30th November: St Andrew’s Day

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There will be two Traditional Latin Masses (that we know of)  to mark the Feast of Scotland’s patron saint on Monday, 30th November:

There will be a Missa Cantata in Greenock , and another sung Mass in St Andrew’s SSPX chapel in Glasgow.

Father Robert Mann will be offering the Traditional Latin Mass in St Joseph’s, 88 Bow Road, Greenock, PA16 7DY at 7pm

The SSPX Mass will be offered in St Andrew’s, 202 Renfrew Street, G3 6TX,  at 6.30pm

When Christ our Lord to Andrew cried:
“Come, thou, and follow me,”
the fisher left his net beside the Sea of Galilee.
To teach the truth the Master taught,
to tread the path he trod
was all his will and thus he brought
unnumbered souls to God.

When Andrew’s hour had come, and he
was doomed, like Christ to die,
he kissed his cross exultingly,
and this his noble cry:
“O noble cross! O precious wood! 
I long have yearned for thee;
uplift me to my only good
who died on thee for me.”

The faith that Andrew taught once shone
o’er all this kingdom fair;
the cross that Jesus died upon
was honoured everywhere.
But times once changed and Andrew’s name
was for a while forgot;
the cross, though set in kingly crown,
became a sign of shame.

St Andrew now in bliss above,
thy fervent prayers renew
that Scotland yet again may love
the faith, entire and true;
that I the cross allotted me
may bear with patient love! ‘
Twill lift me, as it lifted thee,
to reign with Christ above.

Editor’s Note…

All our bloggers and readers are encouraged to attend one of these Masses, and to pray for the restoration of the traditional Catholic Faith in Scotland.  Since he is also the patron saint of Russia, we might ask for St Andrew’s intercession for the fulfilment of Our Lady’s request that Russia be consecrated to her Immaculate Heart so that the world may, thereafter, enjoy a period of peace. There is absolutely no sign that any of the political strategies are going to bring that about – violence and war are increasing and will continue to do so until the Pope and the Bishops in union with him, as prescribed by Our Lady, offer the requested short prayer of consecration.   St Andrew, pray for us! 

16 responses

  1. As I am unable to attend Mass in Greenock, but will certainly be at St Andrew’s SSPX Chapel on Monday evening.

    I knew Saint Andrew was also Patron Saint of Greece, but was unaware of him also being Patron Saint of Russia. A good opportunity indeed to ask him for his intercession for the fulfilment of the Consecration of Russia to Our lady’s Immaculate Heart, this coming Monday evening.

  2. Happy Feast of St Andrew, everyone!

    I would dearly love to be able to make it to Father Mann’s first Mass in Greenock but I had already promised to take my two nephews, who serve at the SSPX chapel in Glasgow, to the sung Mass there.

    Hopefully, I’ll make it to the next Mass in Greenock, assuming it is to be a regular Mass.

    Again, happy feast day everyone – please let’s pray especially for the conversion of Scotland today, AND for the consecration of Russia, since we share our patron saint with that chosen (to be Heaven’s instrument of peace in the world) land.

    Oh and we can’t let the Feast Day of Scotland’s patron saint go by without some fun – here’s a joke, based on the myth (*****!!!!!!) of the thrifty, through to mean, Scot…

    JOKE…

    .A very popular man dies in Aberdeen and his old widow wishes to tell all his friends at once, so she goes to the Aberdeen Evening Express and says, ‘I’d like tae place an obituary fur ma late husband.’

    The man at the desk says, ‘OK, how much money dae ye have?’

    The old woman replies, ‘£5’ to which the man says, ‘Ye won’t get many words for that but write something and we’ll see if it’s ok.’

    So the old woman writes something and hands it over the counter.

    The man reads ‘Peter Reid, fae Kincorth, deid.’ He feels sad at the abruptness of the statement and encourages the old woman to write a few more things, saying, ‘I think we cud allow 3 or 4 more words fer ye money.’

    The old woman ponders and then adds a few more words and hand the paper over the counter again. The man then reads – ‘Peter Reid, fae Kincorth, deid. Ford Escort for sale.’

    Happy Feast Day to one and all!

  3. Happy Feast everyone!

    I laughed at this joke, although it’s not about mean Scots, just the accent

    A Glasgow woman goes to the dentist and when she settles in the chair, the dentist says: “Comfy”?
    She replies “Govan”!

    • Margaret Mary,

      Great joke. Here’s another “accent” joke. (Or is it more accurate to say “ignorant”!)

      A Scotsman takes a pair of shoes back to the shop complaining that there is only one with laces. The assistant points out that it says clearly on them, “Taiwan”…

  4. I will be going to the SSPX mass, but glad to see Fr Mann offering a mass too.

    Has Fr Mann been assigned to minister at St Josephs, or is he “guest starring” at the invite of the parish priest?

    It is late in the day, but East Coast readers may like to know that there is a sung mass (FSSP) in Edinburgh at 18.15pm, in St Cuthbert’s House Chapel, 6 Belford Park.

