very respectful when I speak about Catholic teaching. In fact, they always say that that’s what they expect from a Catholic. They can’t understand why Catholic teachers would face retaliation for speaking out.

            As always, the buck stops with the bishops. The key question now is – what is the point of having a Catholic sector ?

            • Exactly the same thought crossed my mind: What IS the point of having a Catholic sector? Catholic schools have a good academic reputation but so what if the Faith is being neglected?
              My aunt sent all her children to the non-denominational sector to save their Faith from being plundered. Like Petrus, she found that sector very respectful of their beliefs and never, ever tried to denigrate them in any way. They are all practicing Catholic adults now, more than we can say for most children who leave Catholic schools!

  19. I too have duly signed the petition. With the imposition of an ill thought out Named Person scheme, says to me that children are seen as mere property of the State, who sees no need for the parents to raise their own children.

    It is morally reprehensible that the State will in fact, be the abusers of children – determined to teach everything about sexually deviant behaviour, an easy lesson on how to destroy innocence.

    • RCA Victor,

      Once we’re out of the EU, all that will change and we’ll be much more fussy about who is permitted to sign our petitions, that sort of thing 😀

      Thanks everyone for signing – I think it’s really important. Not that petitions really make that much difference but if you have one, better to get lots of signatures. As I said about the Conference recently, it sends the powers that be a signal. So, if you’ve not signed yet, I urge you so to do.

  20. I couldn’t hear the ruling in the Supreme Court, due to problems with my browser, but it’s a victory according to this report published minutes after the judgment was handed down.

    No wonder Mzzzzzz Sturgeon is anxious to get out of the UK. That would completely scupper her dictatorial ambitions.

    • That’s fantastic news! I’m delighted! One in the eye for Nicola Sturgeon.

      More importantly, it’s a relief to parents who have been worried sick about this intrusive law.

      The Government can improve the legislation with 40 odd days, but at least the worst parts will be gone. Deo gratias!

  21. It is great news but I see from that BBC report that John Swinney says the SNP Government will still be implementing the NP scheme nationally as soon as possible.

    It seems to be only the information data sharing that is declared unlawful – does that mean a state official can still be appointed? I don’t think the report is very clear on that.

    • Margaret Mary,

      I think they have got to start from scratch. This statement is from the NO2NP scheme campaign itself:

      Victory! Supreme Court strikes down Named Person scheme
      Judges at the UK Supreme Court have declared the Scottish Government’s ‘state snooper’ Named Person scheme to be illegal.

      The controversial legislation has been condemned for breaching the human rights of families.

      It is the first time the Supreme Court has prevented a major piece of legislation passed by the Scottish Parliament from coming into force.

      Unanimous decision
      In a historic verdict, five of the UK’s most senior judges, including two Scots, unanimously overturned decisions by the courts in Edinburgh on the legality of the Named Person provisions of the Children and Young People (Scotland) Act 2014

      The judges branded the law “defective” for breaching the article 8 of the European Convention of Human Rights (ECHR), which guarantees everyone’s “right to a private and family life”.

      They declared Holyrood had exceeded its powers by making a law which allowed public bodies to share sensitive private information about children and parents without consent.

      The judges stated:

      “The sharing of personal data between relevant public authorities is central to the role of the named person … the operation of the information sharing provisions will result in interferences with the rights protected by article 8 of the ECHR” (Para. 78). Because of the lack of safeguards “the overriding of confidentiality is likely often to be disproportionate” (Para. 100).

      They concluded:
      “…the information sharing provisions of Part 4 of the Act are not within the legislative competence of the Scottish Parliament” (Para. 106).

      “…since the defective provisions are not within the legislative competence of the Parliament, they cannot be brought into force.” (Para. 109)

      Privacy protected
      We’re delighted with the decision. It proves that the concerns we all had about this scheme were properly founded. It was intrusive, incomprehensible and illegal.

      The judges state quite clearly that the information sharing provisions of the Act are incompatible with the rights of children, young persons and parents under article 8 of the ECHR because they are not in accordance with the law.

      The Scottish Government has been blocked from implementing this scheme on August 31. It must scrap its plan for state snoopers with intrusive data sharing powers. It has to go back to the legislative drawing board if it wants to try again.

      But they would have to come up with a much more limited scheme that actually respects the rights of children and parents. The Big Brother scheme is history.

      This is wonderful news for mums, dads and children all across Scotland who no longer have to worry about this unjustified invasion of their private lives. The court has sided with ordinary families and put the Scottish Government back in its place.

      The judgment emphasises the importance of article 8 and, in a withering verdict on the Government flagship legislation, said:

      “The first thing that a totalitarian regime tries to do is to get to the children, to distance them from the subversive, varied influences of their families, and indoctrinate them in their rulers’ view of the world. Within limits, families must be left to bring up their children in their own way.” (Para. 73)

      They also quoted from a US Supreme Court judgement which states:
      “The child is not the mere creature of the state” (para. 73).

      The decision by the judges is a devastating critique of this fatally flawed scheme. It is holed below the water line. Let us hope it sinks without trace.

      The Government needs to have the humility to admit defeat and ditch the scheme forever.

      NO2NP will still be on the alert to make sure this judgment is complied with.

      Kind regards,
      The NO2NP Team

      • Lily,

        WOW! I’ve highlighted the following extracts from the NO2NP campaign statement, and it is gold-dust…

        “The Big Brother scheme is history.

        This is wonderful news for mums, dads and children all across Scotland who no longer have to worry about this unjustified invasion of their private lives. The court has sided with ordinary families and put the Scottish Government back in its place.

        The judgment emphasises the importance of article 8 and, in a withering verdict on the Government flagship legislation, said:

        “The first thing that a totalitarian regime tries to do is to get to the children, to distance them from the subversive, varied influences of their families, and indoctrinate them in their rulers’ view of the world. Within limits, families must be left to bring up their children in their own way.” (Para. 73)

        They also quoted from a US Supreme Court judgement which states:
        “The child is not the mere creature of the state” (para. 73).

        As I said at the beginning of this comment – WOW!

        It’s a bit of a stretch, however, to suggest that “The (Scottish) Government needs to have the humility to admit defeat and ditch the scheme forever…”

        There writes Walter Mitty!

        • Editor,

          Gold dust indeed. I’ve been fighting it out on Scottish Primary Teachers Facebook group. It’s amazing how ignorant teachers are – they seem to have no issues with the NP! It’s very worrying.

          • Petrus,

            I’m just amazed that not one of the TV news reports today has quoted the judgment reference to totalitarian regimes. Did any of the teachers in the Facebook group comment on that?

            • No they ignored it. But I posted it over and over again! They can’t believe that I oppose the SNP never mind the NP.

            • Petrus,

              So much for the critical thinking skills of those teachers. Their thinking is about as independent as a semi-detached bungalow. Please feel free to quote me!

    • Laura,

      You are right about poor parents who have been worried sick about this NP scheme. A relief beyond belief, now to see the Supreme Court in London rule that it is illegal. Brilliant!

    • MM

      John Swinney’s immediate, prideful response, is just what I would expect from him and the SNP Government.

      If you recall, I went to see my MSP at his surgery on this matter, representing some parents too afraid to put their heads above the parapet for fear of being branded troublemakers. He replied to me by email later, and arrogantly included two links to Government web-pages that he patronisingly hoped would “clarify” matters for me. I left that email un-answered until this morning. I replied about ten minutes after reading the ruling from the Supreme Court, with all the usual blethering thanks for having seen me at his surgery and for his reply with the links to “clarify” matters for me, adding that, however, I think the Supreme Court ruling just handed down would clarify matters for him and his Government, that the legislation, as it now stands, is unlawful.

      I then laughed all the way to the kitchen to pour a celebratory glass of water. Well… we ARE living at a time of austerity 😀

  22. What fantastic news about the court ruling. Our prayers have been answered.

    Its quite remarkable that the judgement makes reference to totalitarian regimes and this kind of language rips the veil from the arrogant SNP.

    Amazingly, I was celebrating the judgement in work and most colleagues confessed they “didn’t know much about it”. This is despite the great efforts made by the NO2NP campaign and all the publicity. It just shows how some people drift through life in a wee bubble, only concerned with coronation street and football.

    Nicola Sturgeon has no children and, of the other political leaders in Holyrood, 3 are homosexuals. I think this collective lack of experience of children and families is undoubtedly why this state snooper scheme came so close to being implemented. There was no firm opposition to it from with the parliament, which was a disgrace given the opposition among the public.

    The SNP Government is a failure. Its flagship policy – independence – was rejected by the public and much of its legislation ends up embroiled in the courts, wasting taxpayers money, before being ultimately blocked.

    In addition to this, their “minimum alcohol pricing” scheme was blocked by courts also (I called this latter scheme the “punish enjoyment” scheme, as it would make it more costly for people to enjoy a few beers, or glass of wine, at the end of the working week).