    It is good to think that in the central belt of Scotland, from Coast to Coast – and in Glasgow in the middle – Catholics will today be able to access a beautiful sung mass to mark St Andrews day.

    • Gabriel Syme,

      I believe the PP of St Joseph’s in Greenock gave permission for the TLM, so I presume Father Mann is “guest starring” there at the invite of the PP, as you put it. It may be the first of many, however. Let’s hope.

      We had a lovely, peaceful Mass in Glasgow, as you know (saw your saintly self there!) and how I love that rousing hymn to St Andrew which we sang at the end. One of our priests insists he cannot sing, but when I asked him after Mass if it were not worth taking singing lessons just to sing “When Christ Our Lord to Andrew said…” he replied in the affirmative (if only just… “Well… I suppose…”! )

      Anyway, I hope they had a good number in the congregation in Greenock. We will hear in due course, no doubt.

      • Over 200 people at St Joseph’s last night. The Church was almost full. Fr Bollan asked Fr Mann to come to Greenock and say the traditional Mass.

        • Anthony,

          That’s really great, that so many people attended the TLM in Greenock last night. I’m especially pleased because I believe it was Fr Mann’s first Mass in the Diocese of Paisley – and it’s been a battle to get a TLM there, for quite a few years now. Wonderful.

          However, I can’t help wondering where those 200 people attend Mass on Sundays?

          • It was mostly a mix of parishioners (both young and old from parishes all across Inverclyde from Gourock and Port Glasgow. For some it was there first time at the traditional Mass. For other older folks it was a very emotional evening.

            • That’s interesting, about parishioners attending from across the area.

              Those older folk had better take care – being emotional about the Mass without making the effort to restore it by, at the very least, asking for Sunday provision and attending it, won’t cut it at their Judgment. The Mass is right at the heart of the current crisis in the Church.

          • It will take time for TLM to grow in areas like Greenock but there is a demand. Credit must go to the clearly traditionally minded Fr John Bollan, regardless of what we think of NO Mass, he always says Mass reverently, free of any liturgical abuses and offers Solemn Vespers and Benediction regularly. Its Fr Bollan who has opened the door so to speak, but the reality is that people will choose to attend both NO and EF Mass. For most Catholics it clearly won’t become a choice between two liturgies, the NO Mass will not disappear.

            • Oh but the NO Mass WILL disappear. It’s already been changed umpteen times (not even allowing for the fact that, as greater minds than mine have observed, there are as many “new Masses” as there are priests saying it. Each one putting his own “stamp” on it.) And don’t forget the prophecy of Cardinal Ranjith, that it would be gone in a generation.

              Anyway, certainly we give credit to Fr Bollan for his efforts. Thank you for keeping us informed. I did have an email telling me about the 200 from one of our bloggers, so I presumed he would pass on the news here. He’ll be getting his pay deducted, though, we can’t allow such slacking!

              Thanks again.

  5. No problem. The often repeated idea that it is our older generation who must forever carry the blame for letting go of the old Mass and that their salvation is now in doubt due to their compliance with V2 is a suggestion which is regularly put forward. In reality, this claim cannot be justified by any serious Catholic theology, either traditionalist or modernist.

    • Anthony,

      I did not say that the older generation (of which I am a member!) are to blame for “letting go of the old Mass”.

      Most of us went along with the change(s) as we were programmed to accept the Pope’s and Bishops’ authority. The Church at that time was strong, thriving, so we had no real reason to question too deeply, certainly not to “rebel” – although one of my fellow parishioners was immediately on the case and went in search of a TLM and found the SSPX. Took me much much longer. I can be slow at times. Well, you can’t have everything – slim, glamorous, fashionable, witty, blah blah. I definitely was slow on the uptake at that time.

      Now, however, with the state of play, anyone with a reasonable level of intelligence has to look for the root cause and all genuine study leads inexorably to the new Mass with its new theology. It is, as a couple of cardinals said in their letter to Pope Paul VI at the time, “a grave departure from Catholic theology of the Mass, in whole and in part”. Therefore, there is no longer any “I must obey the Pope” excuse. The mantra now is “I must double check everything this pope says and, since we’re losing the game, get right back to the start square on the box – the change in the Mass”.

      I hope that’s clear enough – I didn’t blame them for letting go of the old Mass but I DO blame them for not letting go of the new Mass. Now they are culpable for their continued support of it.

      Having said all of that, I know that there are very well intentioned and good people who continue to attend the NO. I’m not denouncing individuals or judging their souls. Still, the general principle must apply in objective study – get thee to a TLM immediately, if not sooner, in order to know, for certain, that the worship we offer is pleasing to God.

      PS – there can be no “modernist theology” any more than there can be “feminist theology”. There is truth and there is falsehood, and the truth is to be found in authentic Catholic theology.

  6. I’ve just added this report to our website – with a poll asking if Scotland is becoming more traditional – at last…?

    More priests have learned or are learning the TLM, and offering it, although not on Sundays, which is a great pity, and now, it seems, more and more laity are being drawn to it (or back to it.)

    Seems to be all very hopeful. Or am I being optimistic? There IS a difference…

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