    It seems the SNP government understands its role as being to interfere in our daily lives and tell us our business. They should butt out and just get on with fixing the roads!

    • Gabriel Syme,

      “The SNP government should butt out and just get on with fixing the roads!”

      LOL! I do agree.

      I was watching the BBC news just now and even the news reporters are spouting rubbish about this, making out that the majority are in favour of the NP scheme “in principle”. Not one mention on the news of the “totalitarian regimes” point made in the ruling, which is very serious indeed.

      If we didn’t see and hear it for ourselves online, we really wouldn’t know the half of it. They report a load of unimportant stuff – like the two items on the UK wide news, one about Beatrix Potter books and the next one about some theme park going to a heritage group, or something (I lost interest!) when I would have preferred more details about the NP scheme ruling.

      The media really do treat the people of the UK like idiots.

      • Josephine,

        What did the BBC say about the Beatrix Potter books? Did they mention that her husband founded the (socialist) Fabian Society?

        • RCA Victor,

          It was just a silly report about the popularity of the books but then saying that they dealt with themes like death and how children respond well to that sort of thing. I googled and found this on the BBC site
          http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20160728-the-hidden-adult-themes-in-beatrix-potter

          My point was that a whole chunk of the news was taken up with these trivial stories and the important news of the day, like the NP scheme ruling, was glossed over. It really is insulting.

          You would think that the Judges saying that the Scottish Government is showing totalitarian tendencies would get a mention, but no. Beatrix Potter and a Disney theme park were more important – LOL!

          • Josephine,

            Very predictable! I’m sure the silence is just temporary, to give them time to develop a party line about the NP ruling which will disguise and misrepresent the whole thing.

            Speaking of B. Potter and her socialist husband, I always thought it interesting that the “Peter Rabbit” books seemed to promote a fear of farmers – that is, the natural enemies of socialists and the banksters who are behind them.

    • Gabriel

      The minimum alcohol pricing only affects those at the lower end of the payscales, e.g., Catholic Truth bloggers and “buckie” drinkers.

      It won`t cost wee Angela, sorry, Nicola, one thin dime more for her G&Ts.

  23. One thought I have seen raised in newspaper online comments sections is:

    This ruling will likely generate a host of additional court cases for the SNP Government, because this illegal scheme had already been imposed on people in various parts of the country for trial purposes.

    As it has now been determined that these people have had their human rights breached, I daresay the SNP will be fielding a few compensation claims in the near future!

  24. Gabriel Syme,

    I wish someone would take up that idea and sue the tartan socks off the Scottish Government!

    If it weren’t for the fact that I’m just about at death’s door (long story, don’t ask!) I’d to out and buy a lottery ticket with a view to suing them myself!

  25. A very revealing interview of Randy Engel, by John Vennari, on the duplicitous introduction of sex education into Catholic schools, and on the scandalous, anti-Catholic treatment of it in AL: http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/8b1af5deea9a985b5e0eaa54bfd44605-617.html

    According to this article, the very idea of sex education in school, esp. in Catholic schools, is the first step on the downward path to sexual deviance. In fact, claims Randy Engel, the prelates/clergy who promoted this in the USA Church were all homosexuals! Starting with the infamous Cardinal Bernardin….

    • RCA Victor,

      That is really shocking to think that the sex education in Catholic schools was actually mandated at the Council. I didn’t know that. It’s getting worse and worse. That’s a very informative interview indeed. I will need to re-read it to take it all in.

  26. I heard on the radio today that police in Scotland have discovered on the internet over thirty million obscene images of children being sexually abused, and part of the advice from one Scottish policewoman was “more sex education for children in schools”. You really, really couldn’t make it up.

    • Therese,

      That was the first item on the TV news tonight as well – incredible. And to suggest more sex-education as a means of ending the sexual abuse of children is nothing but crass stupidity.

      The old saying: “The blind leading the blind” has all but lost its meaning – everyone in any kind of leadership position, whether in the Church, education, politics or law, seems to as thick as mince.

      Don’t get me wrong, I love mince, but you’ll get my drift…

  27. See the short video below for a report on the climb-down from the Scottish Government – I meant to post it yesterday but didn’t have a second. The other reports on this Christian Institute video are also very interesting indeed – so interesting that they didn’t make the mainstream news media ….

    • That’s great news, especially the quote from the Supreme Court ruling which say the Government cannot be permitted to presume a child is at risk just because the parents do not want anything to do with the Named Person. That’s a fantastic quote. The SNP is really humiliated now.

    • That’s an excellent video. The whole scheme needs to be binned as it is unraveling day by day.

    • A really excellent video. I can see this Named Person Scheme being kicked into the long grass eventually, and the sooner the better. Red faces all round in the SNP!

  28. This blind attitude towards the safety of children, relying on their ignorance towards sex and sexuality, is ignorant and baseless in itself. If young people aren’t taught about sex in a way which is honest and comes from safe discussion in classrooms, then they will learn about it from the internet, from conversations with people who they don’t know and from pornography. Curiosity about sex is an inherent human thing, restricting knowledge is aimless and creates people’s sexual frustration and latter abuse in the first place.

    Take a genuine look at your own sexuality and sexual history.

    • “…blind attitude”? With news reports of children abusing other children and even websites dedicated to the problem, I can’t see that sexualising children from an early age has helped “towards the safety of children”. Quite the reverse.

      As for teaching it to prevent other sources, such as pornography, from giving them information – well, the answer to that is to put an end to the current obsession with sex in society. Give it a rest and we’ll all benefit, children included.

      To argue that “curiosity about sex is an inherent human thing” is a tad off the mark. The fact is that young children through to puberty, left to themselves without the obsessive coverage of sexual matters in adverts and on TV etc, do not take any interest in the subject. Some years ago, I heard a very interesting talk on this subject and the speaker used a term coined by psychologists to describe this stage of development in the young, but it escapes my memory at the moment. One thing which has stuck in my memory, however, is her warning that there is a link between early sex education and violence in young women, because, she argued, to force explicit sex talk and/or images on a tender young mind, causes disturbance to the young mind.

      So, it’s not about “restricting knowledge” but about allowing a child to develop naturally and leaving any conversations about delicate personal matters to parents. They love their children; State officials don’t. Their only interest in this context is to prevent births, and we can see where that has led – depending on immigration to populate the land. Well, not their only interest; they also want control of children’s minds and to sexualise them in order to change behaviour, and undermine the rights of parents to raise their children in the way they, the parents (not the State) see fit.

      As for your closing statement – what does that mean? Please explain.

      • I undersatnd and you make good points, yet, it both in personal experience and the knowledge of the widespread nature of this issue that this is based, having not had parents willing to talk to me about sex in any way it was left to the very hesitant attitude of my schools teaching, my peers (mainly from religious families but very sexually explicit in the many many jokes made about “your mum” etc) and pornography (from age 14) to teach me and therein I learned things which I believe indeed stopped me from a natural progression, sexual interests which were not my own. But I cannot help thinking that to try and end the deeply, deeply embedded culture of sexualisation that grips our society is desirable (to help children to be safe, and not to be so obsessed and/or afraid of sex) but impossible with the growing influence of technology on all of our lives and the inevitable liberalisation of more people in this country and others, which I cannot see as a bad thing in that it does encourage an attitude of fellowship with all people at least in the circles I live in. Frankly I find your attitude towards the LGBT community hurtful as I and many friends live in that ‘agenda’ as you call it. I believe that this is a generation that has in many respects turned its back on the values of religion, as you probably know. It is only my message that in the world of many and not of few sex is not going to just go away. I understand that the UK will likely never adopt such a secular attitude as the Netherlands have towards sexual education, but in a time where the innocence of children really is taken away by the adult world in respects different to the ways it has always been (slavery, corporal punishment, verbal abuse – things that you can’t be ‘educated’ about) surely an education is the way forward, http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/spring-fever/

        As for my last statement, apologies, it was late at night, I think I was loosely thinking about how sexuality is a psychologically deep rooted thing, non-logical and full of thoughts and fantasy, and that in every person our experiences differ, it was an offer to think about that I guess.

      • Editor
        Period of time from age 3 up to puberty is “latent phase” (think that is the correct term). You are correct in saying that children at that stage of development, left alone, will lose interest in the opposite sex and prefer to associate with their own sex and channel their energy into things like hobbies or sports. Children do not need to know about things which are of an adult nature.

        • Spiritus,

          What a star! That’s exactly it – the latency period. And I’ve witnessed it in operation, a few years ago, when a young mother I was visiting in hospital after the birth of her second child,was showing off her newborn baby in hospital and her toddler son was sitting up on the bed beside her. The mother pointed to her tummy and said “look, you’ve got a little brother now, see mummy’s tummy is small again cos that’s where the baby was…”

          The toddler totally ignored her, and she repeated it a couple of times, then shrugged her shoulders, as the toddler stretched over to pull a teddy closer up towards himself and then looked around the visitors, having obviously not taken in a word. I was cringing, dying to say “He doesn’t have a clue, leave him be, he doesn’t want to know.”

          Later I told the mother about the latency period and she was astonished, but glad to know, rather than damage her child’s innocent mind.

          So, many thanks for that, Spiritus.

    • Actionbaby

      There speaks the voice of true ignorance, the voice of the godless Freud and his like.

      Does it never occur to people like you that to speak of sex to young people is to activate the imagination and encourage experiment? Why would you want to rob children of their childhood nnocence? The world does not, contrary to what you believe, revolve around sex. There are so many more lofty and meaningful apsects to life. It’s the people who talk sex to children, however intellectual they try to make it sound, who are the ones who should come under scrutiny, not those who seek to protect their childhood innocence.

      And by the way, the world managed perfectly well to deal with sex and sexuality for thousands of years before the sexual revolution of the 60s. What you advocate in truth is not new at all, it is merely a return to the hedonistic pagan cultures of the past. Take a good look around you and see the deterioration in human behaviour since the liberals took control and exiled God from society. Cultural suicide is what you preach.

      Study history and you’ll discover that a common feature of all the great empires of the pagan world was an obsession with sex which marked the death throes of their culture. Sex apart from God and His Commandments is not freedom, it’s licence and it ultimately destroys individuals and nations.

      No, let’s not pollute young minds with sex under the pretext of education. Let us rather protect childhood innocence and happiness for as long as we can. God knows, they’ll grow up and learn about the world soon enough. It’s our duty to ensure that a happy childhood together with sound supernatural preparation of soul will equip them sufficiently for adulthood. It worked very well for two thousand years up to 1960!

      Remember the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ: “Woe to those who scandalise one of these little ones of mine. It would be better that a millstone be hanged around his neck and he be cast into the deepest river.” That divine warning stands for all the child “sex educators” of today who have ruined youth.

      • The innocence of children has never been protected by society truly. Children have been enslaved, beaten and verbally abused throughout the eden of pure youth you speak of. I believe that being afraid of sex leads to severe, real world complications, and that the biological urges of sex are there whether or not we speak of them. We are addressing this issue clearly from different beliefs, I do not believe in the worldwide salvation of man that reportedly happened two thousand years ago.

        I am also inclined to believe that 1960 was not really the beginning of sexual experimentation outside of marriage and heterosexual adult relations.

        • Action Baby,

          The 1960s is when breaking down the sacred-ness of sex began in earnest in our society. Just because bad things happened before was no reason to make them legal and treat them like something desirable. Just because children were badly treated in the past, doesn’t mean we should continue to do so via sex education which is not making anybody happier except the sexologists who are raking in the money.

          Sex is not for “experimentation” but for procreation. The two have been separated and now we have disease and misery as a result.

          • As another human on this earth I respect your opinion, but I would honestly ask how it is you expect anyone on the other side of this argument to react without dismissing your opinions as driven by the fear of a force that they do not believe in.

            • AB,

              Firstly, nobody has to “respect” anyone else’s opinion, mine included. That is one of these statements that is routinely held today and all due to a lack of understanding of objective truth. If something is objectively true, then I can have all the opinions to the contrary in the world, but it won’t make a blind bit of difference to the truth. Hence, for the sexologists to try to separate procreation and marriage from sexual intimacy, doesn’t change the objective truth that, once that is the norm (as in our society) we have emotional turmoil, instability in human relationships, a breakdown in marriage and family life – in short, social disaster.

              Secondly, the problem with beginning from a false premise, is that one then reaches a false conclusion.

              The simple fact is that, despite the atheistic propaganda holding sway at this moment in time, we are NOT free to reject God and if it’s evidence you are looking for, check out the First Commandment.

              Of course the answer to that will be “but if I don’t accept the existence of God, I obviously don’t accept the Commandments.”

              And in that word “accept” lies the problem. You don’t have that choice, not morally, nobody does. God has given us intelligence and freedom so that we will choose Him.
              He has revealed Himself to us, albeit not via scientific experiments – and nobody talks more about God than atheists so Christ, God the Son, wasn’t kidding when He gave them the solution to their restlessness of spirit: “Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in Me.”

              We embrace belief in God – not decide to wait until we’re satisfied, in our limited human intelligence, that He exists. He exists all right and once you embrace that faith, you will soon come to see that it’s not fear of God that drives us (except a healthy fear, as we have of many other good things) but the love of God. Once we love God, everything else in our lives is properly ordered to the good.

              Notice that, at all the major catastrophes in our world, whether terrorist attacks or natural disasters, we hear of the need to pray for the victims and their families, and so on. There were no any atheists within shouting distance of a TV crew or microphone in any of the recent horrors, whether Nice, Paris, or, currently, at the earthquake site in Italy.

              Finally, having said all of that, it is perfectly possible to come to the same view about children, sexualisation etc as expressed on this blog, without sharing our Faith. Plenty of people of no religious faith at all, lament the shocking statistics on STDs and the sexual exploitation of children, all of which has its beginnings in school sex education.

              I’m expecting a visitor shortly, so have to disappear for a bit and I’m not sure this post is as clear as it could be, so please excuse me for rushing this comment. Will see if I can be clearer when I re-appear later.

              God bless!

              • Respect is a matter of understanding, I respect that this is your opinion, I will take it into account when forming my response. Ergo, I intended to make it clear that I understood that this comment was earnest.

                The world that you speak of, of ideal marriage, between a man and a woman, has gone. Social disaster and tragedy has been around us forever, there has never been a time when children haven’t been exploited.

                There are many matters here.

            • Actionbaby

              If you do not want to be driven by a force you do not believe in then be driven by the force of medical evidence supporting the horrendous results when society casts all moral restraint aside in the name of freedom.

              Homosexual activity, for example, now commonly encouraged in young people at a confused age, has the most dreadful medical consequences for those who indulge in it. That information is largely suppressed by the pro sex-ed brigade today.

              Likewise, condom use is strongly suspected of causing cancer in various areas of the nether regions. It is also known not to guarantee safety from pregnancy, sexual disease or HIV due to natural imperfections in the product. The continued growth and spread of sexual disease is testament to the failure of this method of contraception.

              The pill is largely suspected of causing both thrumbosis and breast cancer in those who use it.

              So you see, even from a medical point of view there is every reason not to encourage the present programme of sexualising children, which in turn just encourages them to experiment at a young age.

              The Christian ethos is the only valid one, which is to advocate abstinence until marriage and then to stay married to one person for life (marriage of course being naturally between a man and a woman). Society operated perfectly well on this moral platform for nearly 2000 years up to 1960.

              Human beings cannot cast aside the laws of God and nature and expect not to have serious consequences. The moral law is there for our own good. Cast it aside and you end up with the dignity of human beings being reduced to base sex. It is a vastly over blown subject today, as though it were the be all and end all of human existence. It’s actually quite frightening to think that humanity has come to fixate on its basest instincts, lost to its greater dignity above the animal kingdom. They can’t even sell a bar of chocolate on TV these days without sexualising the advert. How very tragic!

              • I do not mean to seem rude, however I think I am myself too wrapped up currently to be having a convoluted debate about many aspects of the faith and non faith of people and the prevalence of sex (which I do believe is overblown, overused by advertising and holding back society in several ways, but for precisely the opposite reasons as yourself). I hope you can forgive those who you believe have damned this world, myself, my friends and family included.

                • Actionbaby

                  This is not about apportioning blame to anyone. It is about trying to encourage people to see the utter blindness that has descended on society in recent decades since the rejection of the Christian order, when true freedom was replaced with licence.

                • AB,

                  Please do not think we are condemning you.. You have been good enough to come onto our blog to comment and to listen to our responses, which I consider you to have done with exquisite courtesy and, I believe, in genuine good faith.

                  It is very encouraging indeed to learn that you agree – to a point at least – with our assessment of the sexualisation of our society, which is, in fact, a direct result of the rejection of God by so many in our society. They want to believe in the politically correct dogmas about life, which involves all sorts of unnatural and unhealthy behaviours and attitudes, because, as G.K. Chesterton, famous English writer and convert to the Catholic religion once said: “When people reject God, it’s not that they believe in nothing; they will believe in anything.”

                  Pray, AB. Ask Our Lady to take you to her Son. You’ll be surprised at the results.

        • Actionbaby

          “We are addressing this issue clearly from different beliefs, I do not believe in the worldwide salvation of man that reportedly happened two thousand years ago.”

          That’s why you have not the understanding of human nature and the wisdom to see that what you propose is a return to the pre-Christian pagan cultures. We have now more or less returned there and the evidence of youth corruption is everywhere to see for those who wish to look objectively.

          You are a product of the times, I’m afraid, lost to all sense of the weakness of human beings and their dependence upon the grace of God.

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